Charlottesville (VA) 'Unite the Right' rally

[hubcapsc]

She did nothing wrong. You can try to spin it however you want.

She just happened to be in the area sight seeing 

Your bias/prejudice is the exact reason this happened, BTW.

Can you say distraction from real news like the process to prosecute Hillary or look at Loretta Lynch.

Peaceful protest is not illegal. We should have more of it.

Which ones are the peaceful ones?



-Mike

[The emperor has no clothes]

She did nothing wrong. You can try to spin it however you want.

She just happened to be in the area sight seeing 

Your bias/prejudice is the exact reason this happened, BTW.

Can you say distraction from real news like the process to prosecute Hillary or look at Loretta Lynch.

Peaceful protest is not illegal. We should have more of it.

Which ones are the peaceful ones?



-Mike

Mike, the girl killed walking down the street did nothing violent by all accounts that I've seen. If you know different, I'm all ears.

[Jess from VA]

Lending moral support by presence, affirmation, common belief, economic donation, etc, with any single affirmative action in furtherance of the plan, makes you a co conspirator.  So be careful who you choose to walk with. 

Just because the left are the ones doing most of the violence these days, and the right are mostly law abiding citizens who want to obey the rule of law, the (violent) left should never get the idea that we could not sweep them from the playing field whenever we choose. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

The idiot who drove the car into the crowd does not represent white supremacists any more than the nutcase who shot up the republican lawmakers' baseball practice represented the Democratic party.  Neither reflect our shared values, and both were fueled by deranged individuals.

In this case the protests got way out of hand, and as others have said the police should have done a better job planning and separating the groups.  It was known well in advance there would be large groups of protesters and counter protesters.  Obviously, there were some in both groups who did not come to peacefully protest.  There were people in both groups who came to whoop chili.

Trump said (paraphrase) the hatred and bigotry on many sides is unacceptable and condemned it in the strongest of terms.  Is that really such an awful statement?  He said we need to respect each other.  He said ideally we should love each other, but we must strive to respect each other.  

The nerve of the guy...

I beg to differ. The guy in the Challenger is representative of White Supremacists.

REALLY?  ALL White Supremists, who I DETEST by the way, are planning on killing people with their cars?

That means EVERY black who attends a BLM rally, believes white people should be killed, as a number of BLM leaders have stated such.

Do you REALLY believe that meathead?  If you do, my opinion of you drops a LOT.  Even though we disagree a lot, I do respect most of your opinions.  I surely do NOT respect that one.

And, only a tiny percentage of the original march, was made up of white supremists.  They basically invaded the original march.

That is not what I said at all. He is representative of White Supremists in that they are an organization fueled by hate. Not all of them act on this hatred, but the philosophy is fueled by it.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Lending moral support by presence, affirmation, common belief, economic donation, etc, with any single affirmative action in furtherance of the plan, makes you a co conspirator.  So be careful who you choose to walk with. 

Just because the left are the ones doing most of the violence these days, and the right are mostly law abiding citizens who want to obey the rule of law, the (violent) left should never get the idea that we could not sweep them from the playing field whenever we choose. 

So, as an example. If I was peacefully protesting walking down 3rd Street and a violent group sprung up over on 6th Street, you are saying I would be culpable ?

[MP]

I beg to differ. The guy in the Challenger is representative of White Supremacists.
[/quote]

REALLY?  ALL White Supremists, who I DETEST by the way, are planning on killing people with their cars?

That means EVERY black who attends a BLM rally, believes white people should be killed, as a number of BLM leaders have stated such.

Do you REALLY believe that meathead?  If you do, my opinion of you drops a LOT.  Even though we disagree a lot, I do respect most of your opinions.  I surely do NOT respect that one.

And, only a tiny percentage of the original march, was made up of white supremists.  They basically invaded the original march.
[/quote]That is not what I said at all. He is representative of White Supremists in that they are an organization fueled by hate. Not all of them act on this hatred, but the philosophy is fueled by it.
[/quote]

Then say the same thing about BLM, and ALL the blacks, and whites, who support them.

And, the same of Muslims.  Even though "not all of them act on this hatred, but the philosophy is fueled by it".

Where is the condemnation of the Left's Antifa people, who were also armed, with guns, bats, etc, and who went after the first marchers?  NOT A PEEP from the media about them.

BLM burns sections of towns down, and it is just a few bad apples in a peaceful march.

A few bad apples in a white march, and the whole right is racist, white supremist, etc.  The double standard is sickening.

[MP]

Lending moral support by presence, affirmation, common belief, economic donation, etc, with any single affirmative action in furtherance of the plan, makes you a co conspirator.  So be careful who you choose to walk with. 

Just because the left are the ones doing most of the violence these days, and the right are mostly law abiding citizens who want to obey the rule of law, the (violent) left should never get the idea that we could not sweep them from the playing field whenever we choose. 

So, as an example. If I was peacefully protesting walking down 3rd Street and a violent group sprung up over on 6th Street, you are saying I would be culpable ?

That is EXACTLY what YOU are saying! One, ONE guy drives a car in, and YOU blame EVERYONE!

[Serk]

"Peaceful Protest"

Yup... Looked like the Antifa/BLM/Communists were real peaceful there...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOT3wDR7WZU

A pox on both their houses.

Sadly, this whole incident, and how so many people can look at the same situation and see totally different things just reaffirms my belief that it might be best for everyone if we, as a nation, call it quits and have a peaceful, orderly divorce, going our own separate ways.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I beg to differ. The guy in the Challenger is representative of White Supremacists.

REALLY?  ALL White Supremists, who I DETEST by the way, are planning on killing people with their cars?

That means EVERY black who attends a BLM rally, believes white people should be killed, as a number of BLM leaders have stated such.

Do you REALLY believe that meathead?  If you do, my opinion of you drops a LOT.  Even though we disagree a lot, I do respect most of your opinions.  I surely do NOT respect that one.

And, only a tiny percentage of the original march, was made up of white supremists.  They basically invaded the original march.
[/quote]That is not what I said at all. He is representative of White Supremists in that they are an organization fueled by hate. Not all of them act on this hatred, but the philosophy is fueled by it.
[/quote]

Then say the same thing about BLM, and ALL the blacks, and whites, who support them.

And, the same of Muslims.  Even though "not all of them act on this hatred, but the philosophy is fueled by it".

Where is the condemnation of the Left's Antifa people, who were also armed, with guns, bats, etc, and who went after the first marchers?  NOT A PEEP from the media about them.

BLM burns sections of towns down, and it is just a few bad apples in a peaceful march.

A few bad apples in a white march, and the whole right is racist, white supremist, etc.  The double standard is sickening.


[/quote]A few bad apples ? Name one person in the Neo-Nazi, White Supremists organizations who are not bad apples. Believe what you want MP.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Lending moral support by presence, affirmation, common belief, economic donation, etc, with any single affirmative action in furtherance of the plan, makes you a co conspirator.  So be careful who you choose to walk with. 

Just because the left are the ones doing most of the violence these days, and the right are mostly law abiding citizens who want to obey the rule of law, the (violent) left should never get the idea that we could not sweep them from the playing field whenever we choose. 

So, as an example. If I was peacefully protesting walking down 3rd Street and a violent group sprung up over on 6th Street, you are saying I would be culpable ?

That is EXACTLY what YOU are saying! One, ONE guy drives a car in, and YOU blame EVERYONE!

Nowhere in any of my posts have I blamed everyone for what this guy did. I said he was representative of their hatred. See the difference ?

[Serk]

A few bad apples ? Name one person in the Neo-Nazi, White Supremists organizations who are not bad apples. Believe what you want MP.

I guess it depends on your definition of "bad apple."

It seems your definition of the term is "People who think or say things I disagree with."

My definition is "People who initiate violence against others."

If we go by your definition I can see that the whole group is nothing but bushels of bad apples (As well as BLM, Antifa, etc).

If we go by my definition, there are a VERY few "bad apples" in the alt-right and associated groups, and a slightly higher number in the opposing groups.

See the distinction I'm drawing there? I don't care what someone says or things, I care what they DO. Thoughts and words don't a bad apple make, deeds do.

[The emperor has no clothes]

A few bad apples ? Name one person in the Neo-Nazi, White Supremists organizations who are not bad apples. Believe what you want MP.

I guess it depends on your definition of "bad apple."

It seems your definition of the term is "People who think or say things I disagree with."

My definition is "People who initiate violence against others."

If we go by your definition I can see that the whole group is nothing but bushels of bad apples (As well as BLM, Antifa, etc).

If we go by my definition, there are a VERY few "bad apples" in the alt-right and associated groups, and a slightly higher number in the opposing groups.

See the distinction I'm drawing there? I don't care what someone says or things, I care what they DO. Thoughts and words don't a bad apple make, deeds do.

Would you not agree that words designed to incite others of their ilk to violence are wrong ? Words can be powerful things. Inciting a race war by words is indicative of a "bad apple".

[MP]

A few bad apples ? Name one person in the Neo-Nazi, White Supremists organizations who are not bad apples. Believe what you want MP.

I guess it depends on your definition of "bad apple."

It seems your definition of the term is "People who think or say things I disagree with."

My definition is "People who initiate violence against others."

If we go by your definition I can see that the whole group is nothing but bushels of bad apples (As well as BLM, Antifa, etc).

If we go by my definition, there are a VERY few "bad apples" in the alt-right and associated groups, and a slightly higher number in the opposing groups.

See the distinction I'm drawing there? I don't care what someone says or things, I care what they DO. Thoughts and words don't a bad apple make, deeds do.

Would you not agree that words designed to incite others of their ilk to violence are wrong ? Words can be powerful things. Inciting a race war by words is indicative of a "bad apple".

So, you agree that all the calls for Trumps assisination, are "bad apples". And the people who associate with those people? 

The BLM leaders, who call for killing "whitey", and "kill the f'ing pigs", and the millions of people who associate with them?  They then are all "bad apples", by YOUR reasoning?

[MP]

Look, I want it ALL TO STOP!

Stop all the talk of violence, by BOTH sides.

I thought most of this had gotten put behind me during my lifetime, since the 50's.

Then, a Black Man ran for President.  He won, by getting a Majority of WHITE votes!

I truly had high hopes that we had gotten over the hurdle, and things would keep improving.

But he then proceeded to make EVERYTHING about race.  Things are WORSE today in race relations, than at any other time I can remember.

Such a shame.

[98valk]

Look, I want it ALL TO STOP!

Stop all the talk of violence, by BOTH sides.

I thought most of this had gotten put behind me during my lifetime, since the 50's.

Then, a Black Man ran for President.  He won, by getting a Majority of WHITE votes!

I truly had high hopes that we had gotten over the hurdle, and things would keep improving.

But he then proceeded to make EVERYTHING about race.  Things are WORSE today in race relations, than at any other time I can remember.

Such a shame.

race baiting and dissension were started by the clinton administration and was push forward full bore by obama administration. aka democrats, cause chaos, helps them stay in power/control, and when it gets so bad, the people will call for more and more protection aka police state, the UNs plan.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Look, I want it ALL TO STOP!

Stop all the talk of violence, by BOTH sides.

I thought most of this had gotten put behind me during my lifetime, since the 50's.

Then, a Black Man ran for President.  He won, by getting a Majority of WHITE votes!

I truly had high hopes that we had gotten over the hurdle, and things would keep improving.

But he then proceeded to make EVERYTHING about race.  Things are WORSE today in race relations, than at any other time I can remember.

Such a shame.

your memory might be slipping. I remember being 4 years old and my Dad stationed in Montgomery, AL. A fellow serviceman of my dads had to get in the back seat when going on to base. I remember all of them being called the "N" word. I remember them not even being able to sit by us in the laundry mat. I remember being in that laundry mat watching on TV them being chased by German Shepards.

Obama made race relations the worst ? NOT FRIGGING HARDLY !

[The emperor has no clothes]

A few bad apples ? Name one person in the Neo-Nazi, White Supremists organizations who are not bad apples. Believe what you want MP.

I guess it depends on your definition of "bad apple."

It seems your definition of the term is "People who think or say things I disagree with."

My definition is "People who initiate violence against others."

If we go by your definition I can see that the whole group is nothing but bushels of bad apples (As well as BLM, Antifa, etc).

If we go by my definition, there are a VERY few "bad apples" in the alt-right and associated groups, and a slightly higher number in the opposing groups.

See the distinction I'm drawing there? I don't care what someone says or things, I care what they DO. Thoughts and words don't a bad apple make, deeds do.

Would you not agree that words designed to incite others of their ilk to violence are wrong ? Words can be powerful things. Inciting a race war by words is indicative of a "bad apple".

So, you agree that all the calls for Trumps assisination, are "bad apples". And the people who associate with those people? 

The BLM leaders, who call for killing "whitey", and "kill the f'ing pigs", and the millions of people who associate with them?  They then are all "bad apples", by YOUR reasoning?

ANYONE calling for the assassination of the president is wrong and should be locked up. ANYONE calling for "killing whitey" should be locked up. There is no excuse for either.

[phideux]

The nerve of the guy...
[/quote]I beg to differ. The guy in the Challenger is representative of White Supremacists.
[/quote]

How is he representative of the White Supremacists? By jumping in his car and running over a bunch of white folks??? Killing a white girl????
The white supremacists want to kill white people??? I don't get it.

[Robert]

ANYONE calling for the assassination of the president is wrong and should be locked up. ANYONE calling for "killing whitey" should be locked up. There is no excuse for either.

 Are you just milking the thread or really dont get it?

[baldo]

Just because the left are the ones doing most of the violence these days, and the right are mostly law abiding citizens who want to obey the rule of law, the (violent) left should never get the idea that we could not sweep them from the playing field whenever we choose. 

What GD planet are you from?

[Gavin_Sons]

Just because the left are the ones doing most of the violence these days, and the right are mostly law abiding citizens who want to obey the rule of law, the (violent) left should never get the idea that we could not sweep them from the playing field whenever we choose. 

What GD planet are you from?

  apparently the "right" one 

[Gavin_Sons]

Just because the left are the ones doing most of the violence these days, and the right are mostly law abiding citizens who want to obey the rule of law, the (violent) left should never get the idea that we could not sweep them from the playing field whenever we choose. 

What GD planet are you from?

Oh by the way, there is that hateful rhetoric everyone has been discussing.  are you sure you were not leading the protest?

[3fan4life]

Like them or not the Neo Nazi/White Supremacists have a 1st amendment right to voice their opinion.

And the counter protesters had a right to voice their opinions as well.

However, just because someone has a right to do something doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do.

The absolute best response to the planned rally by the Neo Nazi/White Supremacists would've been absolutely NOTHING.

If there had been NO-ONE to either cheer or jeer them, their protest would've fallen on deaf ears.


Only an idiot intentionally pokes at a hornet's nest.  

And intentionally poking a hornet's nest is exactly what the counter protestors were doing.

If the KKK showed up at a BLM rally burning crosses and shouting racial slurs no-one would be surprised or upset if some of them got "capped".


The death of this 32 yr old woman is indeed a tragedy.

She didn't deserve to die and the others didn't deserve to be injured.

But make no mistake about it the counter protesters were not completely innocent bystanders.

They were intentionally poking at the hornet's nest.

No-one should be surprised that things got out of control and a tragedy occurred.


The idiot that drove his car into the protesters has been arrested, charged and is being held without bail.

He will be tried for and convicted of his crimes.

I'll even bet that he will given the maximum sentence possible under the law.

 


      

[3fan4life]

The idiot who drove the car into the crowd does not represent white supremacists any more than the nutcase who shot up the republican lawmakers' baseball practice represented the Democratic party.  Neither reflect our shared values, and both were fueled by deranged individuals.

In this case the protests got way out of hand, and as others have said the police should have done a better job planning and separating the groups.  It was known well in advance there would be large groups of protesters and counter protesters.  Obviously, there were some in both groups who did not come to peacefully protest.  There were people in both groups who came to whoop chili.

Trump said (paraphrase) the hatred and bigotry on many sides is unacceptable and condemned it in the strongest of terms.  Is that really such an awful statement?  He said we need to respect each other.  He said ideally we should love each other, but we must strive to respect each other.  

The nerve of the guy...

I beg to differ. The guy in the Challenger is representative of White Supremacists.

OK,

Then utilizing the same broad brush as you:

Micah Xavier Johnson represents all black people.

Omar Mateen represents all muslims.

[3fan4life]

Just because the left are the ones doing most of the violence these days, and the right are mostly law abiding citizens who want to obey the rule of law, the (violent) left should never get the idea that we could not sweep them from the playing field whenever we choose. 

What GD planet are you from?

BTW: Bringing profanity into a debate says that you have no valid point to make.

[Jess from VA]

This just in sports fans:  The guy in the Challenger may have been afraid for his life.  If so, he could still be guilty of negligent homicide or manslaughter, but not murder.

Using your car to escape (always potentially lethal) mob rule has been done before.  (Reginald Denny did not escape)

https://www.allenbwest.com/2017/08/14/new-shock-theory-emerges-charlottesville-drivers-motive-blowing-minds/

The last place in the world I would have been driving around was Charlottesville that day.  Well, maybe the last place in the US.  

As always, ignore the media.

[Robert]

OK So now how about standing up for these guys and that poor girl that anifta just took claim for, there goes the innocent girl sob story. Baldo I wouldn't stick up for these guys it would put a real bad name on the left.



Left-Wing Agitators Call For Escalated Tactics In Response To Charlottesville
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/14/left-wing-agitators-call-for-escalated-tactics-in-response-to-charlottesville/




Many of the same groups that have organized violent demonstrations in Berkeley, California and elsewhere are now calling for an aggressive response to the violence in Charlottesville. Far-left “anti-fascist” (or antifa) figures are advising agitators to do the job that police won’t: shutting down “fascists” and prevent them from organizing.

Charlottesville is just the beginning. If the alt-right can get away with murder there, none of us will be safe. We have to stand up to white supremacists, we have to shut down and chase out these bigots every time they try to organize, or else they will kill more people,” reads one poster created by anarchist group CrimethInc, a self-described “international network of aspiring revolutionaries.”

“The police will not protect us. They murder over a thousand people every year in this country, and infiltrate and attack our demonstrations when we stand up against alt-right terror. We have to organize to defend ourselves.”

“The American state is collapsing. As capitalism remains mired in crisis, its once solid position within the global order is crumbling. With ever widening cracks in the state’s foundations, those who reaped the benefits of white supremacist society and American imperialism are grasping at any last chance to maintain their position in the hierarchy it legitimates,” the statement continues.

One article by CrimethInc, prominently displayed on the front page of popular antifa website It’s Going Down, blames democracy and capitalism for the violence in Charlottesville. The article claims police are complicit in fascism and so “we must not look to the police or any other aspect of the state for deliverance.”

[Willow]

This just in sports fans:  The guy in the Challenger may have been afraid for his life.  If so, he could still be guilty of negligent homicide or manslaughter, but not murder.

This is where we all hold our breaths waiting for the wave of apologies and confessions of jumping to a wrong conclusion.

What comes to mind is how many on this very board have made the claim that that is exactly what they would do were their automobile surrounded by a mob.   

[baldo]

Just because the left are the ones doing most of the violence these days, and the right are mostly law abiding citizens who want to obey the rule of law, the (violent) left should never get the idea that we could not sweep them from the playing field whenever we choose. 

What GD planet are you from?

BTW: Bringing profanity into a debate says that you have no valid point to make.

Where's the profanity in Gosh Darned?

[Robert]

Where's the profanity in Gosh Darned?

Sometimes you make me laugh, I must admit you are pretty quick witted. 


Not for you but appropriate for the cause of Charlottesville and the motivation of anifta

Sympathy for the Devil : The Rolling Stones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvHycIZ3aQY

[3fan4life]

Just because the left are the ones doing most of the violence these days, and the right are mostly law abiding citizens who want to obey the rule of law, the (violent) left should never get the idea that we could not sweep them from the playing field whenever we choose. 

What GD planet are you from?

BTW: Bringing profanity into a debate says that you have no valid point to make.

Where's the profanity in Gosh Darned?

Yeah, we all know that is what you meant. 

[3fan4life]

This just in sports fans:  The guy in the Challenger may have been afraid for his life.  If so, he could still be guilty of negligent homicide or manslaughter, but not murder.

This is where we all hold our breaths waiting for the wave of apologies and confessions of jumping to a wrong conclusion.

What comes to mind is how many on this very board have made the claim that that is exactly what they would do were their automobile surrounded by a mob.   

It is hard to find video that clearly indicates what the driver did.

From this one it does look like he drove into the crowd:

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/08/12/charlottesville-crash-protesters-video-orig-vstop-dlewis.cnn/video/playlists/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally/

This is entirely different than finding yourself surrounded by an angry mob and using your car as a means of escape.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The idiot who drove the car into the crowd does not represent white supremacists any more than the nutcase who shot up the republican lawmakers' baseball practice represented the Democratic party.  Neither reflect our shared values, and both were fueled by deranged individuals.

In this case the protests got way out of hand, and as others have said the police should have done a better job planning and separating the groups.  It was known well in advance there would be large groups of protesters and counter protesters.  Obviously, there were some in both groups who did not come to peacefully protest.  There were people in both groups who came to whoop chili.

Trump said (paraphrase) the hatred and bigotry on many sides is unacceptable and condemned it in the strongest of terms.  Is that really such an awful statement?  He said we need to respect each other.  He said ideally we should love each other, but we must strive to respect each other.  

The nerve of the guy...

I beg to differ. The guy in the Challenger is representative of White Supremacists.

OK,

Then utilizing the same broad brush as you:

Micah Xavier Johnson represents all black people.

Omar Mateen represents all muslims.

Is the statement "he is representative of White Supremists" really that hard to grasp ? I didn't say he represents all white people. I think some read into things what they want.

[Moonshot_1]

This just in sports fans:  The guy in the Challenger may have been afraid for his life.  If so, he could still be guilty of negligent homicide or manslaughter, but not murder.

Using your car to escape (always potentially lethal) mob rule has been done before.  (Reginald Denny did not escape)

https://www.allenbwest.com/2017/08/14/new-shock-theory-emerges-charlottesville-drivers-motive-blowing-minds/

The last place in the world I would have been driving around was Charlottesville that day.  Well, maybe the last place in the US.  

As always, ignore the media.

I would tend to concur with the observation that car's acceleration dramatically increased after the car was hit with the bat. There were cars already in the roadway so him being there in and of itself isn't an issue. The road was clearly open to traffic. I believe there will be more to this as the days go on.

What I do know is that we see only what the media wants us to see. It's their show. This is a racist and despicable act because we are told it is so. It could very well be a 20 year old kid in the wrong place at the wrong time getting surrounded by a mob of people who have been yelling at him all day and hitting his car with a bat.

It will take time to really know what the reality is. I'll not hold my breath for the media to tell me.

[3fan4life]

The idiot who drove the car into the crowd does not represent white supremacists any more than the nutcase who shot up the republican lawmakers' baseball practice represented the Democratic party.  Neither reflect our shared values, and both were fueled by deranged individuals.

In this case the protests got way out of hand, and as others have said the police should have done a better job planning and separating the groups.  It was known well in advance there would be large groups of protesters and counter protesters.  Obviously, there were some in both groups who did not come to peacefully protest.  There were people in both groups who came to whoop chili.

Trump said (paraphrase) the hatred and bigotry on many sides is unacceptable and condemned it in the strongest of terms.  Is that really such an awful statement?  He said we need to respect each other.  He said ideally we should love each other, but we must strive to respect each other.  

The nerve of the guy...

I beg to differ. The guy in the Challenger is representative of White Supremacists.

OK,

Then utilizing the same broad brush as you:

Micah Xavier Johnson represents all black people.

Omar Mateen represents all muslims.

Is the statement "he is representative of White Supremists" really that hard to grasp ? I didn't say he represents all white people. I think some read into things what they want.

When you latch onto something you REALLY latch onto it!

I provided you with some very good examples of the absurdity of painting people with a large brush.

If you still can't see that the brush you used to paint that picture is unfairly wide, then I can't help you.



BTW: You are a white male over 50.

To these people you are a white supremacist:

 

[The emperor has no clothes]

The idiot who drove the car into the crowd does not represent white supremacists any more than the nutcase who shot up the republican lawmakers' baseball practice represented the Democratic party.  Neither reflect our shared values, and both were fueled by deranged individuals.

In this case the protests got way out of hand, and as others have said the police should have done a better job planning and separating the groups.  It was known well in advance there would be large groups of protesters and counter protesters.  Obviously, there were some in both groups who did not come to peacefully protest.  There were people in both groups who came to whoop chili.

Trump said (paraphrase) the hatred and bigotry on many sides is unacceptable and condemned it in the strongest of terms.  Is that really such an awful statement?  He said we need to respect each other.  He said ideally we should love each other, but we must strive to respect each other.  

The nerve of the guy...

I beg to differ. The guy in the Challenger is representative of White Supremacists.

OK,

Then utilizing the same broad brush as you:

Micah Xavier Johnson represents all black people.

Omar Mateen represents all muslims.

Is the statement "he is representative of White Supremists" really that hard to grasp ? I didn't say he represents all white people. I think some read into things what they want.

When you latch onto something you REALLY latch onto it!

I provided you with some very good examples of the absurdity of painting people with a large brush.

If you still can't see that the brush you used to paint that picture is unfairly wide, then I can't help you.

If you can't see that your example was nothing close to what I said, then so be it. (My brush only painted the neo-nazis and white supremacists) 

[Serk]

Ya'll wanna feel old?

The kid that did this was born in 1997... The same year as the Valkyrie (I know, the '97 models showed up in '96, but work with me here...)

[3fan4life]

The idiot who drove the car into the crowd does not represent white supremacists any more than the nutcase who shot up the republican lawmakers' baseball practice represented the Democratic party.  Neither reflect our shared values, and both were fueled by deranged individuals.

In this case the protests got way out of hand, and as others have said the police should have done a better job planning and separating the groups.  It was known well in advance there would be large groups of protesters and counter protesters.  Obviously, there were some in both groups who did not come to peacefully protest.  There were people in both groups who came to whoop chili.

Trump said (paraphrase) the hatred and bigotry on many sides is unacceptable and condemned it in the strongest of terms.  Is that really such an awful statement?  He said we need to respect each other.  He said ideally we should love each other, but we must strive to respect each other.  

The nerve of the guy...

I beg to differ. The guy in the Challenger is representative of White Supremacists.

OK,

Then utilizing the same broad brush as you:

Micah Xavier Johnson represents all black people.

Omar Mateen represents all muslims.

Is the statement "he is representative of White Supremists" really that hard to grasp ? I didn't say he represents all white people. I think some read into things what they want.

When you latch onto something you REALLY latch onto it!

I provided you with some very good examples of the absurdity of painting people with a large brush.

If you still can't see that the brush you used to paint that picture is unfairly wide, then I can't help you.

If you can't see that your example was nothing close to what I said, then so be it. (My brush only painted the neo-nazis and white supremacists) 

So, if I say that Omar Mateen represents all muslims.

Then I am correct.

[3fan4life]

Ya'll wanna feel old?

The kid that did this was born in 1997... The same year as the Valkyrie (I know, the '97 models showed up in '96, but work with me here...)

Well to be fair he was probably being manufactured in 1996. 

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Wasn't this started over the removal of the General Lee statue in Va?

From what I've read yes it was because of the removal of the statue. The state gov. are responsible for this an now they said they will be removing more. It just never stops.