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Best Adhesive to attach mount to dash. Thanks solved!

Started by 97BLKVALK, Sat 10, Mar 2018, 11:39:44

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97BLKVALK

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

1997 GL1500C - Black
1997 GL1500C - Purple
1997 GL1500C - Bumble Bee
1998 GL1500C - Blue and Cream

Jess from VA

Sorry for being thick, but what is your dash?

Gavin_Sons

Try a slow drying 2 part epoxy.  The slower it cures the more permanent it will be. I have found that a 4 hour epoxy works well for most of my needs. A guyat works makes knives and uses it for the handles.  He said he uses a 10 hour epoxy.

97BLKVALK

Quote from: Jess from VA on Sat 10, Mar 2018, 12:16:36
Sorry for being thick, but what is your dash?

I was trying to see if other valkyrie riders could read my post writing and what my mind was thinking at the same time...lol.  ;D ;D

Vinyl

Michael
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

1997 GL1500C - Black
1997 GL1500C - Purple
1997 GL1500C - Bumble Bee
1998 GL1500C - Blue and Cream

Jess from VA

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Quote from: 97BLKVALK on Sat 10, Mar 2018, 13:41:34
Quote from: Jess from VA on Sat 10, Mar 2018, 12:16:36
Sorry for being thick, but what is your dash?

I was trying to see if other valkyrie riders could read my post writing and what my mind was thinking at the same time...lol.  ;D ;D

Vinyl

Michael

Michael, I'm still confused.  What Valkyrie has a vinyl dashboard?  You mean the inside of an interstate fairing?  A vinyl tank bib?  

Reason I ask,  I'm not sure I'd ever want an expensive piece of electronics glued to vinyl.  If I knew exactly what you wanted to attach it to, I might have a better idea than glue/epoxy.  For instance, many mount such things to a RAM mount on the handlebars or the Valk riser single top clamp.  I've had a RAM mount, and mounted several small things to the inside of my interstate faring with small screws, inside out.  Others stick their electronics inside a tank bib pouch.

97BLKVALK

This is not Valk related.  This mount will go in my 2004 Audi
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

1997 GL1500C - Black
1997 GL1500C - Purple
1997 GL1500C - Bumble Bee
1998 GL1500C - Blue and Cream

signart

Use 3M VHB (very high bond) tape, it's not gonna go anywhere.

97BLKVALK

Quote from: signart on Sat 10, Mar 2018, 14:42:20
Use 3M VHB (very high bond) tape, it's not gonna go anywhere.

Where can that tape be found?  Will it adhere to textured vinyl dash?
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

1997 GL1500C - Black
1997 GL1500C - Purple
1997 GL1500C - Bumble Bee
1998 GL1500C - Blue and Cream

ricoman

here's a site with good info
http://www.thistothat.com/cgi-bin/glue.cgi?lang=en&this=Metal&that=Plastic

just be sure both mating surfaces are clean (lacquer thinner will do that)

I have also used the 3M tape, but again-clean both surfaces real good
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signart

Quote from: 97BLKVALK on Sat 10, Mar 2018, 15:09:35
Quote from: signart on Sat 10, Mar 2018, 14:42:20
Use 3M VHB (very high bond) tape, it's not gonna go anywhere.

Where can that tape be found?  Will it adhere to textured vinyl dash?

It will stick to textured vinyl very well, after cleaning both surfaces with lacquer thinner. Amazon will hook you up. You can get by with 1/2" width roll just lay it in rows on your device, then trim with x-acto before you remove the tape backing. I would take heat gun or hair dryer and warm up the surface before application. I'd recommend not using the clear VHB, use the foam type, it will conform to the grain in the vinyl. It's not your regular foam tape, this is made for exterior applications.
I secure hems on vinyl canvas for outdoor banners all the time.

Atl-Jerry

In 2003 I bought a Jeep Wrangler with a fiberglass hard top.  I ordered a GPS mount that already had the double sided tape on it and they said it created a permanent bond, just peel and stick, although I had my doubts.  I attached it to the underside of the roof just above the rear view mirror and 15 years later it is still there, it never budged even with the sun blasting it from the other side.  Sometimes this stuff works.

Raider

I would try shoe goo.  Hard to beat that stuff for this type of thing.

¿spoom

Yup, the foam 3M VHB is the way to go. Check out McMaster-Carr for all the different varieties. Some even require an activator, but with proper prep you can stick a mushroom to a hard boiled egg  ;)

97BLKVALK

Quote from: ¿spoom on Sun 11, Mar 2018, 20:45:28
Yup, the foam 3M VHB is the way to go. Check out McMaster-Carr for all the different varieties. Some even require an activator, but with proper prep you can stick a mushroom to a hard boiled egg  ;)

Hmmm have you tried it...lol   thanks for the info
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

1997 GL1500C - Black
1997 GL1500C - Purple
1997 GL1500C - Bumble Bee
1998 GL1500C - Blue and Cream

¿spoom

Quote from: 97BLKVALK on Sun 11, Mar 2018, 22:16:56
Quote from: ¿spoom on Sun 11, Mar 2018, 20:45:28
Yup, the foam 3M VHB is the way to go. Check out McMaster-Carr for all the different varieties. Some even require an activator, but with proper prep you can stick a mushroom to a hard boiled egg  ;)

Hmmm have you tried it...lol   thanks for the info
No, but the salesman said... ;) Seriously, they make a lot of different versions of the Very High Bond (VHB) double-sided stuff, sheets, rolls, foam, etc. Probably the most common usage is the chromed plastic lettering (and little car dealer plates) attached to car/trucks, I worked for a place that was a parts supplier to GM and we switched one assembly from a sonic welded plastic part to one held by a double-sided VHB rubber rectangle. Had them die-cut by some private supplier that stamped 'em out by the thousands from a giant 2" wide roll that looked to be around a mile long. Due to the vibration, it'd probably be best to go with a very thin foam variety, maybe the thickness of a penny. If you're going to be mounting something with buttons you have to press, maybe contact 3M for a recommendation on what to use. Been probably 20 years since I dealt with this stuff, but 3M used to be very good about application advice. Maybe check for a current email address or phone number for consumer service.     

Gryphon Rider

I would not clean with lacquer thinner. It very well could do damage. A little water with dish soap first, then isopropyl alcohol.

VHB will definitely hold, but because it's harder to find, I would try 3M emblem tape, which should be available from most auto parts stores, and is very good stuff.

¿spoom

Quote from: Gryphon Rider on Mon 12, Mar 2018, 13:48:46
I would not clean with lacquer thinner. It very well could do damage. A little water with dish soap first, then isopropyl alcohol.

VHB will definitely hold, but because it's harder to find, I would try 3M emblem tape, which should be available from most auto parts stores, and is very good stuff.
Good point, I forgot to mention that. Also forgot that most any good auto body shop should have both VHB, the emblem tape and/or probably whatever else has been invented in the last decade or two, as well as the prep materials to get it done. Compared to buying a whole roll/sheet etc, just driving up to a shop with it in your hand and asking "How much to do this all permanent-like?" may be the way to go. Annnnd, if it falls off, you can go back and ask if they have a Plan B?  :cooldude:

SCain

Steve

Gryphon Rider

This stuff (1/2" wide) is $7.49 at the Fargo Chief Auto Parts.  You can get 7/8" wide for $10.49.  Likely similar prices at any auto parts store:


97BLKVALK

Thank you all for the great information!  :cooldude:

Michael
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

1997 GL1500C - Black
1997 GL1500C - Purple
1997 GL1500C - Bumble Bee
1998 GL1500C - Blue and Cream

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Gryphon Rider on Mon 12, Mar 2018, 15:37:15
This stuff (1/2" wide) is $7.49 at the Fargo Chief Auto Parts.  You can get 7/8" wide for $10.49.  Likely similar prices at any auto parts store:


I don't recall packaging in Canada with Spanish. Now English, French, and Spanish on everything ?

Gryphon Rider

Quote from: meathead on Tue 13, Mar 2018, 18:46:16
Quote from: Gryphon Rider on Mon 12, Mar 2018, 15:37:15
This stuff (1/2" wide) is $7.49 at the Fargo Chief Auto Parts.  You can get 7/8" wide for $10.49.  Likely similar prices at any auto parts store:


I don't recall packaging in Canada with Spanish. Now English, French, and Spanish on everything ?
Canadians have this awesome thing called the interweb, with which we can retrieve information from pretty much anywhere in the world! I used it to learn about an auto parts store in 97BLKVALK's area, and the store provided me with a picture of the product they sell. Why they have English and French on something sold in the US when Spanish would be sufficient is a mystery to me.  :angel:

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Gryphon Rider on Tue 13, Mar 2018, 22:41:23
Quote from: meathead on Tue 13, Mar 2018, 18:46:16
Quote from: Gryphon Rider on Mon 12, Mar 2018, 15:37:15
This stuff (1/2" wide) is $7.49 at the Fargo Chief Auto Parts.  You can get 7/8" wide for $10.49.  Likely similar prices at any auto parts store:


I don't recall packaging in Canada with Spanish. Now English, French, and Spanish on everything ?
Canadians have this awesome thing called the interweb, with which we can retrieve information from pretty much anywhere in the world! I used it to learn about an auto parts store in 97BLKVALK's area, and the store provided me with a picture of the product they sell. Why they have English and French on something sold in the US when Spanish would be sufficient is a mystery to me.  :angel:
;D you guys have internet service up there ?  :o

signart

Quote from: Gryphon Rider on Mon 12, Mar 2018, 15:37:15
This stuff (1/2" wide) is $7.49 at the Fargo Chief Auto Parts.  You can get 7/8" wide for $10.49.  Likely similar prices at any auto parts store:



There's your VHB. Shelf life will deter initial stickiness, but warm the surface before you apply it and it will restore the adhesion. I buy it from sign suppliers in large rolls, when using fresh stock, you better place it where you mean to the first time.