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Serk

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Willow

It's interesting but I just can't take any male with long red hair seriously.  [/sarcasm]   ;)

Jersey mike

Quote from: Willow on Fri 04, Sep 2020, 08:50:21
It's interesting but I just can't take any male with long red hair seriously.  [/sarcasm]   ;)

You mean like this guy

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KFI-jJeZtvE


Robert

UN Forced to Admit Gates-funded Vaccine is Causing Polio Outbreak in Africa

This really should be one of the biggest public health scandals of the decade, but instead it's given little attention – mainly because of the high-profile nature of the people and organisations involved.

The United Nations has been forced to admit that a major international vaccine initiative is actually causing a deadly outbreak of the very disease it was supposed to wipe-out.

While international organisations like the World Health Organization (WHO) will regularly boast about 'eradicating polio' with vaccines—the opposite seems to be the case, with vaccines causing the deaths of scores of young people living in Africa.

Officials now fear this new dangerous strain could soon 'jump continents,' causing further deadly outbreaks around the world.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Jersey mike


https://www.theblaze.com/news/ready-county-sends-woman-letter-telling-her-she-has-covid-but-she-died-6-months-ago-and-was-never-tested


" Ms. Whittington had been cremated for months at the time the county claimed she had been tested, indicating that it is "clearly impossible" that she could have been tested on June 20 as the county told her son, according to the outlet."

"I'm just having a hard time understanding how they can say someone has COVID-19 when they are not even alive," Whittington said."

"What's more, Whittington questions why — if the county truly believed his mother tested positive in June — did it take so long for the health department to send out a letter telling her to self-quarantine."

"We're talking two months later," Troy Whittington said. "She needs to be quarantined for 10, well we've got 60 days from the time of the test to get the letter out to her, which is unacceptable."


Patrick

I mentioned somewhere else here that a local company sent for 80 test kits. None were used, just packaged and sent back. 64 tested positive.

Jersey mike

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/09/nj-reports-370-new-covid-19-cases-7-more-deaths-as-transmission-rate-rises-hospitalizations-fall-below-400.html

" New Jersey's COVID-19 hospitalizations have dropped dramatically since the state's peak in mid-April, when there were more than 8,000 patients."

AGE BREAKDOWNS

"Broken down by age, those 30 to 49 years old make up the largest percentage of New Jersey residents that caught the virus (31.6%), followed by those 50-64 (27.6%), 18-29 (14%), 65-79 (14%), 80 and older (9.9%), 5-17 (2.4%), and 0-4 (0.5%)."

"But, on average, the virus has been more deadly for older residents, especially those with pre-existing conditions. Nearly half the state's deaths have been of residents 80 and older (47.3%), followed by those 65-79 (32.2%), 50-64 (15.95%), 30-49 (4.3%), 18-25 (0.4%), 5-17 (0%), and 0-4 (0%)."

"Nearly half of New Jersey's deaths — at least 7,113 — have been of residents and staff members at nursing homes and other long-term care facilities."

So 65:and older make up 79.5% of deaths in N.J.

If you add in age group 50-64 it goes up to 95.45%.

Jersey mike

Quote from: Britman on Sat 05, Sep 2020, 10:54:03
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8699891/Outbreak-Maine-wedding-linked-147-coronavirus-cases-three-deaths.html

So the thing I'm taking away from this article is, 147 people tested positive, 3 people died and 1 person in their upper 90's made a "miraculous recovery"

" Frank Dentremont, who is a WWII veteran and the oldest resident of resident of East Millinocket, was hospitalized at the same facility a few days later with COVID-19."

"His son, Frank Dentremont Jr, revealed in a Facebook post that his father had since miraculously recovered and was due to be discharged from the hospital on Wednesday."



Jersey mike

Quote from: Britman on Sun 06, Sep 2020, 10:15:52
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2020/09/05/get-ready-fo-covid-19-fema-camps-n896287

Get Ready for COVID-19 FEMA Camps

Sounds interesting...doubt it will work. BUT as it should have been instead of locking everything down, you quarantine THE SICK. testing positive is not being sick.

scooperhsd

Quote from: Jersey mike on Sun 06, Sep 2020, 14:09:02
Quote from: Britman on Sun 06, Sep 2020, 10:15:52
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2020/09/05/get-ready-fo-covid-19-fema-camps-n896287

Get Ready for COVID-19 FEMA Camps

Sounds interesting...doubt it will work. BUT as it should have been instead of locking everything down, you quarantine THE SICK. testing positive is not being sick.

Not at the current false positive / false negative rates anyway.

Now - IF some one feels sick AND they display positive - I'd be inclined to believe they are sick. And should be quarantined.

Valkorado

#2332
Quote from: Jersey mike on Sun 06, Sep 2020, 14:09:02
Quote from: Britman on Sun 06, Sep 2020, 10:15:52
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2020/09/05/get-ready-fo-covid-19-fema-camps-n896287

Get Ready for COVID-19 FEMA Camps

Sounds interesting...doubt it will work. BUT as it should have been instead of locking everything down, you quarantine THE SICK. testing positive is not being sick.

How to quarantine the infected but asymptomatic?  Most of them have not tested, period.  Or do we disregard asymptomatic spread even though it's considered to be scientific fact?   ???
Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
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- John Prine

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Chrisj CMA

Just one more reason to not get tested not get vaccinated not be around sick people and not be sick or not be seen by anyone if you are. I don't need the government to protect me. There is a critical shortage of common sense these days.

Robert

#2334
Quote from: Valkorado on Mon 07, Sep 2020, 08:53:52
Quote from: Jersey mike on Sun 06, Sep 2020, 14:09:02
Quote from: Britman on Sun 06, Sep 2020, 10:15:52
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2020/09/05/get-ready-fo-covid-19-fema-camps-n896287

Get Ready for COVID-19 FEMA Camps

Sounds interesting...doubt it will work. BUT as it should have been instead of locking everything down, you quarantine THE SICK. testing positive is not being sick.

How to quarantine the infected but asymptomatic?  Most of them have not tested, period.  Or do we disregard asymptomatic spread even though it's considered to be scientific fact?   ???
Programming an interesting thing we were supposed to only be quarantined until the curve was down now the curves are down we find out that it’s not anywhere near as serious as we thought and yet we are still talking about asymptomatic and quarantining that’s Programming.

When are we going to stop all this nonsense and get back to life as usual
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Robert

My friend took a test and on the test it said" If the test comes back negative and you have all the symptoms then you are positive."

So essentially saying the test is a failure.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Valkorado

Quote from: Robert on Mon 07, Sep 2020, 09:09:18
Quote from: Valkorado on Mon 07, Sep 2020, 08:53:52
Quote from: Jersey mike on Sun 06, Sep 2020, 14:09:02
Quote from: Britman on Sun 06, Sep 2020, 10:15:52
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2020/09/05/get-ready-fo-covid-19-fema-camps-n896287

Get Ready for COVID-19 FEMA Camps

Sounds interesting...doubt it will work. BUT as it should have been instead of locking everything down, you quarantine THE SICK. testing positive is not being sick.

How to quarantine the infected but asymptomatic?  Most of them have not tested, period.  Or do we disregard asymptomatic spread even though it's considered to be scientific fact?   ???
Programming an interesting thing we were supposed to only be quarantined until the curve was down now the curves are down we find out that it's not anywhere near as serious as we thought and yet we are still talking about asymptomatic and quarantining that's Programming.

When are we going to stop all this nonsense and get back to life as usual

Who is we?

I'm riding a lot.  I am being a good consumer, spending my money in businesses to acquire the products I need to live.  Hopefully others are doing the same, and society and our economy will return to normal as much as possible.  The "curve" is down in some states, it's rising in others.  It is what it is...

"We" are still talking about asymptomatic?  I guess "we" should sweep that under the rug?

I beg to differ that it's not serious,  or that it can be not spread via asymptomatic carriers.  And yet I'm living my life.  Imagine that.  When the sign says mask up I do.  Several punks in the store yesterday weren't "into" masking despite the huge signs on all the doors saying they are mandatory.  Ya, they passed me off.
Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood?
- John Prine

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01 Interstate "Ruby"


98valk

Quote from: Robert on Mon 07, Sep 2020, 09:43:25
My friend took a test and on the test it said" If the test comes back negative and you have all the symptoms then you are positive."

So essentially saying the test is a failure.

the inventor of the test states it is a failure

https://www.weblyf.com/2020/05/coronavirus-the-truth-about-pcr-test-kit-from-the-inventor-and-other-experts/

In the previous entry, we learned how a process invented to increase the size of research samples of DNA called polymerase chain reaction is used to test for viruses even though the guy who received a Nobel Prize for inventing it said using it that way doesn't work.
https://www.redstate.com/michael_thau/2020/09/03/ny-times-up-to-90-of-people-who-tested-positive-for-c19-not-infected-truth-a-whole-lot-worse-pt-3/

Elon Musk I hear he is pretty smart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUmJxoNdRik&feature=youtu.be   

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Robert

#2338
Human 2.0 ~ A Wake Up Call To The World

Information on the current state of vaccines and the ideas not only thought of but are trying to produce.

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=K21G6HGRDKXY
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Valkorado

Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood?
- John Prine

97 Tourer "Silver Bullet"
01 Interstate "Ruby"


Robert

#2340
No I think this is better for you

Predictive Programming BEFORE THE CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=XAMSG75M8XSH

It premiered on Fox on March 1, 2015.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Valkorado

Quote from: Robert on Mon 07, Sep 2020, 10:39:08
No I think this is better for you

Predictive Programming BEFORE THE CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=XAMSG75M8XSH

It premiered on Fox on March 1, 2015.

OK, I'll  play.  That is"better" than what?  For who?
Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood?
- John Prine

97 Tourer "Silver Bullet"
01 Interstate "Ruby"


98valk

1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Willow

Quote from: Valkorado on Mon 07, Sep 2020, 08:53:52
...  Or do we disregard asymptomatic spread even though it's considered to be scientific fact?   ???

You may want to check your scientific "facts".  Many scientific studies have recently determined that asymptomatic persons don't spread the virus.

Valkorado

#2344
What we've learned about COVID-19, and some key questions we're still facing

https://omaha.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/what-weve-learned-about-covid-19-and-some-key-questions-were-still-facing/article_d7e14a43-0646-5647-a2ad-0183b754daaa.html

Interesting article.  There are things "we" learn collectively that some will never accept as individuals.
Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood?
- John Prine

97 Tourer "Silver Bullet"
01 Interstate "Ruby"


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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54081131

Social gatherings above six banned in England from 14 September


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Serk

Take this with a grain of salt, but:

Sturgis Motorcycle Rally linked to 20% of US coronavirus cases in August

(The 460,000 attendees are responsible for 266,000 coronavirus cases)

https://www.foxnews.com/health/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-coronavirus-cases-south-dakota
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Willow

#2349
Quote from: Serk on Wed 09, Sep 2020, 14:03:54
Take this with a grain of salt, but:

Sturgis Motorcycle Rally linked to 20% of US coronavirus cases in August

(The 460,000 attendees are responsible for 266,000 coronavirus cases)

https://www.foxnews.com/health/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-coronavirus-cases-south-dakota

And if anyone believes this story I have this bridge ...    ;D

If you look at the graph of cases over that time it's a smooth slope, no spike.  260,000 cases in addition to the normal spread would have been reflected by a change in the graph's slope.

Serk

Quote from: Willow on Wed 09, Sep 2020, 14:30:39
Quote from: Serk on Wed 09, Sep 2020, 14:03:54
Take this with a grain of salt, but:

Sturgis Motorcycle Rally linked to 20% of US coronavirus cases in August

(The 460,000 attendees are responsible for 266,000 coronavirus cases)

https://www.foxnews.com/health/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-coronavirus-cases-south-dakota

And if anyone believes this story I have this bridge ...    ;D

...not falling for that again! However, if you had some oceanfront property in Kansas, I might consider.....
Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...



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Willow

Quote from: Serk on Wed 09, Sep 2020, 14:32:07
...not falling for that again! However, if you had some oceanfront property in Kansas, I might consider.....

I've no ocean front lots but I do have a Kansas hilltop that is close enough that you can see the waves rolling in.   :evil:

Serk

Quote from: Willow on Wed 09, Sep 2020, 14:30:39
Quote from: Serk on Wed 09, Sep 2020, 14:03:54
Take this with a grain of salt, but:

Sturgis Motorcycle Rally linked to 20% of US coronavirus cases in August

(The 460,000 attendees are responsible for 266,000 coronavirus cases)

https://www.foxnews.com/health/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-coronavirus-cases-south-dakota

And if anyone believes this story I have this bridge ...    ;D

If you look at the graph of cases over that time it's a smooth slope, no spike.  260,000 cases in addition to the normal spread would have been reflected by a change in the graph's slope.

https://reason.com/2020/09/09/no-the-sturgis-motorcycle-rally-didnt-spawn-250000-coronavirus-cases/
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 :2funny:

China holding at about 90,000 cases and only 4,733 deaths.

Yeah right.  :uglystupid2:

Alien

Quote from: Britman on Sun 06, Sep 2020, 10:15:52
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2020/09/05/get-ready-fo-covid-19-fema-camps-n896287

Get Ready for COVID-19 FEMA Camps

There are no "FEMA camps."  Following Hurricane Katrina, we in the Emergency Management community learned that we did not know how to completely evacuate the population of a major city.  It had never been done before and in Katrina it was done very badly.  The decision was made to construct facilities to serve as TEP's (Temporary Evacuation Points).  This would allow residents of affected areas to be evacuated to safe locations where they could recieve proper care, shelter and disaster relief services.  Additionally, it provides the ability to track evacuees so that they can be reunified with their loved ones.  The fact that these facilities exist continues to spawn rumors but none are true.

Ride Safe,

Alien

Valkorado

Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood?
- John Prine

97 Tourer "Silver Bullet"
01 Interstate "Ruby"


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#2356
Things that make you go Hmmmmm.

https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/covid-19/wildfire_smoke_covid-19.html?deliveryName=USCDC_2067-DM35083


Cloth masks will not protect you from wildfire smoke.

Cloth masks that are used to slow the spread of COVID-19 by blocking respiratory droplets offer little protection against wildfire smoke. They do not catch small, harmful particles in smoke that can harm your health.

Although N95 respirators do provide protection from wildfire smoke, they might be in short supply as frontline healthcare workers use them during the pandemic.


EDIT

A quick Google search will tell us that smoke particles and debris are usually .4 to .7 microns in size.

Another quick Google search will tell us that the Wuhan Virus is .12 microns in size, about a quarter in size of the smoke and fire debris particulate.  Even if we factor for the "respiratory droplets" that are allegedly to blame for the spread of coronavirus, those droplets are as small as .5 microns, or as small or smaller than smoke and fire debris particulate.



Valkorado

Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood?
- John Prine

97 Tourer "Silver Bullet"
01 Interstate "Ruby"