Its starting to break

[Robert]

Well looks like its finally happening this new memo that needs to be released to the public is starting to drain the swamp if released. It will explain collusion, manipulation and election interference and maybe even get rid of the Mueller investigation. We are starting to see the proof in a false FISA warrant and false accusation against Trump by those loyal to Hillary. It also is starting to tie together the figures involved in distorting the government and the election process.

We definitely live in some interesting times to see all that is going on below the level of the normal government operations. There is so much happening

BREAKING NEWS TRUMP 1/19/18 RELEASE THE MEMO, TRUMP, ROBERT MUELLER, RUSSIA INVESTIGATION
https://youtu.be/9lnzWCAfjlg?t=8m45s

Fisa Document Could Lead to Jail for Many!
https://youtu.be/d3kI8UNf1KI?t=18s

Release the memo

202 224 3121


First Lady Melania Trump Visits with Military Families in Anchorage, Alaska
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DTGeFQsBYM

First Lady Melania Trump Visits Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE-OCualeVw

[f6john]

I just wonder how the memo will be spun by the Democrats. We all know that the opposing party will stand outside at high noon and tell you that the sun is not shining. I have never believed that Trump had any collusion with any foreign government to affect the election. I would be willing to accept his guilt and admit my folly indisputable proof but none has been forthcoming. I have come to realize that millions of Americans just don’t like the man for their own personal reasons which is their privilege.

I watched Rod Reiner on Fox last night and he made it clear that he just doesn’t like the man and his perception of how Trump treats other people. He related a story about where he watch Trump climbing the steps into Air Force One while it was raining and he had an umbrella and Baron and Melania were following in the rain without protection. He says Trump is a racist. I don’t see it, his actions speak louder that words even if he did not make sure his family had an umbrella. It appears to me he is putting America and it’s citizens first with every move he makes.

[Gavin_Sons]

Yeah I have been following this pretty close. Sounds like if released many democrats will probably go into hiding or skip the country. I would be embarrassed to be associated with the democratic party right about now.

[Alpha Dog]

I have been well aware of the Deep State forces attempting a Coup d' etat on Trump since January of last year.  However it has been in the recent months that so many pieces have fallen into place, thanks in large part to the great investigative work of Sarah Carter of Circa News and John Solomon.  Their are others also but Sarah has been magnificent.  And Devin Nunez head of the House Intelligence has been working diligently to find the truth, thank God. I Heads had better roll.

[The emperor has no clothes]

  And Devin Nunez head of the House Intelligence has been working diligently to find the truth

surely that was a joke ?

[baldo]

  And Devin Nunez head of the House Intelligence has been working diligently to find the truth

surely that was a joke ?

[Serk]

  And Devin Nunez head of the House Intelligence has been working diligently to find the truth

surely that was a joke ?

I'm glad you find humor in a sitting president using the FBI and other intelligence resources to collude with foreign agents to dig up or if they can't find anything create dirt on a political opponent and American citizen.

I don't find that humorous at all.

[The emperor has no clothes]

  And Devin Nunez head of the House Intelligence has been working diligently to find the truth

surely that was a joke ?

I'm glad you find humor in a sitting president using the FBI and other intelligence resources to collude with foreign agents to dig up or if they can't find anything create dirt on a political opponent and American citizen.

I don't find that humorous at all.

My response was in response to AD's statement about Nunez. Nothing more.

[Alpha Dog]

  And Devin Nunez head of the House Intelligence has been working diligently to find the truth

surely that was a joke ?

HO ho, he he, haw haw.  Typical response from the uniformed.  Oh well.  World needs ostriches also.

[The emperor has no clothes]

  And Devin Nunez head of the House Intelligence has been working diligently to find the truth

surely that was a joke ?

HO ho, he he, haw haw.  Typical response from the uniformed.  Oh well.  World needs ostriches also.

I've been out of my uniform since 1982. 

[Willow]

  And Devin Nunez head of the House Intelligence has been working diligently to find the truth

surely that was a joke ?

..

HO ho, he he, haw haw.  Typical response from the uniformed.  Oh well.  World needs ostriches also.

I've been out of my uniform since 1982. 

Yes, and baldo has never been uniformed.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

  And Devin Nunez head of the House Intelligence has been working diligently to find the truth

surely that was a joke ?

..

HO ho, he he, haw haw.  Typical response from the uniformed.  Oh well.  World needs ostriches also.

I've been out of my uniform since 1982. 

Yes, and baldo has never been uniformed.   

Doesn't this count ?

[Pappy!]

  And Devin Nunez head of the House Intelligence has been working diligently to find the truth

surely that was a joke ?

..

HO ho, he he, haw haw.  Typical response from the uniformed.  Oh well.  World needs ostriches also.

I've been out of my uniform since 1982. 

Yes, and baldo has never been uniformed.   

Lol....where's a pic of the Village People when ya' need one !

[Jess from VA]

And this one never gets old.

[Chrisj CMA]

And this one never gets old.

Priceless

[The emperor has no clothes]

And this one never gets old.

You need to update your chart Jess. 

[Serk]

Fire up the helicopters, I'm ready for that one...

[Chrisj CMA]

Gee, them Trump pictures don’t look shopped at all     

[The emperor has no clothes]

Gee, them Trump pictures don’t look shopped at all     

It's hard to get a real pic when the guy has had 4 deferrals. 

[98valk]

Gee, them Trump pictures don’t look shopped at all     

It's hard to get a real pic when the guy has had 4 deferrals. 

and so did 1000s upon 1000s of other young men who were in college also. So what is your point?

[Robert]

“The audience of this document should not be limited to Members of Congress — the American people deserve to know the information it contains.”

On Thursday, the Intelligence Committee voted along party lines — Republicans supported and Democrats opposed — to release a four-page memo alleging abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act under the Obama administration.

As a side note

Clinton Had Detailed Knowledge Of Email Server Security Risks, Emails Show

Then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had detailed knowledge about the security vulnerabilities involved in continuing to use her personal email despite claims that she didn’t really “stop and think” about the email system she was planning to use, newly released State Department emails show.

[f6john]

At least we once again have a President who respects and supports the military.

[98valk]

At least we once again have a President who respects and supports the military.

and most don't know that trump went to the New York Military Academy for high school.

Trump's yearbook shows he rose to the rank of supply captain. According to Beuttell, this position was "probably the third-highest-ranked cadet in the whole school."
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-high-school-classmates-what-he-was-like-2015-10

[baldo]

  And Devin Nunez head of the House Intelligence has been working diligently to find the truth

surely that was a joke ?

..

HO ho, he he, haw haw.  Typical response from the uniformed.  Oh well.  World needs ostriches also.

I've been out of my uniform since 1982. 

Yes, and baldo has never been uniformed.   

Doesn't this count ?

Those are front line uniforms. Aviation branch is different, much snappier.

[Serk]

Those are front line uniforms. Aviation branch is different, much snappier.

I just can't see purple being your color.

[baldo]

Those are front line uniforms. Aviation branch is different, much snappier.

I just can't see purple being your color.

I try to avoid it, not very slimming.....

[Robert]

OK here we go 

A former federal prosecutor says the truth is starting to seep out about the Obama Administration’s “brazen plot to exonerate Hillary Clinton” and “frame an incoming president with a false Russian conspiracy,” according to an exclusive interview with The Daily Caller News Foundation.

Joe diGenova, a former federal prosecutor, connects the dots on former Obama administration Justice Department and FBI officials who may have “violated the law, perhaps committed crimes” to politicize law enforcement and surveillance against political opponents.

The litigator also discusses the Uranium One scandal, the “tainted” Mueller special counsel investigation and the heroism of Nunes, who is under intense pressure from a united Democrat front.

DiGenova says former FBI Director James Comey conducted a fake criminal investigation of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as they “followed none of the regular rules, gave her every break in the book, immunized all kinds of people, allowed the destruction of evidence, with no grand jury, no subpoenas, no search warrants. That’s not an investigation. That’s a Potemkin village. It’s a farce.”

DiGenova condemned the FBI for working so closely with the controversial Fusion GPS, a political hit squad paid by the DNC and Clinton campaign to create and spread the discredited Steele dossier about President Donald Trump. Without a justifiable law enforcement or national security reason, he says, the FBI “created false facts so that they could get surveillance warrants. Those are all crimes.” He adds, using official FISA-702 “queries” and surveillance was done “to create a false case against a candidate, and then a president."

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/20/obama-administration-plot-exonerate-hillary/

[Hacked Valk]

As established by precedent and law it is clearly legal for the president to declassify information. in this case I hope he does so we can see what is ACTUALLY in the memo.  If the president, with the backing of the GOP fails to do this then one can only make the conclusion that all this discussion is just so much hyperbole. 

[Serk]

I think it'd be be great to see President Trump officially declassify it as he's being driven to the houses of congress to deliver his State of the Union, and then read it out loud as the opening of his speech.

...and being the master troll that he is (And I mean that in the best sense of the word!) I could almost see him do that too...

[Hacked Valk]

That works for me. Whatever.  Let's just find out the actual truth instead of the made up truth from you tube videos.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Come on . The Daily Caller ?

[Savago]

I think this posts are quite... interesting.

Quick question: what Trump has to do for the loyalists finally drop the support for him?

I have the impression that the *only* thing that could make his supporters to change their mind would be a major financial crisis (something like the realstate meltdown thanks to Bush) or maybe when Paul Ryan comes for the medicare and social security.

A short list:
a) Disrespect the military's families ..... check!
b) Disrespect women ......................... check!
c) Undermine the free press ............... check!
d) Divide the country ......................... check!
e) Nepotism ...................................... check!
f) Out-of-marriage relations ............... check!
g) Lying to the public ......................... check!
h) Collusion with the enemy ............... check!
i) Racism ........................................ check!
j) Shady business dealing ................... check!
l) Threatening alliances with key allies ............. check!
m) Golfing instead of working ............... check!
n) Creating opportunity for China increase it's world's influence ... check!
o) Undermining democracy ...................... check!
p) Twitting matters of State ..................... check!
q) Obstruction of Justice .......................... check!

The list is almost never ending...

One or two items of this list would be enough to cause the ruin of other presidents. It seems that with a percentage of the American population (20% or 30%?), Trump has a free pass to do whatever.

The worst: so much of the damage is self-inflicted. It is almost he is looking for creating daily scandals to boost the audience, like in a TV show.

When this is all over (it won't last forever), the Presidency importance will be diminished and so the status of USA in the world.

[Valker]

I think this posts are quite... interesting.

Quick question: what Obama or Hillary has to do for the loyalists finally drop the support for him?

I have the impression that the *only* thing that could make his supporters to change their mind would be a major financial crisis (something like the realstate meltdown thanks to Bush) or maybe when Pelosi comes for the medicare and social security.

A short list:
a) Disrespect the military's families ..... check!
b) Disrespect women ......................... check!
c) Undermine the free press ............... check!
d) Divide the country ......................... check!
e) Nepotism ...................................... check!
f) Out-of-marriage relations ............... check!
g) Lying to the public ......................... check!
h) Collusion with the enemy ............... check!
i) Racism ........................................ check!
j) Shady business dealing ................... check!
l) Threatening alliances with key allies ............. check!
m) Golfing instead of working ............... check!
n) Creating opportunity for China increase it's world's influence ... check!
o) Undermining democracy ...................... check!
p) Twitting matters of State ..................... check!

The list is almost never ending...

One or two items of this list would be enough to cause the ruin of other presidents. It seems that with a percentage of the American population (20% or 30%?), Obama has a free pass to do whatever.

The worst: so much of the damage is Simply ignored. It is almost he is ignoring for creating daily scandals to boost the audience, like in a TV show.

When this is all over (it won't last forever), the Presidency importance will be diminished and so the status of USA in the world.

Maybe this fixes it.

[Savago]

@Valker: kind of canned 'whataboutery' answer, no?

But I see that you agree with me on the realstate crisis thanks to Bush... I guess I'm in something here (i.e it is all about the economy).

In any case, even if you absolutely hate Obama/Hillary, you can't possibly support everything Trump does (i.e. golfing, twitting, nepotism, etc)?

[The emperor has no clothes]

@Valker: kind of canned 'whataboutery' answer, no?

But I see that you agree with me on the realstate crisis thanks to Bush... I guess I'm in something here (i.e it is all about the economy).

In any case, even if you absolutely hate Obama/Hillary, you can't possibly support everything Trump does (i.e. golfing, twitting, nepotism, etc)?

Savago, you gave me some advice the other day that was prophetic.   you are not going to get thru. There is something we are just going to have to accept about Trump. He understands his base better than any career politician could ever hope to. He knew it 2 years ago. (I suspect he knew it back years ago when he jumped on the Birther train) He truly could shoot someone on 5th Ave.

[f6john]

@Valker: kind of canned 'whataboutery' answer, no?

But I see that you agree with me on the realstate crisis thanks to Bush... I guess I'm in something here (i.e it is all about the economy).

In any case, even if you absolutely hate Obama/Hillary, you can't possibly support everything Trump does (i.e. golfing, twitting, nepotism, etc)?

Oh God no, he golfs!!!!

[f6john]

@Valker: kind of canned 'whataboutery' answer, no?

But I see that you agree with me on the realstate crisis thanks to Bush... I guess I'm in something here (i.e it is all about the economy).

In any case, even if you absolutely hate Obama/Hillary, you can't possibly support everything Trump does (i.e. golfing, twitting, nepotism, etc)?

Savago, you gave me some advice the other day that was prophetic.  you are not going toget thru. There is something we are just going to accept about Trump. He understands his base better than any career politician could ever hope to. He knew it 2 years ago. (I suspect he knew it back years ago when he jumped on the Birther train) He truly could shoot someone on 5th Ave.

He understands the American public in general. I don’t think it is any surprise to him that a lot of people don’t like him. He doesn’t care and he is not going to bow down to the media or the critics. It appears he is going to keep chipping away and delivering on as many promises as he can.

[Robert]

I think this posts are quite... interesting.

Quick question: what Trump has to do for the loyalists finally drop the support for him?

Actions speak louder than words.

In the Obama presidency, I will use the bail out/market crash as a example. Obama said he established help for those loosing their house, money, counseling, mediation between people and banks would stop the banks from foreclosing and get the homeowner funds to help keep his house or at least renegotiate the mortgage so they could keep it. Well there was nothing and I mean nothing, even the website he made said there was nothing they could do . The wealthy did get money to use interest free though and they didnt even have to pay it back. I had many people I knew loose their houses and even if they had some money to try to negotiate with the banks they would not hear of it and foreclosed anyway. Obama also did give the banks money to help them by the way.

Health care was ruled a tax by the Supreme Court and was the biggest tax increase in history and it raised my taxes by 1000.00 PER MONTH this is Obamas legacy. Even when the dems had it pushed back as a tax increase did nothing to mitigate the damage to US families.

Now we have Trump come in and talk all harsh so as to get your ire up in his talking. But he has lowered taxes, Obama raised them, people have gotten a bonus because of the tax break, businesses have come back to the US like Apple as an example. The coal industry has opened 5 mines that were shuttered under Obama. The US also does not have to pay for the Paris accord and for Nafta and Trump has already saved the US millions of dollars and is knocking down excess expenditures all while enduring blistering attacks.

Now which do I want the first example of someone that talks well but does nothing or The second that may talk bad but so far has shown congress is a bunch of lame ducks, put money in peoples pockets, shrunk the Federal bill for governing and many more things to bolster the US.

I will choose the second, and with this government shutdown highlighting what is important to the dems I am surprised that you cannot see the truth. DACA did not have to be agreed upon till March and that was the only sticking point so why shut down the government and while we are talking about the military who will be hurt in the shutdown, the military.

I doubt you will see any of what I am saying so we will have to agree to disagree. I will say this to you if Trump starts to pull the same stuff that Obama pulled I will be one of the ones that will be saying hes not doing his job or keeping his promise, but for now lets make America great again.

Let me also ask you with all the information coming out about Hillary, Bill, Lynch,Comey, and a host of others that prove beyond a reasonable doubt they lied, and performed many acts to get arrested for yet because of friends and connections did not, and now we are finally seeing the truth come out, and you were going to vote or did vote for this crime syndicate that already did more than all the things you mentioned about Trump,

  Whats your feeling on this?  

I would think you would say it was terrible and want to distance yourself as far as possible from this whole thing and renounce it as evil, corrupt, vile since you seem to stand on a morality podium.

Because if not then that is truly the pot calling the kettle black and not heading your own advice and is the true definition of Hypocrisy or maybe worse in that this type of blind devotion, that the left accuses Trumps supporters of having is actually a self inflicted psychosis and not allowing them to see a corrupt and devious party they belong to and see Trump only as the source of all their problems and its got a name, Trump derangement syndrome.

We have to pass the bill to find out whats in it, of course we lied who would pass the bill otherwise, I have a pen and I have a phone. WOW I could go into many more Obama sayings and doing, remember when Michelle Obama said all this fuss over a dam flag? 


He golfs at his own resorts, He gives his pay away, his family supports him and helps him which is what the US was supposed be built on FAMILIES HELPING ONE ANOTHER. I am happy he has all these outlets since if he didn't with all the attacks I dont know how he could stand it.

Unlike Obama's kids that do nothing and actually got arrested, Trump has kids that know business and know a fight and I would be proud if I were Trump to see my family rally around me like that and have the skill sets that allowed them to step on to an international stage of running a country without the so called politicians training, THANK GOD.  I honestly dont know of any millennial that could just step into running a country like they did or at least running a business to help their father run the country.

I know of many wealthy families that run big privately owned corporations and I can say that the problems they face because of the losers in the family are many. But Trumps family is every bit up to the task it seems. Heck how many movie star families are train wrecks and you criticize Trump having family around.

I would question anyone here is your kids and family up to the task of helping you run a business much less a country, are you that unified that you could do it? I dont know many that could say yes.

[Valker]

@Valker: kind of canned 'whataboutery' answer, no?

But I see that you agree with me on the realstate crisis thanks to Bush... I guess I'm in something here (i.e it is all about the economy).

In any case, even if you absolutely hate Obama/Hillary, you can't possibly support everything Trump does (i.e. golfing, twitting, nepotism, etc)?

Canned? Yes. whataboutary? Not really. Actually, I didn't like what Bush 2 did for the Muslims in the texas penal system, so there is that. I really think the real estate crapola was congress' fault by allowing the banks to build that house of cards. Support Trump-he doesn't seem to need my support, but Golfing? Every working person deserves some time off. What they do with that time is irrelevant to me. Tweeting? I think its purpose is to distract the press from what he is actually doing, plus I actually like his lack of political savvy and ability to directly talk to people. Nepotism? He has a lot of family around, but his brother isn't secretary of state. It's not like that is new or not to be expected. I usually am Libertarian, but I currently grade Trump higher for what he's doing for America than any recent President (recent being since Eisenhower).

[baldo]

@Valker: kind of canned 'whataboutery' answer, no?

But I see that you agree with me on the realstate crisis thanks to Bush... I guess I'm in something here (i.e it is all about the economy).

In any case, even if you absolutely hate Obama/Hillary, you can't possibly support everything Trump does (i.e. golfing, twitting, nepotism, etc)?

Canned? Yes. whataboutary? Not really. Actually, I didn't like what Bush 2 did for the Muslims in the texas penal system, so there is that. I really think the real estate crapola was congress' fault by allowing the banks to build that house of cards. Support Trump-he doesn't seem to need my support, but Golfing? Every working person deserves some time off. What they do with that time is irrelevant to me. Tweeting? I think its purpose is to distract the press from what he is actually doing, plus I actually like his lack of political savvy and ability to directly talk to people. Nepotism? He has a lot of family around, but his brother isn't secretary of state. It's not like that is new or not to be expected. I usually am Libertarian, but I currently grade Trump higher for what he's doing for America than any recent President (recent being since Eisenhower).

I don't begrudge anyone tie off. But this fool has taken it to atmospheric levels. He's rapidlY approaching ONE HUNDRED DAYS spent at one of his signature properties, which surprisingly happen to be golf courses/ And WE, that includes everyone on this board, ar paying for it. With OUR tax dollars. I don't know the number, why keep track anymore?

Everytime he heads south, he loads up AF1 with his entourage. the SS loads up all the equipment needed to keep him safe. Hundreds, hell, maybe thousands of people are being paid so the porcine one can enjoy his time on the links. It gives me a warm fuzzy every time I see that he's enjoying himself on our dime.
And he HAS THE BALLS to say Obama played too much golf. This guy has spent over 26% of his FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE AWAY FROM THE OFFICE! Doesn't that bother anyone here? Especially after his line of bullshit during the campaign that he'd be "too busy doing the peoples' work" to play golf.

Don't EVER say that he's doing the work of the people. He's in it for one thing only....HIMSELF.