News:

If you're new to this message board, read THIS!

Main Menu
Inzane 17

Kavanaugh hearing

Started by Chrisj CMA, Thu 27, Sep 2018, 17:38:28

Previous topic - Next topic

..

With conviction the middlers can pull through.

Serk

Quote from: Britman on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 22:08:29
With conviction the middlers can pull through.

The "left" have gone so extreme, that anyone to the right of Vladimir Lenin is now at least a "middler" IMHO...

Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...



IBA# 22107 
VRCC# 7976
VRCCDS# 226

1998 Valkyrie Standard
2008 Gold Wing

Taxation is theft.

μολὼν λαβέ

Psychotic Bovine

"I aim to misbehave."

Robert

#163
Dont know if anyone is interested in this stuff but body language tells much. This is a tool that used much by many governmental agencies and this woman does a narrative of Blasey's testimony. Its interesting and may help explain some things that some may have questions about. Starts slow but as it moves on it gets more narrative.

Whats also interesting about her testimony there was no facts so that she could not be brought up of charges of lying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGxr1VQ2dPI
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Gavin_Sons

Quote from: meathead on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 20:43:27
Quote from: Willow on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 20:31:51
Quote from: meathead on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 18:34:15
Quote from: f6gal on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 18:24:57
Quote from: meathead on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 18:15:47
Connie, how is somebody posting something on whichever social media platform about her, evidence of anything ?

I have no idea if it's true.  I never said it was evidence of anything.  I was simply responding to Willow's request (who says there's no free lunch?).

It is odd, however, that her FB page was scrubbed just prior to making her accusation against Kavanaugh.  Perhaps the FBI ought to ferret out her page before she scrubbed it... if that is even possible.... Serk is that possible?
I think they should also. You are right, you didn't say it was evidence. Willow did.

Meathead, it may be time for you to take a step back.  You are becoming adept at twisting words and quoting falsely.  I did not call it "evidence".  I simply stated that it had been reported.  If she actually did post that, and if it were proven, that would certainly be evidence.  Do I believe it?  Yes.  Has it been proven beyond doubt?  Not to my knowledge.  Does that make it not possible?  No.

Dr. Ford has exactly zero evidence of her claim.  Zero.  Yet you and others jump to believe her despite contradicting claims.  How do you make sense of that?  
You have a pm.

You can't respond to the board as a whole? You demand answeres from others but will not give any answers of your own. Probably because you have none.

..

Quote from: Gavin_Sons on Sun 30, Sep 2018, 06:00:15



You are becoming adept at twisting words and quoting falsely.  



You demand answeres from others but will not give any answers of your own.

:cooldude:

98valk

Quote from: Robert on Sun 30, Sep 2018, 05:25:07
Dont know if anyone is interested in this stuff but body language tells much. This is a tool that used much by many governmental agencies and this woman does a narrative of Blasey's testimony. Its interesting and may help explain some things that some may have questions about. Starts slow but as it moves on it gets more narrative.

Whats also interesting about her testimony there was no facts so that she could not be brought up of charges of lying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGxr1VQ2dPI

Ford slipped and said that Feinstein would hold her letter until right before the hearing. This refutes her desire to remain anonymous and reveals some plan to have a hearing the whole time!
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Chrisj CMA

Dr Ford only lied about a few small things, couldn't remember lots of big things but everything else is to be believed because she was so emotional as she delivered her lines.  :uglystupid2:

MAD6Gun

Quote from: Willow on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 20:42:21
Quote from: MAD6Gun on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 20:22:43
... This nothing but a stall tactic by the dems to delay the vote plain and simple.

You seem to be selling the strategy short.  Yes, it is a stall tactic but it is also leverage for the midterms.  If the Republican senators go past her accusation, even though it has no supporting evidence, they can play it as Republicans are not sensitive to the needs of victimized women.  Even some of our own members insist on referring to her as a sexual assault victim despite it's a claim based solely on her own word.

A portion of the country is solidly committed to the left.  A portion is solidly committed to the right.  It's that small group uncommitted in the middle for which both sides will compete.  

After the Ford/Kavanagh hearings I thought they should just go ahead and vote but that didn't happen because of Flake. So let the FBI do their thing and when they find no evidence then vote. But I suspect if this doesn't work the dems will find another way to stop it. My opinion is if this continues the dems "blue wave" will be nothing but a little ripple. Sure the diehard dems will still vote for these idiots but I suspect the more centered will not.

MAD6Gun

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Sun 30, Sep 2018, 07:22:23
Dr Ford only lied about a few small things, couldn't remember lots of big things but everything else is to be believed because she was so emotional as she delivered her lines.  :uglystupid2:

I agree Jeff. Besides if this incident had changed her life to the point she couldn't function why would she need a scipt to read from to tell her story?  I would think the facts would be seared in her brain.  But since she can't remember when,where,who was there,how she got there and home but is 100% Kavanagh did it. Yeah seams logical to me.....

Rams

Quote from: f6gal on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 18:05:29
Quote from: Willow on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 17:39:46
f6gal, I owe you a lunch.   :cooldude:

Her FB page was scrubbed just prior to making her accusation against Kavanaugh.  

I'm curious.   Have been told that everything is recoverable.   Is that true with FB?

Rams
VRCC# 29981
Learning the majority of life's lessons the hard way.

Every trip is an adventure, enjoy it while it lasts.

98valk

and at one point she stated her mind was tired when she started to not be clear in her answer. only people who are trying to keep everything straight when lying get tired. reason interrogators keep asking same question over again at different times. liars can't keep their story straight unless they are a very good pathological liar or trained to do so like her profession.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Pete

Quote from: Rams on Sun 30, Sep 2018, 07:42:40
Quote from: f6gal on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 18:05:29
Quote from: Willow on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 17:39:46
f6gal, I owe you a lunch.   :cooldude:

Her FB page was scrubbed just prior to making her accusation against Kavanaugh.  

I'm curious.   Have been told that everything is recoverable.   Is that true with FB?

Rams
www.wayback.com may have some of it.
Backups of FB will have it, but only FB has access to that and I suspect would not share it.

Jersey mike

Something other than Mrs. Fords testimony bothers me here.

It's the use of funding websites. These are basically open bank accounts to funnel funds from anyone to anyone willing to make an accusation. Anonymous payoffs going into the pockets of anyone willing to step forward and make an accusation of any type.

This could be a door opening moment here.

https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=homepage_norma/search&term=Christine%20Blasey%20Ford%20

MP

Amazing that WE are told we need EVIDENCE to back up our claims, yet those same people accept all the accusers words as true, with ZERO evidence. In fact, all the witnesses Ford names, all disagree that they saw or know anything!

"Ridin' with Cycho"

..

Quote from: Jersey mike on Sun 30, Sep 2018, 09:20:59
Something other than Mrs. Fords testimony bothers me here.

It's the use of funding websites. These are basically open bank accounts to funnel funds from anyone to anyone willing to make an accusation. Anonymous payoffs going into the pockets of anyone willing to step forward and make an accusation of any type.

This could be a door opening moment here.

https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=homepage_norma/search&term=Christine%20Blasey%20Ford%20

Wouldn't it be nice to see where the $$$'s go and to whom.

Are these donations taxable?

MAD6Gun

Quote from: Britman on Sun 30, Sep 2018, 10:26:40
Quote from: Jersey mike on Sun 30, Sep 2018, 09:20:59
Something other than Mrs. Fords testimony bothers me here.

It's the use of funding websites. These are basically open bank accounts to funnel funds from anyone to anyone willing to make an accusation. Anonymous payoffs going into the pockets of anyone willing to step forward and make an accusation of any type.

This could be a door opening moment here.

https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=homepage_norma/search&term=Christine%20Blasey%20Ford%20

Wouldn't it be nice to see where the $$$'s go and to whom.

Are these donations taxable?

I suspect it will go to some future book deal.

Rams

Quote from: Pete on Sun 30, Sep 2018, 09:18:01
Quote from: Rams on Sun 30, Sep 2018, 07:42:40
Quote from: f6gal on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 18:05:29
Quote from: Willow on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 17:39:46
f6gal, I owe you a lunch.   :cooldude:

Her FB page was scrubbed just prior to making her accusation against Kavanaugh.  

I'm curious.   Have been told that everything is recoverable.   Is that true with FB?

Rams
www.wayback.com may have some of it.
Backups of FB will have it, but only FB has access to that and I suspect would not share it.

I would think such evidence would be appropriate to this FBI investigation and worthy of a court order to have Facebook produce it. If nothing else just to prove or disapprove intent.

Rams
VRCC# 29981
Learning the majority of life's lessons the hard way.

Every trip is an adventure, enjoy it while it lasts.

f6john

I imagine Diane Feinstein or Spartacus could give us answerof why that just isn't possible or fair!



Pappy!

Dreaming here.... but what would be amazing is that, if Kav is not confirmed, fire Sessions and put him in as the new AG!
Talk about firing up the base !!

Patrick

I understand the FBI has interviewed the second accuser. I suggested on one of those liberal forums that the only way the FBI could conduct this investigation within a week was to waterboard everyone in a cold room. You can imagine how they liked that.

Patrick

#181
98Valk, I think there was another post regarding an article by a Dr. regarding the mental state of liberals. Now I can't find it. I was going to irritate some of the other liberals some more.

Skinhead

#182
Quote from: meathead on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 15:45:04
Quote from: Psychotic Bovine on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 15:21:38
Quote from: meathead on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 14:39:02
You are willing to call someone mentally impaired, but are not willing to provide any evidence for it ? I thought lawyers dealt in facts ?

I think he just doesn't want to get into a debate with you about it, since no amount of facts will ever change your mind.  You hate Trump, you hate everyone associated with Trump, and the enemy of your enemy is automatically your friend.
You see, I feel you have an earned reputation as arguing just for the sake of arguing.  
I think if a person is going to call some crazy or mentally impaired with no evidence presented, they really aren't much of a lawyer. But, that's just me.

Dude,. What ever happened to the right to have an opinion?  Jess isn't determining her legal state of mind, just stating his opinion.

Friendsville, TN - Troy, MI

Gavin_Sons

Quote from: Skinhead on Mon 01, Oct 2018, 07:16:53
Quote from: meathead on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 15:45:04
Quote from: Psychotic Bovine on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 15:21:38
Quote from: meathead on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 14:39:02
You are willing to call someone mentally impaired, but are not willing to provide any evidence for it ? I thought lawyers dealt in facts ?

I think he just doesn't want to get into a debate with you about it, since no amount of facts will ever change your mind.  You hate Trump, you hate everyone associated with Trump, and the enemy of your enemy is automatically your friend.
You see, I feel you have an earned reputation as arguing just for the sake of arguing. 
I think if a person is going to call some crazy or mentally impaired with no evidence presented, they really aren't much of a lawyer. But, that's just me.

Dude,. What ever happened to the right to have an opinion?  Jess isn't determining her legal state of mind, just starting his opinion.

That's ok, meathead realized he was wrong and withdrew his membership here.

Skinhead

Quote from: meathead on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 18:00:37Either my post got pulled or I didn't send it. I will attempt again. I have no idea if you are a bad lawyer or a good lawyer. But are not lawyers supposed to back up their statements with evidence ? If you truly think she is crazy or mentally impaired, why not explain such a denigrating statement ?

Really?  Have you ever actually listened to a defense attorney work a jury to try to get his client off?

Friendsville, TN - Troy, MI

..

How was it possible for 2 Harpies to corner Jeff Flake in an elevator WITH NO SECURITY NEARBY? In the US Capitol building.

2 Harpies screaming in his face.

Set up?

Don't forget it's only just over a year ago a nut job was shooting at a soft ball game.

Pete

#186
Quote from: Patrick on Mon 01, Oct 2018, 04:55:30
98Valk, I think there was another post regarding an article by a Dr. regarding the mental state of liberals. Now I can't find it. I was going to irritate some of the other liberals some more.
This link may be what you are referring to:
http://www.libertymind.com/excerpt-madness_267.html

98valk

1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

baldo

Quote from: Patrick on Mon 01, Oct 2018, 04:55:30
98Valk, I think there was another post regarding an article by a Dr. regarding the mental state of liberals. Now I can't find it. I was going to irritate some of the other liberals some more.

Now THAT'S a lofty goal.

Farside

 I suspect it will go to some future book deal.

[/quote]

BINGO!  :cooldude:  In my opinion, I'm thinking so too and not to mention profiting with the late night shows. She aired her so called traumatic experience to the world so it will be a good read to those folks who like to read those stories and of course the tabloids too. She'll also be able to add or support another study to her portfolio with a "pat on the back" from her colleagues at her liberal University. She looked like she was staged in her presentation to look younger and sound so innocent to me. I believe she had an experience but "traumatic" no.  :coolsmiley:
Farside

f6john

My first experience with a young lady was terribly traumatic for me too, so much so I've been a lesbian ever since.

G-Man

Quote from: Gavin_Sons on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 15:25:45
Quote from: Psychotic Bovine on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 15:21:38
Quote from: meathead on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 14:39:02
You are willing to call someone mentally impaired, but are not willing to provide any evidence for it ? I thought lawyers dealt in facts ?

I think he just doesn't want to get into a debate with you about it, since no amount of facts will ever change your mind.  You hate Trump, you hate everyone associated with Trump, and the enemy of your enemy is automatically your friend.
You see, I feel you have an earned reputation as arguing just for the sake of arguing. 

:cooldude: agreed

:D 

G-Man

Quote from: Gavin_Sons on Mon 01, Oct 2018, 07:26:47
Quote from: Skinhead on Mon 01, Oct 2018, 07:16:53
Quote from: meathead on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 15:45:04
Quote from: Psychotic Bovine on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 15:21:38
Quote from: meathead on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 14:39:02
You are willing to call someone mentally impaired, but are not willing to provide any evidence for it ? I thought lawyers dealt in facts ?

I think he just doesn't want to get into a debate with you about it, since no amount of facts will ever change your mind.  You hate Trump, you hate everyone associated with Trump, and the enemy of your enemy is automatically your friend.
You see, I feel you have an earned reputation as arguing just for the sake of arguing. 
I think if a person is going to call some crazy or mentally impaired with no evidence presented, they really aren't much of a lawyer. But, that's just me.

Dude,. What ever happened to the right to have an opinion?  Jess isn't determining her legal state of mind, just starting his opinion.

That's ok, meathead realized he was wrong and withdrew his membership here.

Don't toy with us.   :P


G-Man

Quote from: Willow on Sat 29, Sep 2018, 16:30:58

............ I think she is an intentional and calculating liar.  The details are carefully ambiguous enough to avoid being easily proven outright false.  



EVERYTHING regarding Kav she can remember 100%.  Makes it a She Said - He Said.

EVERYTHING regarding everything else she can't remember at all.  Too many She Said - They Said.
a) How did she get there? "Tom" drove me.  Tom says never happened.
b) It was at Mary's house.  Mary says she never had a gathering of more than 2 people at m her house during HS.
c) How did she get home?  Vinny drove me home.  Vinny says she's never been in my car.

Also, with regards to calculating........  She knew where Kav was in the different states of his / their / lives.  She said she told her story several times over the years, not actually using Kav's name, but stating his position AT THE TIME SHE TOLD THE STORY.  "He's a prominent lawyer now" "He's a federal Judge".  How did she know these things?  She was obviously following his career.  Why?

And how about Renate?  A few boys new of her willingness to be friendly 35 years ago.  Now the whole country knows.


Patrick



Robert

The deeper they go the worse it sounds for Ford.


Kavanaugh Accuser Co-Authored Study Citing Use Of Hypnosis To Retrieve Memories

Christine Blasey Ford, a California woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of attempted rape in the 1980’s, co-authored an academic study that cited the use of hypnosis as a tool to retrieve memories in traumatized patients. The academic paper, entitled “Meditation With Yoga, Group Therapy With Hypnosis, and Psychoeducation for Long-Term Depressed Mood: A Randomized Pilot Trial,” described the results of a study the tested the efficacy of certain treatments on 46 depressed individuals. The study was published by the Journal of Clinical Psychology in May 2008

“Participants also were taught self-hypnosis to use outside the group for relaxation and affect regulation (as described in H. Spiegel & Spiegel, 2004),” the researchers explained. “The group’s experiences using hypnosis were the basis for discussion in the middle of the group sessions
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

..

I just heard on local radio that Ford had previously coached someone on how to take a polygraph test.

Had a boyfriend with a single seater plane she used to fly in for fun.

Finally that the Democrats who wanted to expand the FBI investigation, upon realizing it included Ford, have asked for the investigation to be more limited in scope

¿spoom

Quote from: Britman on Wed 03, Oct 2018, 07:38:16
I just heard on local radio that Ford had previously coached someone on how to take a polygraph test.

Had a boyfriend with a single seater plane she used to fly in for fun.

Finally that the Democrats who wanted to expand the FBI investigation, upon realizing it included Ford, have asked for the investigation to be more limited in scope
"previously coached someone on how to take a polygraph test.
" that's huge, if true. Hope to hear more on that, and if it's true or false.

Gavin_Sons

Also about her front door. Said she had another front door put on her house because of this assault. This was a false statement because records show she applied for a building permit and built another room and bathroom onto her existing home for a business that included a door to said business. She lied under oath. Charge her and put her in prison.