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« on: October 01, 2016, 08:20:01 AM »

I cannot believe Trump is going after Bill Clinton on the issue of women. I had the privilege or the misfortune of observing (along with many other Arkansans) Bubba's sexual proclivities beginning with his days as a law professor.

Believe me when I tell you that Bubba did not discriminate against or abuse women in any way. Fat, skinny, different race / ethnicity, young, old, beautiful, ugly, rich, or poor - Bubba loved them all & made them feel like queen for a day. His openly reputed most skillful abilities in performing certain sexual acts were legendary and had women standing in line. It was oft repeated, "If it moved, he...".

Clinton's conduct is in stark contrast to Mr. Trump who openly ranks women numerically, calls them "pigs", " fat", "ugly", "disgusting" and "flat chested" to their face and publically on national media. He further falsely accuses them of making porn movies even though having personally appeared in porn movies himself and proudly having his wife's porn pictures all over thi internet. Further, during a very public divorce from his first wife, he notoriously stated that her breasts didn't feel as good (after implant surgery) as the breasts of his then mistress and subsequent wife, Marla Maples. On top of all this, he proposes he's wife, a former Eastern European men's escort and pornographic model to be First Lady of the United States of America.

Are either of these factual and objective scenarios something to be proud of?

Does " The pot calling the kettle black" come to mind?

Can anyone state what this has to do with the programs and policies either presidential candidate proposes to follow as POTUS?

Has any of your wives had nice things to say about your girlfriends after you've been caught playing on the other side of the fence? Assuming she didn't divorce you the first time, has she got more & more pi~~ed every time she later caught you?

You couldn't make this stuff up even for a television soap opera.

Bottom line is that I think Trump will badly hurt his campaign if he pursues this line of attack 
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2016, 08:30:29 AM »

It sure doesn't seem like a winning strategy to me.
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2016, 08:46:50 AM »

The issue isn't that Bill is a slut.

The issue is that Hillary participated in destroying any of his victims that dared to speak up.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2016, 08:52:26 AM »

The issue isn't that Bill is a slut.

The issue is that Hillary participated in destroying any of his victims that dared to speak up.

I would say if he can limit it to those parameters it might work with the electorate. He doesn't appear able to do that or want to do that.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2016, 10:55:45 AM »

I cannot believe Trump is going after Bill Clinton on the issue of women. I had the privilege or the misfortune of observing (along with many other Arkansans) Bubba's sexual proclivities beginning with his days as a law professor.

Believe me when I tell you that Bubba did not discriminate against or abuse women in any way. Fat, skinny, different race / ethnicity, young, old, beautiful, ugly, rich, or poor - Bubba loved them all & made them feel like queen for a day. His openly reputed most skillful abilities in performing certain sexual acts were legendary and had women standing in line. It was oft repeated, "If it moved, he...".

Clinton's conduct is in stark contrast to Mr. Trump who openly ranks women numerically, calls them "pigs", " fat", "ugly", "disgusting" and "flat chested" to their face and publically on national media. He further falsely accuses them of making porn movies even though having personally appeared in porn movies himself and proudly having his wife's porn pictures all over thi internet. Further, during a very public divorce from his first wife, he notoriously stated that her breasts didn't feel as good (after implant surgery) as the breasts of his then mistress and subsequent wife, Marla Maples. On top of all this, he proposes he's wife, a former Eastern European men's escort and pornographic model to be First Lady of the United States of America.

Are either of these factual and objective scenarios something to be proud of?

Does " The pot calling the kettle black" come to mind?

Can anyone state what this has to do with the programs and policies either presidential candidate proposes to follow as POTUS?

Has any of your wives had nice things to say about your girlfriends after you've been caught playing on the other side of the fence? Assuming she didn't divorce you the first time, has she got more & more pi~~ed every time she later caught you?

You couldn't make this stuff up even for a television soap opera.

Bottom line is that I think Trump will badly hurt his campaign if he pursues this line of attack 


I had a meeting with several decorators this week, all women, and the topic drifted into politics. Three of the five are staunch republicans, the others independent. Every one of them was absolutely horrified at how disgusting Trump is. And every one of them is voting HC. I think he's in big trouble.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2016, 01:41:13 PM »

I cannot believe Trump is going after Bill Clinton on the issue of women. I had the privilege or the misfortune of observing (along with many other Arkansans) Bubba's sexual proclivities beginning with his days as a law professor.

Believe me when I tell you that Bubba did not discriminate against or abuse women in any way. Fat, skinny, different race / ethnicity, young, old, beautiful, ugly, rich, or poor - Bubba loved them all & made them feel like queen for a day. His openly reputed most skillful abilities in performing certain sexual acts were legendary and had women standing in line. It was oft repeated, "If it moved, he...".

 


I am sure Juanita Broaddrick felt very differently after being raped.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2016, 02:10:29 PM »

Where is his campaign manager during this. I used to think he would surround himself with intelligent people if he won. He can't do that trying to win.

Someone explain to me in dumb ass terms what Trump would gain out of this type of issue?  I get it that  Bill would be involved if she wins, and he is as big a liar as her, but both have skated through it all unscathed.

I think he is starting to step in it more and more all the time!
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2016, 02:26:30 PM »

Like Bubba thinking with his johnson, Trump thinks with his ego. Neither is intelligent or a winning strategy. The latter is unable to apologize or admit anyone is smarter than him, or empower them by consulting with them and following the advice.  Whenever he goes "off message" and "wings" it, he says incrredibly stupid things coming from his ego that the Hildebeast then uses in her campaign ads.  We are in trouble because the Hildebeast will win if Trump continues as he has - then when she populates the SCOTUS with her "girls" (probably - but the gender doesn't matter) - we are SUNK.
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2016, 02:29:46 PM »

Where is his campaign manager during this. I used to think he would surround himself with intelligent people if he won. He can't do that trying to win.

Someone explain to me in dumb ass terms what Trump would gain out of this type of issue?  I get it that  he would be involved if she wins and he is as big a liar as her, but both have skated through it all unscathed.

Sure, throughout this campaign one of Hillary's themes is that Mr. Trump has a history of abusing and treating women like 2nd class citizens. The attempt is to sour him in the eyes of women so they don't vote for him.

Trump is attempting to seize the theme and turn it on Hillary by pointing out the stories and reports on Hillary's treatment of the women her husband, the former President Clinton, had affairs with and reportedly had his way with. Destroying their reputations and the like.
The point being that Mrs. Clinton doesn't really care about abused women and would go after the women instead of holding Mr. Clinton accountable herself.

I think Trump will stoke this fire for a few more days then let surrogates finish it up.
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2016, 02:51:31 PM »

Where is his campaign manager during this. I used to think he would surround himself with intelligent people if he won. He can't do that trying to win.

Someone explain to me in dumb ass terms what Trump would gain out of this type of issue?  I get it that  he would be involved if she wins and he is as big a liar as her, but both have skated through it all unscathed.

Sure, throughout this campaign one of Hillary's themes is that Mr. Trump has a history of abusing and treating women like 2nd class citizens. The attempt is to sour him in the eyes of women so they don't vote for him.

Trump is attempting to seize the theme and turn it on Hillary by pointing out the stories and reports on Hillary's treatment of the women her husband, the former President Clinton, had affairs with and reportedly had his way with. Destroying their reputations and the like.
The point being that Mrs. Clinton doesn't really care about abused women and would go after the women instead of holding Mr. Clinton accountable herself.

I think Trump will stoke this fire for a few more days then let surrogates finish it up.
So his strategy to victory is to piss off all Fat people. And then if that isn't enough, piss off all the women who have been cheated on ? Man if this works it's going to go down in the annals of political genius.  ???
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2016, 05:03:49 PM »

I cannot believe Trump is going after Bill Clinton on the issue of women. I had the privilege or the misfortune of observing (along with many other Arkansans) Bubba's sexual proclivities beginning with his days as a law professor.

Believe me when I tell you that Bubba did not discriminate against or abuse women in any way. Fat, skinny, different race / ethnicity, young, old, beautiful, ugly, rich, or poor - Bubba loved them all & made them feel like queen for a day. His openly reputed most skillful abilities in performing certain sexual acts were legendary and had women standing in line. It was oft repeated, "If it moved, he...".

Clinton's conduct is in stark contrast to Mr. Trump who openly ranks women numerically, calls them "pigs", " fat", "ugly", "disgusting" and "flat chested" to their face and publically on national media. He further falsely accuses them of making porn movies even though having personally appeared in porn movies himself and proudly having his wife's porn pictures all over thi internet. Further, during a very public divorce from his first wife, he notoriously stated that her breasts didn't feel as good (after implant surgery) as the breasts of his then mistress and subsequent wife, Marla Maples. On top of all this, he proposes he's wife, a former Eastern European men's escort and pornographic model to be First Lady of the United States of America.

Are either of these factual and objective scenarios something to be proud of?

Does " The pot calling the kettle black" come to mind?

Can anyone state what this has to do with the programs and policies either presidential candidate proposes to follow as POTUS?

Has any of your wives had nice things to say about your girlfriends after you've been caught playing on the other side of the fence? Assuming she didn't divorce you the first time, has she got more & more pi~~ed every time she later caught you?

You couldn't make this stuff up even for a television soap opera.

Bottom line is that I think Trump will badly hurt his campaign if he pursues this line of attack 


You just called his wife a WHORE, a PORN STAR, and him a PORN star too.

Back this up with facts.

You are as bad a Dean insinuating Trump is a Cocaine user.
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2016, 05:08:22 PM »

The issue is not Bill hitting on anything female.

As Serk said, the issue is Hillary attacking and destroying ALL the women who dared say Bill did anything!  And then, claim to be a champion of women.
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2016, 06:05:24 PM »

Where is his campaign manager during this. I used to think he would surround himself with intelligent people if he won. He can't do that trying to win.

Someone explain to me in dumb ass terms what Trump would gain out of this type of issue?  I get it that  he would be involved if she wins and he is as big a liar as her, but both have skated through it all unscathed.

Sure, throughout this campaign one of Hillary's themes is that Mr. Trump has a history of abusing and treating women like 2nd class citizens. The attempt is to sour him in the eyes of women so they don't vote for him.

Trump is attempting to seize the theme and turn it on Hillary by pointing out the stories and reports on Hillary's treatment of the women her husband, the former President Clinton, had affairs with and reportedly had his way with. Destroying their reputations and the like.
The point being that Mrs. Clinton doesn't really care about abused women and would go after the women instead of holding Mr. Clinton accountable herself.

I think Trump will stoke this fire for a few more days then let surrogates finish it up.
So his strategy to victory is to piss off all Fat people. And then if that isn't enough, piss off all the women who have been cheated on ? Man if this works it's going to go down in the annals of political genius.  ???


I don't know what the "piss off all the fat people" is about. Not sure about "piss off all the women who have been cheated on" perspective either.
Not seeing either.

1. The woman stepped forward on her own. Hillary took up her "cause". There is no other evidence except for the woman's accusations that Trump said something mean. Didn't rape her. Didn't slap her. Didn't ruin her reputation.

2. CNN ran a story about her at the time and mentions the "expanding universe" in reference to the woman gaining some weight during her reign as Miss Universe. We are supposed to now accept their condemnation and media's condemnation of Mr. Trump's alleged meanness. Which he denies.

3. We can, in the face of this media farce, still downplay, if not totally ignore the documented conduct and attitude of Mrs. Clinton towards the women her husband played around with while standing by him simply for political gain.

Basically, she was destroying the reputation and lives of her husband's victims. And they were indeed victims. Used them and tossed them.

Let's give her a pass on that but throw a fit over Trump because he possibly said something mean to someone.

Bravo.





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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2016, 06:38:45 PM »

If your wife catches you screwing around, I guarantee she will NOT be pleasant to the other woman.....EVER cooldude
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2016, 06:41:44 PM »

Where is his campaign manager during this. I used to think he would surround himself with intelligent people if he won. He can't do that trying to win.


Same tactics the Democrats used previously with Sandra Fluke.

Take a pretty much non issue and blow it out of proportion. Trump took the bait, hook, line and sinker.
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2016, 07:53:35 PM »

I cannot believe Trump is going after Bill Clinton on the issue of women. I had the privilege or the misfortune of observing (along with many other Arkansans) Bubba's sexual proclivities beginning with his days as a law professor.

Believe me when I tell you that Bubba did not discriminate against or abuse women in any way. Fat, skinny, different race / ethnicity, young, old, beautiful, ugly, rich, or poor - Bubba loved them all & made them feel like queen for a day. His openly reputed most skillful abilities in performing certain sexual acts were legendary and had women standing in line. It was oft repeated, "If it moved, he...".

Clinton's conduct is in stark contrast to Mr. Trump who openly ranks women numerically, calls them "pigs", " fat", "ugly", "disgusting" and "flat chested" to their face and publically on national media. He further falsely accuses them of making porn movies even though having personally appeared in porn movies himself and proudly having his wife's porn pictures all over thi internet. Further, during a very public divorce from his first wife, he notoriously stated that her breasts didn't feel as good (after implant surgery) as the breasts of his then mistress and subsequent wife, Marla Maples. On top of all this, he proposes he's wife, a former Eastern European men's escort and pornographic model to be First Lady of the United States of America.

Are either of these factual and objective scenarios something to be proud of?

Does " The pot calling the kettle black" come to mind?

Can anyone state what this has to do with the programs and policies either presidential candidate proposes to follow as POTUS?

Has any of your wives had nice things to say about your girlfriends after you've been caught playing on the other side of the fence? Assuming she didn't divorce you the first time, has she got more & more pi~~ed every time she later caught you?

You couldn't make this stuff up even for a television soap opera.

Bottom line is that I think Trump will badly hurt his campaign if he pursues this line of attack  



You just called his wife a WHORE, a PORN STAR, and him a PORN star too.

Back this up with facts.

You are as bad a Dean insinuating Trump is a Cocaine user.
This was reported a couple days ago.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-porn-softcore-playboy-movie-a7340376.html
This was reported a couple months ago.
http://nypost.com/2016/08/01/melania-trumps-girl-on-girl-photos-from-racy-shoot-revealed/
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2016, 08:02:11 PM »

I cannot believe Trump is going after Bill Clinton on the issue of women. I had the privilege or the misfortune of observing (along with many other Arkansans) Bubba's sexual proclivities beginning with his days as a law professor.

Believe me when I tell you that Bubba did not discriminate against or abuse women in any way. Fat, skinny, different race / ethnicity, young, old, beautiful, ugly, rich, or poor - Bubba loved them all & made them feel like queen for a day. His openly reputed most skillful abilities in performing certain sexual acts were legendary and had women standing in line. It was oft repeated, "If it moved, he...".

Clinton's conduct is in stark contrast to Mr. Trump who openly ranks women numerically, calls them "pigs", " fat", "ugly", "disgusting" and "flat chested" to their face and publically on national media. He further falsely accuses them of making porn movies even though having personally appeared in porn movies himself and proudly having his wife's porn pictures all over thi internet. Further, during a very public divorce from his first wife, he notoriously stated that her breasts didn't feel as good (after implant surgery) as the breasts of his then mistress and subsequent wife, Marla Maples. On top of all this, he proposes he's wife, a former Eastern European men's escort and pornographic model to be First Lady of the United States of America.

Are either of these factual and objective scenarios something to be proud of?

Does " The pot calling the kettle black" come to mind?

Can anyone state what this has to do with the programs and policies either presidential candidate proposes to follow as POTUS?

Has any of your wives had nice things to say about your girlfriends after you've been caught playing on the other side of the fence? Assuming she didn't divorce you the first time, has she got more & more pi~~ed every time she later caught you?

You couldn't make this stuff up even for a television soap opera.

Bottom line is that I think Trump will badly hurt his campaign if he pursues this line of attack 


I had a meeting with several decorators this week, all women, and the topic drifted into politics. Three of the five are staunch republicans, the others independent. Every one of them was absolutely horrified at how disgusting Trump is. And every one of them is voting HC. I think he's in big trouble.
They lied to you bud there isn't a single republican that would give the beast two craps must less there vote. IMHO.
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2016, 08:04:50 PM »

I cannot believe Trump is going after Bill Clinton on the issue of women. I had the privilege or the misfortune of observing (along with many other Arkansans) Bubba's sexual proclivities beginning with his days as a law professor.

Believe me when I tell you that Bubba did not discriminate against or abuse women in any way. Fat, skinny, different race / ethnicity, young, old, beautiful, ugly, rich, or poor - Bubba loved them all & made them feel like queen for a day. His openly reputed most skillful abilities in performing certain sexual acts were legendary and had women standing in line. It was oft repeated, "If it moved, he...".

Clinton's conduct is in stark contrast to Mr. Trump who openly ranks women numerically, calls them "pigs", " fat", "ugly", "disgusting" and "flat chested" to their face and publically on national media. He further falsely accuses them of making porn movies even though having personally appeared in porn movies himself and proudly having his wife's porn pictures all over thi internet. Further, during a very public divorce from his first wife, he notoriously stated that her breasts didn't feel as good (after implant surgery) as the breasts of his then mistress and subsequent wife, Marla Maples. On top of all this, he proposes he's wife, a former Eastern European men's escort and pornographic model to be First Lady of the United States of America.

Are either of these factual and objective scenarios something to be proud of?

Does " The pot calling the kettle black" come to mind?

Can anyone state what this has to do with the programs and policies either presidential candidate proposes to follow as POTUS?

Has any of your wives had nice things to say about your girlfriends after you've been caught playing on the other side of the fence? Assuming she didn't divorce you the first time, has she got more & more pi~~ed every time she later caught you?

You couldn't make this stuff up even for a television soap opera.

Bottom line is that I think Trump will badly hurt his campaign if he pursues this line of attack 


I had a meeting with several decorators this week, all women, and the topic drifted into politics. Three of the five are staunch republicans, the others independent. Every one of them was absolutely horrified at how disgusting Trump is. And every one of them is voting HC. I think he's in big trouble.
They lied to you bud there isn't a single republican that would give the beast two craps must less there vote. IMHO.
Have you not been reading the news ? Several prominent Republicans are saying they are voting for Clinton.
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2016, 08:12:18 PM »

Yeah and they are not republicans at heart.
Anyone with half a good mind could not pull the lever for that lying Biotch. She lies so much she don't know what the truth is.
And are we talking reading the news that is one sided?
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2016, 08:27:00 PM »

Yeah and they are not republicans at heart.
Anyone with half a good mind could not pull the lever for that lying Biotch. She lies so much she don't know what the truth is.
And are we talking reading the news that is one sided?
Here you go. Looks like some pretty serious life long republicans.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/30/heres-the-growing-list-of-big-name-republicans-supporting-hillary-clinton/
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2016, 08:32:00 PM »

Nope not if they are supporting that piece of human fecal matter.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2016, 08:34:40 PM »

I cannot believe Trump is going after Bill Clinton on the issue of women. I had the privilege or the misfortune of observing (along with many other Arkansans) Bubba's sexual proclivities beginning with his days as a law professor.

Believe me when I tell you that Bubba did not discriminate against or abuse women in any way. Fat, skinny, different race / ethnicity, young, old, beautiful, ugly, rich, or poor - Bubba loved them all & made them feel like queen for a day. His openly reputed most skillful abilities in performing certain sexual acts were legendary and had women standing in line. It was oft repeated, "If it moved, he...".

Clinton's conduct is in stark contrast to Mr. Trump who openly ranks women numerically, calls them "pigs", " fat", "ugly", "disgusting" and "flat chested" to their face and publically on national media. He further falsely accuses them of making porn movies even though having personally appeared in porn movies himself and proudly having his wife's porn pictures all over thi internet. Further, during a very public divorce from his first wife, he notoriously stated that her breasts didn't feel as good (after implant surgery) as the breasts of his then mistress and subsequent wife, Marla Maples. On top of all this, he proposes he's wife, a former Eastern European men's escort and pornographic model to be First Lady of the United States of America.

Are either of these factual and objective scenarios something to be proud of?

Does " The pot calling the kettle black" come to mind?

Can anyone state what this has to do with the programs and policies either presidential candidate proposes to follow as POTUS?

Has any of your wives had nice things to say about your girlfriends after you've been caught playing on the other side of the fence? Assuming she didn't divorce you the first time, has she got more & more pi~~ed every time she later caught you?

You couldn't make this stuff up even for a television soap opera.

Bottom line is that I think Trump will badly hurt his campaign if he pursues this line of attack 


I had a meeting with several decorators this week, all women, and the topic drifted into politics. Three of the five are staunch republicans, the others independent. Every one of them was absolutely horrified at how disgusting Trump is. And every one of them is voting HC. I think he's in big trouble.
They lied to you bud there isn't a single republican that would give the beast two craps must less there vote. IMHO.

Funny, I didn't see you in the room..... Wink
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2016, 08:38:04 PM »

Nope not if they are supporting that piece of human fecal matter.


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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2016, 10:02:35 PM »

I would say Hillary's apparent treatment of the women her hubby shagged is a Hell of a lot more relevant than the idiotic birther issue that was brought up in the debate......which backfired on both the moderator and Hillary.
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2016, 05:46:16 AM »

I think mr Trump must be pretty desparate if he wants to bring the nineties back to life. On the other hand, if the debate showed anything, it showed that he doesn't stand a chance against mrs Clinton if he sticks to the issues of today.
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« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2016, 05:51:23 AM »

I think mr Trump must be pretty desparate if he wants to bring the nineties back to life. On the other hand, if the debate showed anything, it showed that he doesn't stand a chance against mrs Clinton if he sticks to the issues of today.

Why? The democraps bring Bush up all the time. Seems to work for them.
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« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2016, 06:20:22 AM »

The issue is not Bill hitting on anything female.

As Serk said, the issue is Hillary attacking and destroying ALL the women who dared say Bill did anything!  And then, claim to be a champion of women.

Since almost everyone participating in this thread is backing up their claims by posting factual and specific information, how about you completing your above post by listing each of these victims allegedly destroyed by HC together with a brief statement of precisely what HC did to destroy them.
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« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2016, 06:28:18 AM »

Yeah and they are not republicans at heart.
Anyone with half a good mind could not pull the lever for that lying Biotch. She lies so much she don't know what the truth is.
And are we talking reading the news that is one sided?
I always considered Poppy Bush a good republican at heart with more than half a brain. But since you are now the arbitrator of who is a true republican I guess I was mistaken. Do you consider the Wall Street Journal a bastion of liberalism ?
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« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2016, 06:48:28 AM »

so DK and Baldo u both support and will vote for a UN backed woman who will bring 100ks more jihadist muslims into this country who per their cult book call ANY non muslim the devil and must be killed if u don't convert and ACCEPT their ways. Jihadist who treat woman like cattle and per their book of peace are allowed to GANG RAPE, ABUSE, BEAT, and MURDER all non-believing woman. Is this what u want for your lives and your country? She will stack the supreme court and take away your ability to protect the woman and daughters in your life.

DO U KNOW THIS IS WHAT U ARE BACKING? THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA AND YOUR WAY OF LIFE.
Maybe u need to read what is going on in europe and england and that attacks are going on more and more in this country. Watching the MAINSTEAM news media will not show you what is going on.

The muslims of the world never stopped their agenda of conquering the world something the Crusades stopped for happening centuries ago.
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« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2016, 07:02:44 AM »

If I was a Republican and riding the gravy train I would be worried about Trump getting in. I would have to seriously think that Hillary was the best option to maintain status quo and  corrupt practices.

In the Bible there is a couple by the name of Ahab and Jezebel. Now everyone pretty much knows Jezebel but the story is not so well known. I would suggest that if you want to see Bill and Hillary's relationship you read this story. He was a king and wanted a piece of land and was upset he couldnt get it. She was his wife she made a plot to kill the owners and take their land for a house. This is the model for Bill and Hillary and who says the Bible is not current.

We have come so far out on the corruption meter that even cheating on your wife with a national reveal and lying to the American public is seen as no big deal. I dont know to many women without self serving motives would stick around, even while these outside relationships are still going on. Not to mention actually fighting to discredit and soil his lovers reputation and life in general. I have to wonder if Bills smokes cigars anymore in Hillary's presence.

The Clinton's are so acceptably evil that any corruption sounds mild.

O made the statement that Hillary would be 4 more years of his policies that is not an endorsement but a condemnation.

Why is no one mentioning Hillary's subservience to the CFR?

George Soros has given millions to Hillary

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/george-soros-the-hillary-democrats-billionaire-puppetmaster/

The memo suggests that the research was outsourced to the Center for American Progress (CAP), a leftist think tank that has "received millions of dollars in grants from Soros' groups," the Daily Caller's Chuck Ross reports.
Oh yes, CAP also happens to have been founded by John Podesta, Hillary' Clinton's campaign chief. One of many close ties between Soros and Clinton.

So remember the next time Hillary postures as a pro-Israel Democrat -- her campaign has ties to groups that actively undercut the Jewish state, our only real ally in the Mideast.

"Keep in mind that the relationship between Hillary Clinton and George Soros is strong enough that he was able to dictate State Department policy in Albania," wrote American Thinker founder Thomas Lifson this week. "Who knows what the hack will reveal somewhere in its thousands of documents?"

Who knows, indeed? For the record, the Center for Responsive Politics says that so far in the 2016 political cycle, Soros is the sixth largest giver, at over $12 million given to left-wing candidates.

So while Soros and other billionaires fund Clinton's campaign and other left-wing causes, the Clinton Family Foundation focuses on extending the Clintons' political clout both here and abroad by trading political access for cash.


The Clintons have together pulled in more than $240 million since leaving the White House "dead broke," as Hillary once put it. Now the Clinton Foundation reportedly is under federal investigation for its questionable fundraising practices.

"It's a way, effectively, to get around those campaign laws," noted Peter Schweizer, author of the extensively documented book "Clinton Cash," in a recent interview. "Hillary Clinton running for president in 2008, if you're a foreign oligarch, you can't give to her campaign, but you can have Bill Clinton give a 20-minute speech for half a million dollars, or you can make a $5 million donation to the Clinton Foundation, and you've got access every bit as much as if you had raised money for their political campaign. That's really what the Clintons have done."

http://observer.com/2016/08/dc-leak-exposes-top-clinton-donor-george-soros-manipulating-elections/
DC Leak Exposes Top Clinton Donor George Soros Manipulating Elections
The troubling ties between Soros and Clinton extend to her tenure as secretary of state.

An email released by Wikileaks revealed that, in 2011, Soros instructed Clinton to intervene in Albanian politics—advice she acted upon.

Soros directly benefited from Clinton pushing for the 2011 Panama Free Trade Agreement, as several of Soros’ holdings were implicated in the recent scandal there. That deal opened up the country for billionaires and millionaires to exploit as a tax haven, which was exposed in the Panama Papers leak earlier this year.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/30/heres-who-was-in-the-room-when-clinton-met-with-soros-at-state-dept.html
Here's who was in the room when Clinton met with Soros at State Dept.
On June 2, 2010, Hillary Clinton's calendar as secretary of state shows that she held a half-hour meeting with billionaire investor George Soros and officials from his Open Society Institute, which makes grants to various causes around the world.
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« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2016, 07:08:36 AM »



We have come so far out on the corruption meter that even cheating on your wife with a national reveal and lying to the American public is seen as no big deal.

I thought you were trying to make the case FOR Trump, not AGAINST Trump ?  coolsmiley
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« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2016, 07:12:17 AM »



I don't know what the "piss off all the fat people" is about. Not sure about "piss off all the women who have been cheated on" perspective either.
Not seeing either.

1. The woman stepped forward on her own. Hillary took up her "cause". There is no other evidence except for the woman's accusations that Trump said something mean. Didn't rape her. Didn't slap her. Didn't ruin her reputation.

2. CNN ran a story about her at the time and mentions the "expanding universe" in reference to the woman gaining some weight during her reign as Miss Universe. We are supposed to now accept their condemnation and media's condemnation of Mr. Trump's alleged meanness. Which he denies.

3. We can, in the face of this media farce, still downplay, if not totally ignore the documented conduct and attitude of Mrs. Clinton towards the women her husband played around with while standing by him simply for political gain.

Basically, she was destroying the reputation and lives of her husband's victims. And they were indeed victims. Used them and tossed them.

Let's give her a pass on that but throw a fit over Trump because he possibly said something mean to someone.

Bravo.






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The whole initial premise put forth by DK is BS and Moonshot is correct on all points.  Many woman came forth about the real Slick Willy which included many instances where he just out of the blue forced himself on woman or would drop trousers to get their reactions.  This is how Paula Jones won a million dollar settlement or pay off against the Clintons.  Juanita Broderick was raped by Willy.  Kathleen Willy has quite the story of his actions and there are so many others.  Slick Willy is a far cry from the person the author suggested.

There was a failed attempt this past spring to bring forth Miss America contestants to say bad things about Trump when all said he was a most gracious guy with some coming forward with how Trump helped them out during tenuous periods of their life at the time. Also at that time the Washington post said they were going to put 25 reports into vetting Trump.  And up to now nothing came forward.  They found one woman this former Miss Universe from 1996 who by all accounts as written and spoken about by CNN at the time had a serious weight problem and other problems as well.  The real story and it was played by Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh earlier this week from actual interviews with Trump in 96 and on record is the Miss Universe committee wanted to get rid of her because of her weight problem and other issues.  Trump stood up for her at the time and refused to replace her. He even hired a trainer to help her lose the weight.  And this lady had some serious problems.  2 years later in 98 her drug dealing boyfriend shot and killed another drug dealer and she drove the get away car from the seen, but the judge said he did not have enough evidence to go forward.  At that time she verbally threatened to kill the judge herself.

Now out of no where 20 years later she steps forward as the one with a whole different story of what went on at the time.  The Washington Post earlier this week ran a story of how the DNC in essence turned her.  At some point in time it will probably be found that operatives in the DNC worked to turn her and probably paid her a lot of money to say what she is saying because this is how they always operate.

Trump has a history of promoting women to  high executive positions in his operations at a time back in the 70's and 80s and paying them at or above what men executives were making long before other corporations were.  I have heard several of these women interviewed with glowing remarks about what Trump had done for them, but you will not find these in the lame stream media propoganda arm of the  DNC as it does not fit the narrative.  Remember how these folks took one of the truly nice guy Republicans of all time, Romney and made him into Dr. Evil.  Except Romney never fought back much. They did the same to a war hero John McCain. Now this  Trump guy is a fighter.  It was late last fall when the beast started to attack Trump about woman.  Trump immediately brought up her husbands transgressions and how she enabled him and was at the front of the Bimbo erruptions squad which included the biggest sleaze bag of all James Carvell who daily lambasted them using such names as trailer trash, whores,  and worse.   Clandestine operative were sent to these woman, killed their pets, and told them to keep quiet and other veiled threats.  Remarkably many still went forward and have said they were in fear of their lives but had to get the truth out.
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This lastest attack on Trump is textbook and they are hoping the low information public will not know the real story.  They can not compete with him in  the arena of how to get America moving, and for the past six weeks Trump has owned them and pulled ahead and they are very worried so it is back to kill the messenger.

In regards to another message their are still a few Republicans who say they will not vote for Trump.  They are sore as hell that he took their nice private cocktail club away from them.  Most are the globalists of which Trump speaks who really do not care who is in power just as long as they have some say on pushing forward with open boarders, pitting the hard working Americans against inferior paid and performing low wage countries to keep our wages depressed and all the other New World Order crap.
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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2016, 07:18:57 AM »

Well if Trump ever cheats on his wife,  he is NUTS.

Gotta love going home to that pin up girl and laying some pipe..   laugh

Has anyone seen the old pics of her posing nude?  NICE! and still nice today...   coolsmiley

I think Trump should just SHUT UP on this women issue and just discuss the more important issues at hand. 
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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2016, 07:30:41 AM »



We have come so far out on the corruption meter that even cheating on your wife with a national reveal and lying to the American public is seen as no big deal.

I thought you were trying to make the case FOR Trump, not AGAINST Trump ?  coolsmiley

Explain what you mean, with facts please.

Unfortunately I am making a negative case, its not for Trump but against Hillary showing the absolute pattern of corruptness, lying, selling out and scandals that surround Hillary that will continue in the White House. I wish I could make a positive endorsement because while Trump being a business man has managed to raise a family and have them supporting him on stage and in life says a lot about the man. But his supporters know all this but ones like you seem to look the other way on Hillarys evil bag of tricks. We dont even have to look hard for it or for one or two small incidents because its a pattern of corruptness that she maintaines in life and relationships along with each appointment she serves in.

To me she is an albatross in around the neck of public service.

But there is one good thing that is coming out of this all we are seeing the total corruptness and buddy buddy relationships that led to the unfair and special favors, paybacks and guided directions that is happening around Washington. Without Hillary we probably would have looked at Ashcroft as a good civil servant not what the facts reveal. Along with a good portion of the goverment tied to some very questionable programs, people and special interests.

A vote for Hillary is a vote for approval  and agreement of every questionable incident and  actions she has done.


I for one am not in agreement and will not be part of every scandal she has done nor will I wink and say its ok and give her an approved rating.
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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2016, 07:33:51 AM »



We have come so far out on the corruption meter that even cheating on your wife with a national reveal and lying to the American public is seen as no big deal.

I thought you were trying to make the case FOR Trump, not AGAINST Trump ?  coolsmiley

Explain what you mean, with facts please.
You do know the Donald cheated on 2 of his 3 wives ? And the public doesn't seem to care.
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« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2016, 07:49:04 AM »

Meathead - Did he (Trump) use the Oval office (the people's office) for a down and dirty? Outright insult to every American when that happened. 
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« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2016, 07:54:56 AM »



We have come so far out on the corruption meter that even cheating on your wife with a national reveal and lying to the American public is seen as no big deal.

I thought you were trying to make the case FOR Trump, not AGAINST Trump ?  coolsmiley

Explain what you mean, with facts please.
You do know the Donald cheated on 2 of his 3 wives ? And the public doesn't seem to care.
NO I did not know that and thank You for telling me.

while I agree that is a lapse in morals and a bit of a problem its not using a relationship for power and not continuing in a appearance of a relationship that there is ongoing infidelity and is nothing but a shell for power and position.

I can excuse a failed marriage I cannot excuse the lying, cheating, payoff, corruptness of Hillary along with a failed and display marriage.

Another reason its a negative campaign, neither is great or perfect but one is far worse than the other.
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« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2016, 08:00:35 AM »



We have come so far out on the corruption meter that even cheating on your wife with a national reveal and lying to the American public is seen as no big deal.

I thought you were trying to make the case FOR Trump, not AGAINST Trump ?  coolsmiley

Explain what you mean, with facts please.
You do know the Donald cheated on 2 of his 3 wives ? And the public doesn't seem to care.

I wouldn't say "the public" doesn't care.  I do know most of us prioritize what we care about, and these diversionary smokescreen issues are much lower on the totem pole than Hillary's blatant criminality.

We will vote accordingly.
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« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2016, 08:04:29 AM »

so DK and Baldo u both support and will vote for a UN backed woman who will bring 100ks more jihadist muslims into this country who per their cult book call ANY non muslim the devil and must be killed if u don't convert and ACCEPT their ways. Jihadist who treat woman like cattle and per their book of peace are allowed to GANG RAPE, ABUSE, BEAT, and MURDER all non-believing woman. Is this what u want for your lives and your country? She will stack the supreme court and take away your ability to protect the woman and daughters in your life.

DO U KNOW THIS IS WHAT U ARE BACKING? THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA AND YOUR WAY OF LIFE.
Maybe u need to read what is going on in europe and england and that attacks are going on more and more in this country. Watching the MAINSTEAM news media will not show you what is going on.

The muslims of the world never stopped their agenda of conquering the world something the Crusades stopped for happening centuries ago.


I wouldn't presume to speak for Baldo,  but for me personally, I would never, never under circumstance, vote for the woman you describe.

My second observation concerning your quoted post is that the worst thing you can do to influence anyone is to overstate your case and fail to support your contentions with established facts.

The third observation is that it is an absolute and total waste of time and energy to engage in argument a person who seems to be living in a parallel universe based on facts different from the facts the rest of us live and abide with.

This subject is a really good argument among those of us limiting ourselves to the facts founded in reality. For those not bound by these limitations, their behavior is akin to trying to come in first and third in a circle-jerk.
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« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2016, 08:08:52 AM »

Meathead - Did he (Trump) use the Oval office (the people's office) for a down and dirty? Outright insult to every American when that happened. 
So, it doesn't matter that you have a down and dirty, as long as it isn't in the White House?
https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/Sexual-Affairs-by-US-Presidents

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