Call me Crazy

[dreamaker]

Something in the back of my kind keeps score of thing that goes on in our lives; I think they call it the subconscious.  Kind of a nac I have had my whole life, look at it as a big checker game or puzzle. Simply speaking, when the pieces don’t fit, or pieces don’t belong, it kind of jumps out at me.  Well, anyways, at this point I don’t know who I will vote for, but one of the things that jump out at me is.  Now Trump, did not get or maintain his wealth by doing stupid things, I have no doubt he made mistakes and had losses, but the big picture is he is very healthy. I generally try to avoid all the political bullchit and mudslinging, I in a sense fell it is some form of distraction. I generally don’t subscribe to conspiracy theory, and I know they are controlling groups pulling the strings in some cases, like Bilderburg Group, Skull and Bones and so on. So my point is:the thing that baffles me is, Trump has been saying some incredibly stupid things, that even seems beyond him. So I have to ask myself, is that all possibly by design? You my say, Why would that be?  Hypothetically speaking, is to insure Hillary wins, “That seems like stupid thinking” well if the people vote her in, than the blame is on the voters and not the internal influences. Now if we have another weak one in office and create a monumental failure then steps will have to be taken to stabilize the nation. You figure out the rest!! Sounds like a book Right!! I know it is crazy and cannot ever happen. Must be the heat getting to me!!!!!!

[Danny McMillin]

                                                            CRAZY

[Rams]

OK, you're crazy.

But, we're living in some crazy times so, you fit right in.

[3W-lonerider]

I don't think your crazy at all. iv'e been thinking all along that trunp is acting like he is to insure a Hillary win.
keep in mind the Clintons and trunp have been friends for a long time. at the end of the day there will be mud slinging but in my opinion it's going to be mud pre approved by the opposite side first.

[Rams]

I don't think your crazy at all. iv'e been thinking all along that trunk is acting like he is to insure a Hillary win.
keep in mind the Clintons and trunp have been friends for a long time. at the end of the day there will be mud slinging but in my opinion it's going to be mud pre approved by the opposite side first.

Hey bud, how ya doing?

Not to argue the point but, I don't think you're correct in that assumption.

Trump has way too much ego to be second fiddle to Hillary..........   Just ain't in that man IMHO. 

[Willow]

Granted.

[sandy]

In our country: The inmates are running the asylum.

[dreamaker]

In our country: The inmates are running the asylum.

You hit that nail on the head!!

[The emperor has no clothes]

Granted.

[Bighead]

Well Trump does say some off the wall stuffs, But just think how many Hard working Americans that want what they work for and to not have to give it to the free crap army say the same things day to day.

[Hooter]

In the beginning I liked Trump.  I liked his being up front and the fact he didn't cave in to his parties political machine and their way of doing things was refreshing. I think in the beginning that's why he appealed to people.  He said what was on his mind and wasn't  and still isn't  politically correct. Like i said, It was kind of refreshing up until lately.
   I think he has committed political suicide because he doesn't know when to shut up. People that try to build themselves up by running others down usually come out on the short end of the stick. I think he is there now??? I sure don't like Hillary but I think Trump pushed people her direction just by being the person he is and his way of doing business.
   This man had a chance in the beginning but now I think he has and continues verbally to ruin his chances.

[dreamaker]

Saying some off the wall things is one thing, but the stuff Trump says, for a person that is campaigning, to me is totally bazaar behavior. It is like he is trying to sabotage his own campaign.

All though, correct me if I am wrong, he has not got anyone killed directly, by his decision or non-decisions, then afterwards quit his job.

It's going to be a hard call!!

[Hooter]

I believe that Trump has very seldom lost at much of anything? Sure, made mistakes but probably has always come out on top. I think that "losing" possibility is in his face now as a real threat? I think that reality has driven him to his recent tactics  and it isn't working for him.
   Trump may not have all the answers but he has always surrounded himself with people that have the answers, thus success in business. I think he would do the same in the presidency. I just don't  believe he will get there after his recent jaunt through the "slam" pool.

[Robert]

The elections have often called the greatest show on earth and keep the masses occupied. I don't think its beyond the realm to be suspicious of the elections being rigged. It would seem logical since they can rig the machines that all they need was a regular candidate not someone like Trump who is a real possibility. The voting has to be close I believe so the machines can swing the vote. So I don't think its so crazy to think they could be rigged or a show. I would just find it hard to believe that Trump would do this knowing its a show or rigged. I like to think that Trump in all,regardless of what people have said about him is a goal oriented businessman as demonstrated by his successes looking for the good of this country. If this is the case the payoff for taking a fall would have to be huge and I don't think he would do it anyway. I really believe he does want to make America great again.

Hooter brought up a very good point about surrounding himself with good people and this contrasts so much with what O did. O surrounded himself with tax cheats and corrupt business people. I would think Trump brings an air of fear to those who would be outright thieves like O has on board.

One last point Trump because of his deals and money has seen alot of things and heard alot of things we dont have privy to. This means that some things may sound crazy but maybe they are not coming from his world. He has been very open on alot of issues that the ruling class has not. So maybe he is learning another thing what should be said and what shouldn't. The secrecy of the O admin has been above all others and anything we hear is just publicity not real words, maybe Trump is breaking with this. Perspective gentlemen perspective many very intelligent people were called crazy and later found to be absolutely correct.

[dreamaker]

This is kind of off the wall, but I think it has a relation to the overall result. I have said before, entertainers are professional layers, not a bad thing; it’s their job to convince you that they are someone that they are not. It’s very rare, but some can isolate their own personality from there correctors, but most of them, their own personality spills into the correctors.  So my point here is they are trained professionals.  OK!  To my point, I am not a gung-ho political watch dog, but as well as I occasionally watch the campaigners, I will also from time to time watch public reaction and responses. All thought it is like chewing broken glass to me, I will watch Wendy William’s, The View, The Real and even The Jerry Springer Show. I don’t directly watch what is being said or done, I watch what is happening in the background and how people react to what is happening, these people are showing their personalities openly. WHY does it concern me!!! Because these are voters, these are the people that will vote these people in, when they respond and act like a herd of sheep, it scars the crap out of me.  And I wonder what is in store for our future, just an observation of mine!   Most of the time truth is just under our noses, you have to take a moment and open your eyes and see it.  Again I think it is the HEAT!!!!!!!

[Robert]

This is kind of off the wall, but I think it has a relation to the overall result. I have said before, entertainers are professional layers, not a bad thing; it’s their job to convince you that they are someone that they are not. It’s very rare, but some can isolate their own personality from there correctors, but most of them, their own personality spills into the correctors.  So my point here is they are trained professionals.  OK!  To my point, I am not a gung-ho political watch dog, but as well as I occasionally watch the campaigners, I will also from time to time watch public reaction and responses. All thought it is like chewing broken glass to me, I will watch Wendy William’s, The View, The Real and even The Jerry Springer Show. I don’t directly watch what is being said or done, I watch what is happening in the background and how people react to what is happening, these people are showing their personalities openly. WHY does it concern me!!! Because these are voters, these are the people that will vote these people in, when they respond and act like a herd of sheep, it scars the crap out of me.  And I wonder what is in store for our future, just an observation of mine!   Most of the time truth is just under our noses, you have to take a moment and open your eyes and see it.  Again I think it is the HEAT!!!!!!!

I understand exactly what you are saying but those shows are not the average person and shock shows. To me the best demonstration in who people really are is look who is voting for Hillary. That is to me the scariest. While you are pondering things also let me throw out one more thing. IF Hillary is elected and her health is of real concern at this point and the vice president gets the office then who is this guy and what does he stand for? This seems like a real possibility since Hillary has been proven to have seizures and has a hole in her tongue consistent with certain forms of cancer. I remember the earlier problems Hillary had and remember there was talk of her not surviving but that was quickly quieted down. I have heard others scenarios that could put O in for another term under emergency powers if Hillarys health fails her, but I dont think these are valid.

[dreamaker]

Understand something, I don’t have the answers, I am just throwing things out there.  I am on a more fact finding mission, so I have a good idea what to do in Nov.
 But you have made a good point about the VP and the possibility of the O third tem has defiantly crossed my mind. Like what would it take to do that, I think there was a statement made about Martial Law said briefly.  Sitting in a coffee shop, at about the beginning of O first term, a man made the statement that O would be the last prez we will ever have, and that always stuck in the back of my mind, what he said

[dreamaker]

This is kind of off the wall, but I think it has a relation to the overall result. I have said before, entertainers are professional layers, not a bad thing; it’s their job to convince you that they are someone that they are not. It’s very rare, but some can isolate their own personality from there correctors, but most of them, their own personality spills into the correctors.  So my point here is they are trained professionals.  OK!  To my point, I am not a gung-ho political watch dog, but as well as I occasionally watch the campaigners, I will also from time to time watch public reaction and responses. All thought it is like chewing broken glass to me, I will watch Wendy William’s, The View, The Real and even The Jerry Springer Show. I don’t directly watch what is being said or done, I watch what is happening in the background and how people react to what is happening, these people are showing their personalities openly. WHY does it concern me!!! Because these are voters, these are the people that will vote these people in, when they respond and act like a herd of sheep, it scars the crap out of me.  And I wonder what is in store for our future, just an observation of mine!   Most of the time truth is just under our noses, you have to take a moment and open your eyes and see it.  Again I think it is the HEAT!!!!!!!

I understand exactly what you are saying but those shows are not the average person and shock shows. To me the best demonstration in who people really are is look who is voting for Hillary. That is to me the scariest. While you are pondering things also let me throw out one more thing. IF Hillary is elected and her health is of real concern at this point and the vice president gets the office then who is this guy and what does he stand for? This seems like a real possibility since Hillary has been proven to have seizures and has a hole in her tongue consistent with certain forms of cancer. I remember the earlier problems Hillary had and remember there was talk of her not surviving but that was quickly quieted down. I have heard others scenarios that could put O in for another term under emergency powers if Hillarys health fails her, but I dont think these are valid.

I look at this all as creative thinking, but a thought jumped out at me, of course hypothetical, but what if the Donald/Hillary controversy is a distraction and a prelude to O's third term?   LOL!!

[F-six]

I'm a Dutchman and I come from the Netherlands, so you could say that these are not my elections, so butt out. But having said that, as citizen of the free world, I have great interest in the American election. The outcome of this election will have it's effect on me, on my country, on Europe, on the rest of the world. And I always discussed with great pleasure the American elections with my American family and friends. I like those discussions, in the nineties I worked for more than twelve years in politics on a national level.

And sure, as a Dutchman, I'm on the left side of the political spectrum. I've always cheered for the left and obviously booed the right. But in a sporty way. I had great discussions with Democrats and Republicans alike. Lot of Americans wanted to know how we run things in Holland and I like to know how you do things. If you have a different view on the world and your country, that doesn't mean you can't talk about it and respect the views of each other. Just have a beer and talk about it.

So, I liked democrat presidents and I respected republican presidents. Same goes for the candidates of both sides and their supporters. But man, Trump scares the hell out of me. I've never ever said that of any presidential candidate in history. He is so not qualified for being president of the most powerful country in the world, it is really unbelievable. If he is deliberately trying to fail the election, he could not have done a better job. Every mistake he could make, he did make. And I don't see any improvements as of now, on the contrary, it's getting worse every day. Does he really want to be president? Why is he saying 'oh well, if I don't get elected, I'm gonna have a nice long vacation'? That's not the remark of someone who really cares. You have to take that into consideration imagining him as your president. I wish you all a lot of wisdom the coming three months..

 

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm a Dutchman and I come from the Netherlands, so you could say that these are not my elections, so butt out. But having said that, as citizen of the free world, I have great interest in the American election. The outcome of this election will have it's effect on me, on my country, on Europe, on the rest of the world. And I always discussed with great pleasure the American elections with my American family and friends. I like those discussions, in the nineties I worked for more than twelve years in politics on a national level.

And sure, as a Dutchman, I'm on the left side of the political spectrum. I've always cheered for the left and obviously booed the right. But in a sporty way. I had great discussions with Democrats and Republicans alike. Lot of Americans wanted to know how we run things in Holland and I like to know how you do things. If you have a different view on the world and your country, that doesn't mean you can't talk about it and respect the views of each other. Just have a beer and talk about it.

So, I liked democrat presidents and I respected republican presidents. Same goes for the candidates of both sides and their supporters. But man, Trump scares the hell out of me. I've never ever said that of any presidential candidate in history. He is so not qualified for being president of the most powerful country in the world, it is really unbelievable. If he is deliberately trying to fail the election, he could not have done a better job. Every mistake he could make, he did make. And I don't see any improvements as of now, on the contrary, it's getting worse every day. Does he really want to be president? Why is he saying 'oh well, if I don't get elected, I'm gonna have a nice long vacation'? That's not the remark of someone who really cares. You have to take that into consideration imagining him as your president. I wish you all a lot of wisdom the coming three months..

 

I for one am glad you are interested in our society and our elections. It is interesting to me how other countries view us.

[F-six]

...

I for one am glad you are interested in our society and our elections. It is interesting to me how other countries view us.

Thank you! 

[Gavin_Sons]

I'm a Dutchman and I come from the Netherlands, so you could say that these are not my elections, so butt out. But having said that, as citizen of the free world, I have great interest in the American election. The outcome of this election will have it's effect on me, on my country, on Europe, on the rest of the world. And I always discussed with great pleasure the American elections with my American family and friends. I like those discussions, in the nineties I worked for more than twelve years in politics on a national level.

And sure, as a Dutchman, I'm on the left side of the political spectrum. I've always cheered for the left and obviously booed the right. But in a sporty way. I had great discussions with Democrats and Republicans alike. Lot of Americans wanted to know how we run things in Holland and I like to know how you do things. If you have a different view on the world and your country, that doesn't mean you can't talk about it and respect the views of each other. Just have a beer and talk about it.

So, I liked democrat presidents and I respected republican presidents. Same goes for the candidates of both sides and their supporters. But man, Trump scares the hell out of me. I've never ever said that of any presidential candidate in history. He is so not qualified for being president of the most powerful country in the world, it is really unbelievable. If he is deliberately trying to fail the election, he could not have done a better job. Every mistake he could make, he did make. And I don't see any improvements as of now, on the contrary, it's getting worse every day. Does he really want to be president? Why is he saying 'oh well, if I don't get elected, I'm gonna have a nice long vacation'? That's not the remark of someone who really cares. You have to take that into consideration imagining him as your president. I wish you all a lot of wisdom the coming three months..

 

Why does Hillary not scare you? Why is she so qualified to lead a country? Has she not proven to be very incompetent? Donald is an unknown, but he surrounds himself with people that have the know how. Hillary surrounds herself with people that want to crush the 2nd amendment. What will be after she gets all of our guns? your freedom of speech? Once she destroys one amendment who is to say she won't destroy them all. Then we are not free anymore. Then it will be too late for the people to rise up and take over. Like someone has said before, Hillary could murder puppies on live TV then turn around and say she didn't do it

[TallRider]

Well Hillary released tax return today. Media excited how much she contributed to charity.  Put her in 30% tax bracket.  Contributed 96% to herself and Bill. Go Hillary. I love it. Wonder what  percentage of donations go actually to charity. Thought I heard it was less than half due to high overhead. Corruption is not cheap

[Robert]

So, I liked democrat presidents and I respected republican presidents. Same goes for the candidates of both sides and their supporters. But man, Trump scares the hell out of me. I've never ever said that of any presidential candidate in history. He is so not qualified for being president of the most powerful country in the world, it is really unbelievable. If he is deliberately trying to fail the election, he could not have done a better job. Every mistake he could make, he did make. And I don't see any improvements as of now, on the contrary, it's getting worse every day. Does he really want to be president? Why is he saying 'oh well, if I don't get elected, I'm gonna have a nice long vacation'? That's not the remark of someone who really cares. You have to take that into consideration imagining him as your president. I wish you all a lot of wisdom the coming three months..

 

Interesting to hear your opinion and thanks for the concern. What you hear from most here is the same concern also. But I would be interested to hear your opinions on Hillary. Not being from the US its kind of interesting to hear just exactly what those looking in would say. Also can you write a bit of what you have heard and your feelings of Hillary's email problem and what the FBI said in their statements.

[dreamaker]

I'm a Dutchman and I come from the Netherlands, so you could say that these are not my elections, so butt out. But having said that, as citizen of the free world, I have great interest in the American election. The outcome of this election will have it's effect on me, on my country, on Europe, on the rest of the world. And I always discussed with great pleasure the American elections with my American family and friends. I like those discussions, in the nineties I worked for more than twelve years in politics on a national level.

And sure, as a Dutchman, I'm on the left side of the political spectrum. I've always cheered for the left and obviously booed the right. But in a sporty way. I had great discussions with Democrats and Republicans alike. Lot of Americans wanted to know how we run things in Holland and I like to know how you do things. If you have a different view on the world and your country, that doesn't mean you can't talk about it and respect the views of each other. Just have a beer and talk about it.

So, I liked democrat presidents and I respected republican presidents. Same goes for the candidates of both sides and their supporters. But man, Trump scares the hell out of me. I've never ever said that of any presidential candidate in history. He is so not qualified for being president of the most powerful country in the world, it is really unbelievable. If he is deliberately trying to fail the election, he could not have done a better job. Every mistake he could make, he did make. And I don't see any improvements as of now, on the contrary, it's getting worse every day. Does he really want to be president? Why is he saying 'oh well, if I don't get elected, I'm gonna have a nice long vacation'? That's not the remark of someone who really cares. You have to take that into consideration imagining him as your president. I wish you all a lot of wisdom the coming three months..

 

Why does Hillary not scare you? Why is she so qualified to lead a country? Has she not proven to be very incompetent? Donald is an unknown, but he surrounds himself with people that have the know how. Hillary surrounds herself with people that want to crush the 2nd amendment. What will be after she gets all of our guns? your freedom of speech? Once she destroys one amendment who is to say she won't destroy them all. Then we are not free anymore. Then it will be too late for the people to rise up and take over. Like someone has said before, Hillary could murder puppies on live TV then turn around and say she didn't do it

We are on the same side, and I am not trying to be disrespectful, but I want to say what planet are you from.  Firsts you speak of GOING to lose freedom of speech, well my Politically Correctness, trumps you Freedom of Speech. Gun control issue, guns get blamed for everything and the people that pulls the trigger seem to always end up the victims.  People pull the triggers; the triggers don’t pull the people. Now a days I don’t know what to think, maybe Hillary is slated for failure, they need another one in office with no balls. It's only my opinion, But over all, think back about 10years ago, how things were in terms of what you use to have and how things were done, and look at them today, and compare.

[Moonshot_1]

I'm a Dutchman and I come from the Netherlands, so you could say that these are not my elections, so butt out. But having said that, as citizen of the free world, I have great interest in the American election. The outcome of this election will have it's effect on me, on my country, on Europe, on the rest of the world. And I always discussed with great pleasure the American elections with my American family and friends. I like those discussions, in the nineties I worked for more than twelve years in politics on a national level.

And sure, as a Dutchman, I'm on the left side of the political spectrum. I've always cheered for the left and obviously booed the right. But in a sporty way. I had great discussions with Democrats and Republicans alike. Lot of Americans wanted to know how we run things in Holland and I like to know how you do things. If you have a different view on the world and your country, that doesn't mean you can't talk about it and respect the views of each other. Just have a beer and talk about it.

So, I liked democrat presidents and I respected republican presidents. Same goes for the candidates of both sides and their supporters. But man, Trump scares the hell out of me. I've never ever said that of any presidential candidate in history. He is so not qualified for being president of the most powerful country in the world, it is really unbelievable. If he is deliberately trying to fail the election, he could not have done a better job. Every mistake he could make, he did make. And I don't see any improvements as of now, on the contrary, it's getting worse every day. Does he really want to be president? Why is he saying 'oh well, if I don't get elected, I'm gonna have a nice long vacation'? That's not the remark of someone who really cares. You have to take that into consideration imagining him as your president. I wish you all a lot of wisdom the coming three months..

 

Your comments on Mr. Trump seem to be a reflection of the media's spin and perspective of the man.
I listen to the man and I don't see the same thing. There is a noticeable bias in the media's projection of Mr. Trump and his campaign to the public.
The man is out and about nearly every day. Talking to reporters, having large rallies, taking questions, being constantly interviewed.
He is rarely scripted.

Mrs. Clinton is heavily scripted. Rarely has press conferences and are a very controlled environment when she does. The media does not hold her to the same standard as, well, anyone on the right side of the political spectrum. She has gotten numerous passes on a host of scandals that would have had the establishment media skin most other political folks alive.

We elect a President, not a king. Our government is a team sport. I have far greater confidence in Mr. Trump's executive experience than Mrs. Clinton's political experience eclipsed by never ending scandals and extraordinary corruption.

But no matter, I have great faith in my fellow citizens. Because we are America.

[therapist]

This is not "media bias or spin",,,these are the man's own conflicting words.
I'm not a Hillary fan, but I could never vote for this narcissist/chameleon.

Please watch the entire ad. Yes, I know the Democrats put this together,
but he said these things!

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1206887309404321/

[Gavin_Sons]

This is not "media bias or spin",,,these are the man's own conflicting words.
I'm not a Hillary fan, but I could never vote for this narcissist/chameleon.

Please watch the entire ad. Yes, I know the Democrats put this together,
but he said these things!

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1206887309404321/

But what difference does it make? Yeah Hillary said that. Do you mean with a cloth? Yep, also said that.  If Satan had a child, it's name would be Hillary Clinton. She just can't be trusted, anyone who let soldiers die and didnt even attempt to help should be dragged out into the street by her hair and hung from the tallest tree with a short rope. I like how liberals post this stuff to divert your attention away from the canidate that has blood on her hands. Oh, I didn't watch either, wouldn't let me, but I did try to find it elsewhere and failed. Must be some democrap propaganda.

[Moonshot_1]

This is not "media bias or spin",,,these are the man's own conflicting words.
I'm not a Hillary fan, but I could never vote for this narcissist/chameleon.

Please watch the entire ad. Yes, I know the Democrats put this together,
but he said these things!

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1206887309404321/

Yup, watched the ad and this is exactly what I am talking about.

Conflicting words which are derived from snippets of video spliced together completely out of context from each other. I don't know what the entire context or conversations were about from each snippet.
Some were from years and years ago.

Example with Japan and nukes. Should we support a Nuclear power Japan? No.

If N. Korea is going to threaten Japan with Nuclear attacks should Japan be able to defend itself likewise? Yes! They are a sovereign nation. And currently the US is Japan's facilitator in this nuclear policy conversation.

Even I, involved in two such separate conversations would respond the same way.

I know he has changed opinions and has at time turned completely around on issues from the past.
But he is a negotiator. He comes out with, at times, ridiculous positions so he can negotiate from those points.
This means he will have conflicting opinions at times. Such is the art of negotiating.

It is the result that counts. And on the scorecard he's done fairly well. And has done it in full view of everyone.  The good and the bad.

I'm not claiming Mr. Trump is a perfect candidate or perfect person. No one is. But the obvious media bias is amplifying the imperfections by factors of magnitude that are stunningly ridiculous.

[The emperor has no clothes]

This is not "media bias or spin",,,these are the man's own conflicting words.
I'm not a Hillary fan, but I could never vote for this narcissist/chameleon.

Please watch the entire ad. Yes, I know the Democrats put this together,
but he said these things!

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1206887309404321/

Yup, watched the ad and this is exactly what I am talking about.

Conflicting words which are derived from snippets of video spliced together completely out of context from each other. I don't know what the entire context or conversations were about from each snippet.
Some were from years and years ago.

Example with Japan and nukes. Should we support a Nuclear power Japan? No.

If N. Korea is going to threaten Japan with Nuclear attacks should Japan be able to defend itself likewise? Yes! They are a sovereign nation. And currently the US is Japan's facilitator in this nuclear policy conversation.

Even I, involved in two such separate conversations would respond the same way.

I know he has changed opinions and has at time turned completely around on issues from the past.
But he is a negotiator. He comes out with, at times, ridiculous positions so he can negotiate from those points.
This means he will have conflicting opinions at times. Such is the art of negotiating.

It is the result that counts. And on the scorecard he's done fairly well. And has done it in full view of everyone.  The good and the bad.

I'm not claiming Mr. Trump is a perfect candidate or perfect person. No one is. But the obvious media bias is amplifying the imperfections by factors of magnitude that are stunningly ridiculous.

Good negotiators don't have conflicting positions, they have good positions to negotiate from.

[F-six]

Wow, a lot of questions, let's see if I can answer them properly. First of all you need to know that normally I never discuss three subjects with Americans:
1. religion
2. guns
3. the justice system.
Honestly, we're from different planets, as far as these subjects go. But I think I have to say something about guns, since Gavin asks about Hillary who supposedly would go after your guns by crushing the 2nd amendment. I've never heard her say that. Nobody ever suggested that. And even if she wanted to, she can't. Article V in the Constitution says that for an amendment to be proposed or repealed, it requires two/thirds of both federal legislative bodies — House and Senate — to vote in the affirmative (two/thirds in the House, two/thirds in the Senate). It also requires two/thirds of the state legislatures of the 50 states to vote in the affirmative. So it is practically impossible to alter the 2nd amendment.

Hillary Clinton is not my dream candidate, I don't like her that much. But on the other hand, I really don't buy any of these conspiracy theories that are going around these days (neither theories concerning Trump by the way). I know what you can do with words, with sound and video. Is she competent? Well, if you work thirty years in public service and all that time you are under a magnifier glass, you must have some qualities. You've probably made some mistakes too. But she is a politician, she eats, drinks and sleeps politics and has political blood in her veins. And that is a good thing, because she needs to act on the stage of world politics. She has a steady hand and doesn't panic soon, look at what's been thrown to her the last months. She doesn't back down and is fairly consequent in what she is saying.  
Robert asked how I feel about the email problem. Frankly I don't care much about that. Turned out that a couple of ministers in my country also used their own email accounts, because they work better than the system of the government. It was wrong, but understandable. I work at the Dutch prosecution now and when I work at home I email my stuff to my own email address because then I can use my own computer, which is a lot better. I know, it's wrong.. sigh..
And before anybody asks what I think of the tragic events at Benghazi, I don't like it that her words are twisted in a way that it seems that she didn't care. This is the whole quote: "Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night and decided they'd go kill some Americans?! What difference, at this point, does it make?! It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator."
So, I still don't like her that much. To me, maybe she is the same as the old Bush, a capable guy but you don't get all excited about.

Then you have mr Trump. No, I'm not that much influenced by the media's spin, as Moonshot suggested. No need to. I see him and I hear him, it is all on tape. And as you say so yourself, he is rarely scripted. So you hear one day this and the other day it turns out its something else. For the most part he is accusing all kind of people of being stupid, dumb, being a traitor, being ugly, but you seldom hear him about policies. What does he want for you? Have you seen his 'economic' plan and have you figured out how you will benefit from it? Don't order that new motorcycle just yet!  
A pattern is that he causes a stir about something and the next day he says 'nah, I was being sarcastic' or 'it was a joke'. And sorry, but you don't joke about nuclear weapons, the Russians and North Korea in politics. And in politics you don't pi$$es everybody off, even in your own party, if you intend to work there for the next four years. That's not how you accomplish anything. And he is getting more outrageous by the day. Where will this end?

Ok, it's nearly 3 in the morning overhere. You may not agree with what I said, but I did my best to explain how I see things. Cheers!    

 

[Gavin_Sons]

Can you even vote in the USA?

[baldo]

Can you even vote in the USA?

3

What does that have to do with anything? As a member of this group, he has the same rights as anyone else here to voice his thoughts and opinions. He's not trying to change anyones' mind, they are his thoughts.

Personally, i couldn't agree more with just about every word. And yes, I CAN VOTE in the USA.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Can you even vote in the USA?

3

What does that have to do with anything? As a member of this group, he has the same rights as anyone else here to voice his thoughts and opinions. He's not trying to change anyones' mind, they are his thoughts.

Personally, i couldn't agree more with just about every word. And yes, I CAN VOTE in the USA.

You know I've got to say, I agree with the Dutchman in many ways. AND I DO VOTE.


I am reticent to bad mouth the Donald any more than I already have. But the Republicans have to come to grips with they lost the minute that guy was nominated. And I take no glee in that. This would have been the first election since Reagan that I would have voted "R". But there ain't no way in hell my conscience can allow that. Just about anybody else and they could have beat her. And you guys let that guy do this to you and put you in this position.
Yes the man from the Netherlands can't vote in our elections, but he sure seems to have a pretty good grasp of what's going on over here.

[F-six]

Can you even vote in the USA?

No.

[Robert]

He voiced his perspective which I thank him for, not to mention it comes with some thought being in a position of government and having to face some of the same challenges imposed by a governmental job.

I agree with what he said about her statement on Benghazi, but the problem was the admin first blamed it on a movie and then on an uprising. This could have  made a difference in the responses to a situation that may have not be assessed properly at the time. The report said we could not have responded quickly enough which I find hard to believe since we do have air bases close by and even if we sent planes that have ground support it could have change everything. If we had judged the situation correctly and listed to the intel,  I still believe Benghazi could have been prevented and lives would not have been lost.

  Now is the problem with Hillary not caring and doing a sloppy job, or that she is incompetent, is that it cost people their lives. Were decsions partly influenced by the admin's perspective and bias towards good relations with the Muslim Brotherhood. If it was her following this bias or a sloppy job like the email server then is it a pattern of incompetence that follows her? These facts coupled with the many other scandals it paints a very bad pic regardless of the truth of all the situations. Which we will never hear since this admin is closed the doors to transparency and honesty and blames everyone and everything else when there is a bad outcome. Where there's smoke there is fire and we never hear of the amount or severity of claims against anyone else who did not get prosecuted or removed from a position. These multiple and many situations silently speak volumes on the character and nature of not only Hillary but Bill as well especially when he lied and said "I did not have relations with that woman". If we have strong competent people in their proper positions they dont make personal waves but can make waves alerting of potential risks and even come to the point of sacrificing their own jobs to administering the proper response to situations. Not in constantly having their personal lives and mistakes be the center point in positions of discretion and decorum especially when peoples lives may count on them. I would hate to have a general in the field facing as many bad decisions and personal attacks trying to do his job. This is essentially what we have in Hillary. Self created situations that left your own personal integrity and those decisions open to question and ridicule which allowed anyone to question the decision making and direction you were going, that to me spells incompetence on the highest level and a person who is not a team player.

As a final note a president creates controversy in the job but do we really want someone who creates and cannot handle personal controversy in a position of potential controversy that its their job to settle and unite behind ideas and goals? You cannot go forward by handling personal situations in bad ways, how much more the direction and unity of a nation?

[Gavin_Sons]

Can you even vote in the USA?

3

What does that have to do with anything? As a member of this group, he has the same rights as anyone else here to voice his thoughts and opinions. He's not trying to change anyones' mind, they are his thoughts.

Personally, i couldn't agree more with just about every word. And yes, I CAN VOTE in the USA.

He does have a good understanding of out politics.  Sounds like a pretty bright guy, except for the democrat part. 
But I just have an issue with anyone thats not a citizen mouthing our politics and telling us what is good for us when they dont even live here.

[TallRider]

The people on the Democratic  side who seem to think the constitution can't  be changed don't  seem to understand the roll the Supreme Court  plays in this today and what the progressives are doing to the laws and society in general today in very Suttle  increments.  Justice Robert's rewrote the health care law to comply. It was not the courts authority to do so but no one challenges theses Suttle breaches of the law.  The court requires constitutionally bound judges to function in the proper context of the written word. Obama as other presidents hand down executive orders and in many Suttle ways laws are manipulated to some other meaning. It's funNY a pregnant woman can be killed by someone and charged with a double murder but if they want an abortion the doctor and patient can decide even if removed from womb the child could possibly live can be aborted with no consequence.  The gun laws can get manipulated as any other law buy judges with the mindset to distort the rullings. This country was founded on Judah Christian laws and constitution follows these teachings. Giving individuals the right to choose. The country, courts,cities, schools and states  all ran with the Christian meaning present in these  entities since begin. Now all of a sudden are being stripped from every aspect of government and public life. As a conservative I believe in the Constitution as written. The Bible and the constitution are two of mankind's greatest writings for a society to exist under.  You dont need to believe in a higher power at least acknowledge if mankind followed these basic laws it does makes society a much better environment for people to co exist. Those who are Democrats need to look at their party today and decide am I a progressive ? If so I guess you are with them and Hillary. Republicans and conservatives (not necessarily the same) choose a candidate who they feel is a constitutional conservative for the most part. That is why there is always so much conflict in the Republican party and never seems to have a unified front. We are fighting to get our country back on the constitutional track as conservatives. Dem'so seem not to care were the country is going . For me I have only one choice may not be perfect but is not a politician and will hopefully make a helpful change. This government was designed to give average citizens the opertunity to run for office. The political class and underlying power brokers have taken over this country. For what it's worth that's my observation on the subject.

[dreamaker]

I would like to bring a point up, after observing people replies.  I think maybe we should take in to account persons geographical locations when it comes to opinions and replies.  I feel that has an influence on us, due to different regions have different lifestyles, values, needs and perspectives.  We look at things differently. For example: I live about 10 houses from one of the great lakes, so it may be difficult for me to understand droughts in the west, so my perspective would be entirely different than someone from the west. I don’t fully understand their problem because I have not experienced it, so I may be a bit judgmental.  I don’t know!  But I think that is a factor. Also to our foreign neighbors, I enjoy their honest observations and I think you are health.  Canada is just a short jaunt across the water from me,  I get about 5 Canadian TV stations, and I from time to time I watch their News, and when it comes to the news in the USA, they say it like it is and like it happened. They don’t sugar coat and distort the facts. Far as our off shore neighbors input, I like it.  Just my dollar two eighty!

[pais]

    The people on the Democratic  side who seem to think the constitution can't  be changed don't  seem to understand the roll the Supreme Court  plays in this today and what the progressives are doing to the laws and society in general today in very Suttle  increments.  Justice Robert's rewrote the health care law to comply. It was not the courts authority to do so but no one challenges theses Suttle breaches of the law.  The court requires constitutionally bound judges to function in the proper context of the written word. Obama as other presidents hand down executive orders and in many Suttle ways laws are manipulated to some other meaning. It's funNY a pregnant woman can be killed by someone and charged with a double murder but if they want an abortion the doctor and patient can decide even if removed from womb the child could possibly live can be aborted with no consequence.  The gun laws can get manipulated as any other law buy judges with the mindset to distort the rullings. This country was founded on Judah Christian laws and constitution follows these teachings. Giving individuals the right to choose. The country, courts,cities, schools and states  all ran with the Christian meaning present in these  entities since begin. Now all of a sudden are being stripped from every aspect of government and public life. As a conservative I believe in the Constitution as written. The Bible and the constitution are two of mankind's greatest writings for a society to exist under.  You dont need to believe in a higher power at least acknowledge if mankind followed these basic laws it does makes society a much better environment for people to co exist. Those who are Democrats need to look at their party today and decide am I a progressive ? If so I guess you are with them and Hillary. Republicans and conservatives (not necessarily the same) choose a candidate who they feel is a constitutional conservative for the most part. That is why there is always so much conflict in the Republican party and never seems to have a unified front. We are fighting to get our country back on the constitutional track as conservatives. Dem'so seem not to care were the country is going . For me I have only one choice may not be perfect but is not a politician and will hopefully make a helpful change. This government was designed to give average citizens the opertunity to run for office. The political class and underlying power brokers have taken over this country. For what it's worth that's my observation on the subject.

    Well put TallRider. If I'm in Fla. or you are in Oh. I'm buying the 1st one. Whatever your preference.
    The Democratic nominate is corrupt, a liar, unethical. Her opinions on gun control concern me greatly. Her desire for the presidency does not have this great country at heart! The wagon is getting overloaded(with people able to work but, choose not to) and we don't have enough horses(tax payers) to pull it. The ideology of "We are ready for a woman president" is ignorant beyond belief. Regardless of who or what that person represents? Reflective of the dumbing of society!
     Status quo-gov't will no longer work. Everybody is gonna feel a pinch in order to get this country back on track. Republicans and Democrats in Washington are all one. Their is no difference between the two. They have not had the best interest of the masses at heart for a loooong time. People are fed up. What we are about to see come November will be shocking, regardless of who wins the election!

    Dreamaker,
    To answer your original question. I don't think you are crazy nor do I think you  are correct. Though I work with a man that has told me the same thing that you are thinking. So, you are not alone by a long shot.
    With that being said, this election will be surprising from the stand point that outside the primaries. In which Trump rolled to victory. People are mum on the subject for the most part. I think he has a HUGE following.
     Sad to say I think voter fraud will be the deciding factor in this election. As I said above Dems and Repubs are on the same team and neither will allow Trump to succeed.