InZane XX... edited with DATES.

[f6gal]

Additionally the graphic of the Serkle is a bit misleading as it is based upon direct distance rather than road (riding) distance.  I'm pretty sure Pennsylvania is completely excluded from the true Serkle.

No, Serk roughly calculated riding distance (as did I).  
Freeport, PA is 10 miles closer to Rowlett than is Morgantown.  But, as I said, there are no hotels there.  So, obviously, with that bit of information, PA is essentially excluded.

Oops.  Apparently not.  Freeport is not within the Serkle graphic and Pittsburgh is closer to Rowlett than is Freeport.  If Brian had used road distance the line would not be smooth.

It's a good representation, though, and it appears the top locations being considered all al within the graphic.  

Since the tool that I used previously that plots a circle based on road distance is no longer available I did a hybrid, eyeballing it as best as I could based on a few spot road distances. It's not perfect by any means...

I did say roughly.  Since I said not as the crow flies, I figured you compensated for road distance somehow.

[Mapper]

Some motorcycle routes are marked on map in red, blue, and purple.


Short review of Little River Canyon Rim ride:
https://bikernation.biz/blogs/news/69290051-little-river-canyon-rim-ride


Climo for Gadsden, AL:
https://www.usclimatedata.com/climate/gadsden/alabama/united-states/usal0222

[Willow]

That should have been New Freeport... sorry for the typo.

That does make more sense.   

[John Schmidt]

Alabama....nope, too hot. It's no better than Georgia that time of year.

[f6gal]

Alabama....nope, too hot. It's no better than Georgia that time of year.

I agree with your Alabama assessment. 

[flamingobabe #44]

I would not rule out Helen, Georgia...VOA had a ride-in there maybe around 2000

[Bighead]

Alabama....nope, too hot. It's no better than Georgia that time of year.

I agree with your Alabama assessment. 

Haters

[mbramley]

 Judging from what I have learned in my short time in this group the top 2/3's of Ohio can be eliminated even though it's in the Serkle for lack of hills and twisties.

[Mapper]

Alabama....nope, too hot. It's no better than Georgia that time of year.

I agree with your Alabama assessment.  

Haters

Gadsden, AL is about 4F warmer in JUN than Roanoke, VA (according to climatology).

If AL is too hot at avg. high of 87F in JUN, and Roanoke is not too hot at 84F, that will help us trim the "Serkle" --- we just need to find areas within that swath that fits a climo that is 85F or cooler.  

I will probably do the trip to Gadsden a different time --- looks pretty awesome to me.

I know it's unsolicited, but I can imagine it's hard to take all these things into account on your own, so I'll keep trying to find a new suggestion within those defined bounds every few weeks or so until it's determined where we're going.

[f6gal]

Alabama....nope, too hot. It's no better than Georgia that time of year.

I agree with your Alabama assessment.  

Haters

Gadsden, AL is about 4F warmer in JUN than Roanoke, VA (according to climatology).

If AL is too hot at avg. high of 87F in JUN, and Roanoke is not too hot at 84F, that will help us trim the "Serkle" --- we just need to find areas within that swath that fits a climo that is 85F or cooler.  

I will probably do the trip to Gadsden a different time --- looks pretty awesome to me.

I know it's unsolicited, but I can imagine it's hard to take all these things into account on your own, so I'll keep trying to find a new suggestion within those defined bounds every few weeks or so until it's determined where we're going. 

I'm only going by traveling through Alabama... it was hot.  I don't remember Roanoke being terribly uncomfortable. 

[f6gal]

Judging from what I have learned in my short time in this group the top 2/3's of Ohio can be eliminated even though it's in the Serkle for lack of hills and twisties.

We do like mountains and twisties.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Lacking the deducing skills, the hacking abilities, and the omnipotent powers of the NSA that our friend Serk possesses. I will close my eyes and throw a dart at the map as I did last year. Drum Roll........my guess is Charleston, West Virginia. 

[DDT (12)]

Lacking the deducing skills, the hacking abilities, and the omnipotent powers of the NSA that our friend Serk possesses. I will close my eyes and throw a dart at the map as I did last year. Drum Roll........my guess is Charleston, West Virginia. 

Rob,

Drum roll for sure, perhaps even a toot on a trumpet, too! That's a pretty good guess, I'd imagine... I'm sure you aren't far off, if it doesn't turn out to be Charleston... Certainly not a bad choice, either, and we'll enjoy that area regardless of ground zero's precise location... Looking forward to seeing you and all there... or near there!

DDT

[mbramley]

Judging from what I have learned in my short time in this group the top 2/3's of Ohio can be eliminated even though it's in the Serkle for lack of hills and twisties.

We do like mountains and twisties.

Few things in life are better

[Serk]

A question staff may or may not yet be comfortable answering, but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask:

Taking the default route via Google Maps from Rowlett, TX to the potential ground zero location, will I be adding any states to my pitiful "States I've ridden in" map?

[Willow]

A question staff may or may not yet be comfortable answering, but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask:

Taking the default route via Google Maps from Rowlett, TX to the potential ground zero location, will I be adding any states to my pitiful "States I've ridden in" map?

Yes (assuming negotiations solidify the location being considered).

I must amend my affirmative response.  Google presented me with three options.  More than one of the options would validate my answer.   

[Willow]

Lacking the deducing skills, the hacking abilities, and the omnipotent powers of the NSA that our friend Serk possesses. I will close my eyes and throw a dart at the map as I did last year. Drum Roll........my guess is Charleston, West Virginia. 

I think it is safe to say that with that dart tossed guess you will not be the first person to guess correctly.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

Lacking the deducing skills, the hacking abilities, and the omnipotent powers of the NSA that our friend Serk possesses. I will close my eyes and throw a dart at the map as I did last year. Drum Roll........my guess is Charleston, West Virginia. 

I think it is safe to say that with that dart tossed guess you will not be the first person to guess correctly.   

(I'll have to run back to Walmart for more darts)

[3fan4life]

Alabama....nope, too hot. It's no better than Georgia that time of year.

I agree with your Alabama assessment.  

Haters

Gadsden, AL is about 4F warmer in JUN than Roanoke, VA (according to climatology).

If AL is too hot at avg. high of 87F in JUN, and Roanoke is not too hot at 84F, that will help us trim the "Serkle" --- we just need to find areas within that swath that fits a climo that is 85F or cooler.  

I will probably do the trip to Gadsden a different time --- looks pretty awesome to me.

I know it's unsolicited, but I can imagine it's hard to take all these things into account on your own, so I'll keep trying to find a new suggestion within those defined bounds every few weeks or so until it's determined where we're going. 

I'm only going by traveling through Alabama... it was hot.  I don't remember Roanoke being terribly uncomfortable. 

For a moment there I thought that you had dropped a huge clue.

I initially read it as though you would be travelling through Alabama.

It pays to reread things.

[vanavyman]

Lacking the deducing skills, the hacking abilities, and the omnipotent powers of the NSA that our friend Serk possesses. I will close my eyes and throw a dart at the map as I did last year. Drum Roll........my guess is Charleston, West Virginia. 

Charleston, WV would be a nice place for an InZane. 
Dan

[The emperor has no clothes]

Lacking the deducing skills, the hacking abilities, and the omnipotent powers of the NSA that our friend Serk possesses. I will close my eyes and throw a dart at the map as I did last year. Drum Roll........my guess is Charleston, West Virginia. 

Charleston, WV would be a nice place for an InZane. 
Dan

I haven't been there. But looking at the map it seems to have a lot going for it.

[Mapper]

Any thoughts to locating at/near a motorcycle campground?  There are several really nice ones exclusive to motorcyclists in the VA/NC Blue Ridge: Willville, Iron Horse, etc.

[Farside]

Alabama....nope, too hot. It's no better than Georgia that time of year.

I agree with your Alabama assessment.  

Haters

Gadsden, AL is about 4F warmer in JUN than Roanoke, VA (according to climatology).

If AL is too hot at avg. high of 87F in JUN, and Roanoke is not too hot at 84F, that will help us trim the "Serkle" --- we just need to find areas within that swath that fits a climo that is 85F or cooler.  

I will probably do the trip to Gadsden a different time --- looks pretty awesome to me.

I know it's unsolicited, but I can imagine it's hard to take all these things into account on your own, so I'll keep trying to find a new suggestion within those defined bounds every few weeks or so until it's determined where we're going.

I must say I've ridden North Central / North AL in early June and it could warm up to mid 80's by 3 pm but cool down nice. It's not bad at all. Leeds, AL with Barbers Motorsports a must visit then with Cheha State Park close by. Nice roads north to Anniston, Gadsden, Ft. Payne, and over to Scottsboro and back. All pretty close to TN & GA line with lots of good rides and nice roads with little traffic. Not to mention Great folks and food, so I don't think anyone would be disappointed. There is a lack of twisties but good riding none the less. It would be a good site for InZane IMHO. 

[Gnarly]

Leave it to the rookie, here; the Lurker & Learner, not Frequent Poster....to point out the virtues of InZane in Kenwacky.

Specifically: basecamp anywhere near the Mammoth Cave area.
Motels. Twisties. Scenery, galore.

A day trip to the Daniel Boone National Forest? Raven Rock Overlook; Chimney Rock. The beautiful Red River Gorge!

A day trip to Kentucky & Barkley Lakes, with a riding tour of Land Between The Lakes.

Any exit off the Mountain Parkway? More two-lane twisties. Only: like a roller-coaster!

40 minutes north up I- 65? Bernheim Forest; simply unreal.

Fairly certain nobody on here has heard of Moonlight Barbecue in Owensboro....

And it's an open carry state, if that matters as much to y'all as it does to us.

Just my two cents worth!

~Gnarly

Mark Twain: "When the end of the world comes, I want to be in Kentucky, because everything there happens 20 years after it happens anywhere else."

[vanavyman]

Leave it to the rookie, here; the Lurker & Learner, not Frequent Poster....to point out the virtues of InZane in Kenwacky.

Specifically: basecamp anywhere near the Mammoth Cave area.
Motels. Twisties. Scenery, galore.

A day trip to the Daniel Boone National Forest? Raven Rock Overlook; Chimney Rock.

A day trip to Kentucky & Barkley Lakes, with a riding tour of Land Between The Lakes.

Any exit off the Mountain Parkway? More two-lane twisties.

40 minutes north up I- 65? Bernheim Forest; simply unreal.

Fairly certain nobody on here has heard of Moonlight Barbecue in Owensboro....

And it's an open carry state, if that matters as much to y'all as it does to us.

Just my two cents worth!

~Gnarly

Mark Twain: "When the end of the world comes, I want to be in Kentucky, because everything there happens 20 years after it happens anywhere else."

On top of all the good roads in that area there are a lot of good Bourbon Distilleries in that area of Kentucky.
Dan

[bill-jr]

Ah moonlight bbq one of my favorites . . .
Not many all you can eat bbq joints out there . . .

[97BLKVALK]

Gnarly,

I'm hoping this is the area.  We rode through on our way to Morgantown after being in Bowling Green for a tour of Corvette Museum and a night in Elizabethtown.  Spent a night on the way to Roanoke in Columbia we didnt realize that the CST/EST timezone was so close we lost an hour right away that morning.

[jimmytee]

Gnarly,

I'm hoping this is the area.  We rode through on our way to Morgantown after being in Bowling Green for a tour of Corvette Museum and a night in Elizabethtown.  Spent a night on the way to Roanoke in Columbia we didnt realize that the CST/EST timezone was so close we lost an hour right away that morning.

I live here in Elizabethtown,KY. Yep drive 30 minutes or so to my West and I travel back in time 1 hour...lol   KY would be a great place for INZANE, not just because I live here. There are lot's of good roads and plenty of day trip destinations.

[Serk]

Using Willow's response to my query about my adding new states to my "States I've ridden in" map, I played around with some mapping this morning, and have eliminated a few possible areas as the Google Maps default routes would not have me adding any new states to get there...



This next map is a total and complete WAG on my part, just looking at the available areas and looking at possible nicer areas for motorcycling, I'm gonna guess somewhere in one of the red circles. But this is just a WAG, NOT based on direct analysis of the hints given, beyond guessing based on area:



(I have also not yet analyzed the circled areas to see which ones, if any, contain locales large enough to support a hotel that would qualify for our requirements for a ground zero locale. Might do that later depending on if I get bored )

Anyone see any other strong potential areas in the Serkle map that would make good locales that I missed?

...patiently waiting for the next bit of empirical data from the Powers that Be... 

[Oss]

That circle with northeast Kentucky has some fine roads in fact all the way thru WV into SW Pa  is really the same chain of mountains  "Appalachians "  Those go thru the Shawangunks, the Catskills in NY and the Taconics and Green Mountains

Very old mountains, once as tall as the Alps !



I have had interesting rides in SE Ohio (the border with WV is a river) and many roads you can not tell at all where the road goes as you get to the crest of hills.     You have to be on your best as it could zig instead of zag or just go straight back down, you never know

I think the area around Penn State has some big conference centers.  Perhaps the ride will thus be in a college town..

[Jess from VA]

Hey, I found some bargains in Pennsylvania.

Coplay Kilns


Eastern State Penitentiary


Somewhere near the PA Turnpike.


Fonthill Castle, Doylestown


1899 Queen Anne's Beaver (PA)

[Valker]

Plenty of large venues and great roads in Helen, GA.

[Serk]

Plenty of large venues and great roads in Helen, GA.

...and that'd have the bonus of being able to tell people I went to Helen back.

[henry 008]

Plenty of large venues and great roads in Helen, GA.

...and that'd have the bonus of being able to tell people I went to Helen back.

I have been to Hell and back 

[Dave Ritsema]

Plenty of large venues and great roads in Helen, GA.

...and that'd have the bonus of being able to tell people I went to Helen back.

There are multiple routes to Hell my friend.  




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Michigan

What does that do to your Serkle?

[bill-jr]

Been to hell once . . Went fishing there. .

[..]

Plenty of large venues and great roads in Helen, GA.

Roads are good but hotels aren't big enough; you'd need 2 side by side. Plus it's prime tourist/schools out time. The place becomes a zoo.

[..]

Hey, I found some bargains in Pennsylvania.



1899 Queen Anne's Beaver (PA)

I'd often wondered what Queen Anne's Beaver looked like and now I know. 

[Jess from VA]

Hey, I found some bargains in Pennsylvania.



1899 Queen Anne's Beaver (PA)

I'd often wondered what Queen Anne's Beaver looked like and now I know. 

Oh, I'm sorry for the typo.... that was supposed to read Queen Ann (style house), in Beaver Pennsylvania.   Somehow, it got typed as Queen Ann's Beaver.   

This one might be OK.


But I'll pass on this one.

[Rams]

But I'll pass on this one.

Apparently, it ain't close enough to closing time for Jess..............   

Rams