Jeep pickup...

[hubcapsc]

The Mini has 170,000 miles on it now, and its not dead yet. I washed it today and
it goes to the dealer for some service tomorrow. Mini dealers (at least the ones in
SC, I've used both of them) aren't like Honda motorcycle dealers... the only reason
the Mini is still going strong at 170,000 is because it gets good service. I admit,
they $ervice you at the service, but they do a good job. And they always give me
a loaner... I schedule service by emailing the service guy directly, he told me this
time he'd probably have "a fast" loaner for me, I'm not sure what that means, but
I look forward to whatever I'll be driving away in tomorrow.

Anywho... I noticed today that Jeep has committed to a pickup truck for
2017, based on the Wrangler, so I guess it will be a real heavy-duty 4WD
capable truck. And it doesn't look like all those other jelly-bean shaped
pickup trucks...



I always drove pickup trucks before the Mini, I could see driving one of these.
What do you think?

-Mike

[Rams]

I think that if I could afford one, it would already be on order..............
I'd also get it in a diesel version if that was an option.

I miss my Wrangler..............

Edited:  I can't even imagine going from a pickup to a mini but, whatever rings your bell...

[The emperor has no clothes]

  looks good.

[Jess from VA]

I like it.  

Especially if it is not loaded up with computers and sensors and black boxes (if that's even possible anymore).  Even roll down windows would be fine with me.

But, in my limited experience, short boxes are way less handy than full size boxes.   Especially if you don't have a good hitch and trailer sitting around to do the long box work.

But I suppose it comes down to how much long box use/need you foresee.

[Gavin_Sons]

Now thats a proper pickup. Looks old school too. I have always wanted a wrangler but my old truck had 215k on it so I decided to replace it with a new version instead of keeping the old one and buying a wrangler. I saw ford is getting pretty serious ablut a new bronco also. The concept looks awesome.

[signart]

Love the lines, the stance, the steel wheels, hub caps. but trucks have got to do everything these days and to do everything you've got to have 4 doors ...and for me a loooong bed.
Looks like their going to make 'em too.
Even better from the front.

[scooperhsd]

Looks good, but I'd like to see more info  on it. I've thought a about a pickup, but the current cost of a new one from most others is way more than I want to pay. I thought I'd be looking at a 5-10 year old used 1/2 ton.

Basic 2 door long bed truck, with A/C and radio, diesel would be nice, manual transmission would be nice.

[Rams]

Love the lines, the stance, the steel wheels, hub caps. but trucks have got to do everything these days and to do everything you've got to have 4 doors ...and for me a loooong bed.
Looks like their going to make 'em too.
Even better from the front.

For most folks, you're correct.   A lot of folks use their pickups as people totters.   On my last Wrangler, I actually removed the back seat and made the full cab into a half cab.   Added a trailer hitch, swapped out the 2.5 L four cylinder for a 4.0 L six.   Loved that ride.   But, some one else wanted it more than I thought I did.    There will be another but, I'm wanting an LJ, longer wheel base but still a two door.   I don't haul a lot of folks with me and if you remember, Bowser takes up some room.  

[Gavin_Sons]

For some reason I can see Smokin' Joe driving that. 

[Bighead]

Mike he may just put you in a 2.0 liter Turbo S model or even better a JCW's model
I love my S model

[f6john]

    The Jeep is a nice rugged looking vehicle.  I'm glad I'm past needing or wanting one though. My 05 Titan is paid for, still looks very presentable, isn't nickle and dimeing me to death and I have a few other options to drive when the 14-15 mpg starts to nag at me. I couldn't afford a new vehicle and poor mileage too!

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

I've said it before if you get one ... You Can't Hide Money 

[old2soon]

cursed thing Actually LOOKS like a pick up truck SHOULD look.  The WHY of me liking the Hummer-Both of em have the do NOT eff with me look!  Wunder will the price point induce a heart attack?  RIDE SAFE. 

[gordonv]

Back in something like 1986' I was looking at the Comanche Pick Up, in diesel. Loved the power and the mileage that it put out. Was wanting to buy one too, but the spousal unit went for a 4 dr car instead.

[Rams]

My 05 Titan is paid for, still looks very presentable, isn't nickle and dimeing me to death and I have a few other options to drive when the 14-15 mpg starts to nag at me. I couldn't afford a new vehicle and poor mileage too!

14 to 15 MPG?   Wow, I can get that mileage with your Titan loaded on my trailer.   

Just pull'n your chain.   But, it's true.   Be safe.

Ron

[f6john]

   Yea, I'm a slow learner, diesel next time if there is a next time.

[Beardo]

I like it. When I bought my last truck, a 2007 Tacoma, it was one of the last models without traction control and all the other expensive crap that I didn't want. It's been a good truck but is getting up there in miles. I don't want a full sized truck(won't fit in my garage) but need something I can take ice fishing, hunting, etc. I've been dreading what's out there now for mid sized trucks, Chevy Canyon/Colorado or Toyota Tacoma, both loaded up with all the tech that I don't want. I used to have a Dodge Dakota and it was probably the best vehicle I've ever owned until it got totalled off.  

If I could buy a truck with rubber floor mats, manual hubs, stick shift transfer case, steel bumpers, no useless 20" wheels, etc, I'd be happy.

While not a Chrysler fan, I'd definitely consider this. The box looks very small for hauling any lumber or anything, but that's the case with full sized trucks nowadays too (my dad's brand new F150 has a smaller box than my Tacoma).

Thanks for posting that. Something to look forward to. Love the utilitarian look of the exterior and interior.

[Hook#3287]

Looking good.  Grill looks like they did in the 60's

[hubcapsc]

loaded up with all the tech that I don't want.

I think everything is loaded with tech crap now, probably the Jeep too.
I tried to google search on low tech cars a few weeks ago, and came up
with Yugos and stuff... I woudn't be surprised if the Jeep has a teevee
screen on the dashboard for gps and internet... my 2005 Mini had an
option for a big gps screen even, but at least it was an option (which
I didn't get). I got the good stereo and limited-slip front differential
though...  One "high tech" option I got on the Mini was a direct hook
up for a iPod... I don't think they make iPods anymore, and they quit
making the kind that hooks to a "firewire" plug like the Mini has a
long time ago...

Grill looks like they did in the 60's

Here's a scary thought... remember when they made Thunderbirds
again a few years ago, with the cool looking chrome grills... so I went
up to one and touched it... flimsy plastic!

-Mike

[Beardo]

The thing I like about my Tacoma and older trucks is I can reach over and turn the knob for the fan, temp, stereo volume, etc, without taking my eyes off the road. Most of the new vehicles, you have to go through several touch screen menus just to do that. Not safe, almost as bad as texting.

[RDKLL]

Just found this updated version of the original story. Looks like in addition to the diesel there may be a twin turbo 4 cyl as well.
Technology is unavoidable. Hot rodders back in the day though the computer would kill performance modification...
Great looking truck, would definitely look at one if I needed one.
Wuith the expected demand, I bet it'll be expensive.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a29009/2017-jeep-wrangler-pickup-info/

[Rams]

Just found this updated version of the original story. Looks like in addition to the diesel there may be a twin turbo 4 cyl as well.
Technology is unavoidable. Hot rodders back in the day though the computer would kill performance modification...
Great looking truck, would definitely look at one if I needed one.
Wuith the expected demand, I bet it'll be expensive.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a29009/2017-jeep-wrangler-pickup-info/

Automotive News reports that Fiat Chrysler is rumored to be developing a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder for the Wrangler. Output is estimated at "nearly 300 horsepower." The engine, code-named "Hurricane," is said to be an aluminum-block design with direct fuel injection, variable valve timing, and a twin-scroll turbo.

The anticipated engine would likely be built at FCA's Trenton Engine Complex outside of Detroit. Last month, the automaker announced that the plant would be updated to build a new four-cylinder engine, Automotive News says. The facility currently produces the 3.6-liter Pentastar V6 that makes 285 horsepower in the current Wrangler.

If the turbocharged Hurricane engine ends up in the 2017 Wrangler, it will likely be an optional drivetrain aimed at improved fuel economy. FCA boss Sergio Marchionne previously hinted that the next-generation Wrangler would offer an optional four-cylinder engine and eight-speed automatic transmission.

With previous rumors suggesting that the 2017 Wrangler could offer diesel and hybrid drivetrains, and switch to a lightweight aluminum body, it's clear Jeep is hoping for significant improvements in fuel economy. We're thinking a grunty turbo engine would make the Wrangler satisfyingly zippy on-road, though rock crawling fans would likely prefer a large-displacement, naturally-aspirated engine. Us? We're still holding out hope for a Hellcat-powered Wrangler.

Well, I have no desire for a Hellcat powered Wrangler but, that twin turbo diesel does peak my interest, especially in a pick up version.   Will have to keep my eyes open and take a look at this product.    I'm sure it won't be priced above $60,000 or so.   

[pais]

I miss my Wrangler..............

  
  
  

  This is what I am seeing for a new Jeep PU. Not bad but, hope they make it so the top comes off. It will be out of my $$ regardless. Prices on new and used Wranglers are unreal. Going to a 4 door and updating the ride has made it rain $$ on Jeep since 2007.
   I've owned 2 in my life, loved them both!
   1983 CJ-8 Scrambler, bought used in '88. VGC, big mistake letting go of that one! Cannot remember what I paid!
   1992 Wrangler YJ, bought used '05 for $1800. Decent shape and the kids and I had a blast in it! Nothing like the laughter and giggles of children having fun.  

[Rams]

I miss my Wrangler..............

  
  
  

  This is what I am seeing for a new Jeep PU. Not bad but, hope they make it so the top comes off. It will be out of my $$ regardless. Prices on new and used Wranglers are unreal. Going to a 4 door and updating the ride has made it rain $$ on Jeep since 2007.
   I've owned 2 in my life, loved them both!
   1983 CJ-8 Scrambler, bought used in '88. VGC, big mistake letting go of that one! Cannot remember what I paid!
   1992 Wrangler YJ, bought used '05 for $1800. Decent shape and the kids and I had a blast in it! Nothing like the laughter and giggles of children having fun.  

Not Bad?   Really depends on the buyer's taste but, I love it.   Yeah, I miss my last Wrangler also but, hope to find an LJ I can modify and play with.   Would like to convert one to a diesel, probably the old Mercedes five cylinder, 3 liter.    Had three different Jeeps during my life.   Loved them all.   Ironically, I'm not a mudder or a rock climber.   I just love the ability to go where I want (almost regardless of conditions) when I want and not worry about getting back to the road.  

For those who don't get into Jeeps, It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand.  

[pais]

   Pics of Scrambler buried away somewhere in this house. Just hope I still have'm! Had to steel one from the WWW. Unique looking, notice they did not come w/backseat. I think they were more of a hybrid vehicle. At the time Jeep was still producing the Gladiator J series PU

  

  

......and the Comanche PU
  

[pais]

   Ironically, I'm not a mudder or a rock climber.   I just love the ability to go where I want (almost regardless of conditions) when I want and not worry about getting back to the road.  

For those who don't get into Jeeps, It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand.  
[/quote]

    Well said Rams! Plus I love the top off capability.

[..]

I've said it before if you get one ... You Can't Hide Money 

How's the boat running Joe?

[3fan4life]

Looks Good!

Jeep used to make a tough as nails p/u truck.

The only thing tougher were the International Harvester pickups:

[..]

I'd be waiting a couple of years for all the bugs to be sorted.

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

I've said it before if you get one ... You Can't Hide Money 

How's the boat running Joe?

Posted a video on Facebook along with some pictures with it screamin' down the Clinch River yesterday . Still need 3 more deep cycle batteries ( expensive for good ones ) along with line replacement on all my rod and reels . Gordon wants to put a new water pump on it just for PM . For sitting in the garage for 10 years it fired right up and ran like a raped ape.

[Black Dog]

Love the look of the new PU 

My '09 JK was a fun 'toy'  ...  A blast to drive, and kinda cool with the various ways it could be configured, but as far as being useful, it fell way short.  Couldn't get out of it's own way, and towing anything that weighed more than 1000 lbs, was like throwing out a boat anchor.  Add to that a very small interior, and I only owned it for one year.



Sometimes I miss it...

Black Dog

[Beardo]

Yeah, I've always loved the idea of a jeep, but if I'm going to have a 4x4 with crappy fuel economy, I might as well have a box and get a truck.

I would think the Jeep truck wouldn't have the loud, leaky, cold ride that jeeps have been associated with either, with a solid fixed top on it.

[Rams]

Yeah, I've always loved the idea of a jeep, but if I'm going to have a 4x4 with crappy fuel economy, I might as well have a box and get a truck.

I would think the Jeep truck wouldn't have the loud, leaky, cold ride that jeeps have been associated with either, with a solid fixed top on it.

Being honest about it, fuel mileage is something everyone normally consider but, just like our Valkyries, pick ups and Jeeps, the decision is normally based on what the vehicle offers and are the Pro versus the Cons on the side you prefer.    When you buy something with the aerodynamics of a brick and the drive train/gearing of a dirt mover, you get what you pay for.   

Reference a solid fixed top, I love the ability to remove the top but, I'm not a canvas fan so, I prefer the removable hard top.   To each their own.

It's a Jeep thing.   

[Gavin_Sons]

Yeah, I've always loved the idea of a jeep, but if I'm going to have a 4x4 with crappy fuel economy, I might as well have a box and get a truck.

I would think the Jeep truck wouldn't have the loud, leaky, cold ride that jeeps have been associated with either, with a solid fixed top on it.

Being honest about it, fuel mileage is something everyone normally consider but, just like our Valkyries, pick ups and Jeeps, the decision is normally based on what the vehicle offers and are the Pro versus the Cons on the side you prefer.    When you buy something with the aerodynamics of a brick and the drive train/gearing of a dirt mover, you get what you pay for.   

Reference a solid fixed top, I love the ability to remove the top but, I'm not a canvas fan so, I prefer the removable hard top.   To each their own.

It's a Jeep thing.   

that truck with a removeable hard top would be the berries. I also like Jeeps with hard tops.

[hubcapsc]

The more I look around the more I think they won't be out for a year or
two, and probably not the cool one with the chrome grill and steel
wheels...

Oh yeah... There's a tiny oil pan leak on the Mini, and power steering too...
Both leaks are so small they advised me to wait till next time the get them
fixed, there will be a ton of labor involved. The brakes and rotors are fine,
they just rotated the tires and changed the oil, and off I went in my car. I stood
under the car with the mechanic and got to ask all kinds of questions and look
at stuff. One thing I was curious about is the brake caliper pistons. Unlike our
bikes, the exposed part of the pistons have booties on them... I guess they don't
get dirty (like ours do) under the booties. Also... I have the Limited Slip front
differential on mine, I read on the innernet that if you have an LSD Mini on the lift
and in gear, if you spin one front wheel, the other one will spin in the other direction, I
did it yesterday and that was how it worked.

-Mike

[Beardo]

From what I could find, late 2017. Gotta keep the Tacoma til at least then. Although if it's an all new drivetrain, I'd probably wait til year 2 at least.

[f6john]

The more I look around the more I think they won't be out for a year or
two, and probably not the cool one with the chrome grill and steel
wheels...

Oh yeah... There's a tiny oil pan leak on the Mini, and power steering too...
Both leaks are so small they advised me to wait till next time the get them
fixed, there will be a ton of labor involved. The brakes and rotors are fine,
they just rotated the tires and changed the oil, and off I went in my car. I stood
under the car with the mechanic and got to ask all kinds of questions and look
at stuff. One thing I was curious about is the brake caliper pistons. Unlike our
bikes, the exposed part of the pistons have booties on them... I guess they don't
get dirty (like ours do) under the booties. Also... I have the Limited Slip front
differential on mine, I read on the innernet that if you have an LSD Mini on the lift
and in gear, if you spin one front wheel, the other one will spin in the other direction, I
did it yesterday and that was how it worked.

-Mike

  On a traditional rear wheel drive if the wheels rotate in opposite directions when turned, it indicates an open differential. Limited slips the wheels will turn in the same direction unless the clutches are worn out.

[hubcapsc]

On a traditional rear wheel drive if the wheels rotate in opposite directions when turned, it indicates an open differential. Limited slips the wheels will turn in the same direction unless the clutches are worn out.

LSD is not a common option on Minis... when I picked up the car from the dealer
he did a demo for me. He hosed down the parking lot, and we got in a "normal"
Mini and peeled out - it was squirrely... we patched out in mine and it went
straight as an arrow...

As far as the opposite-spin thing... I heard that on the Internet 

-Mike

[f6john]

On a traditional rear wheel drive if the wheels rotate in opposite directions when turned, it indicates an open differential. Limited slips the wheels will turn in the same direction unless the clutches are worn out.

LSD is not a common option on Minis... when I picked up the car from the dealer
he did a demo for me. He hosed down the parking lot, and we got in a "normal"
Mini and peeled out - it was squirrely... we patched out in mine and it went
straight as an arrow...

As far as the opposite-spin thing... I heard that on the Internet 

-Mike

     Wasn't doubting you had LSD, but with 170k and the opposite rotation it might be time for another burn out. 

[cookiedough]

I like it. When I bought my last truck, a 2007 Tacoma, it was one of the last models without traction control and all the other expensive crap that I didn't want. It's been a good truck but is getting up there in miles. I don't want a full sized truck(won't fit in my garage) but need something I can take ice fishing, hunting, etc. I've been dreading what's out there now for mid sized trucks, Chevy Canyon/Colorado or Toyota Tacoma, both loaded up with all the tech that I don't want. I used to have a Dodge Dakota and it was probably the best vehicle I've ever owned until it got totalled off.  

If I could buy a truck with rubber floor mats, manual hubs, stick shift transfer case, steel bumpers, no useless 20" wheels, etc, I'd be happy.

While not a Chrysler fan, I'd definitely consider this. The box looks very small for hauling any lumber or anything, but that's the case with full sized trucks nowadays too (my dad's brand new F150 has a smaller box than my Tacoma).

Thanks for posting that. Something to look forward to. Love the utilitarian look of the exterior and interior.

good luck nowadays finding a NEWER truck without it being expensive.  Pricing out a new tacoma vs. a comparable full sized tundra,  might as well get the tundra for about 2 grand more is all apples to apples comparison of features.  

If it was not for the price, I would consider the new honda ridgeline in FWD, still able to push 5k lbs. towing not needing AWD with it being FWD,  strongest/fastest V6 on any mid-sized truck engine, and have a car like ride, bed is very useful, but a tad bit short but not any shorter (and is wider) than a full sized crew cab 5 1/2' bed length.  Honda dealers will not let them go any lower than 500 off full msrp pricing since selling like hotcakes.    Best mpg as well in FWD pushing 25-26 hwy. mpg.

Price off msrp though needs to come down some still, will give it some time they might?

they use to sell a base model tundra with rubber floors, etc. but not sure they do that anymore either have not seen one in a long time.