Time for another truck??....

[Stanley Steamer]

Kip Moore - Somethin' 'Bout A Truck

[Jess Tolbirt]

 

[..]

You wore your truck out antiquing and going to bead shows??? 

[Momz]

The Dodge Ram 1500 Express is a bargain at approx 21K.
Hwy mpg rating of 21 and it comes standard with what most pickup drivers want.

It will be my next truck, and I really wanted a new GMC 1/2 ton with the 5.3 liter motor.

I've owned 5 Ford F150s, an 04 Silverado, considered a Tundra (way to pricey), but features, towing capacity, motor (Hemi), nterior comfort, and price....the Ram Express has it hands down.















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[T-Bird]

I have a 2004 f150 with over 100,00 miles and I have never even looked under the hood! I take it to the dealer for 3000 mi service and thats it. Nothing has ever been done to it. It may bow up tomorrow, but it has been better than all the chevy's I ever owned. I hope to get a new ford next year.

[Chrisj CMA]

Does anyone know why so many men love women in leather (much better than a sun dress)?




























Its because they smell like a new truck 

[cookiedough]

The new 2007 on up tundra's are the bomb!  I would stay clear of the 2007 and 2008 model year and get a 2009 on up since some had issues with rusting sheet metal and chrome, more than what is told.   Seems to be corrected in 2009.  Stock 5.7L 381 hp/401 torque while still achieving for me 17 avg. mpg and 20 mpg tops all hwy. with 4.30 rear axle ratio 24 valve variable valve timing rules.  Only 1/2 ton gas truck that will keep up and pull just as strong is the overly priced GM 6.2L V8 which is not standard and very expensive to get. The tundras are not any pricier buying than a comparably equipped chevy silverado wimpy 5.3L motor crew max vs. a Double Cab in a tundra plus you get a full sized 6 1/2' bed with enough legroom in a Double Cab rear seats for three 6' adults.   I paid 30K for my 2010 and trade in is still bringing 25,750 for 2 1/2 years of driving and 31,000 miles on it.  Ford, GM, nor Dodge can even compete with resale/trade in value.

Plus, they are made in San Antonio TX with the most American made parts of any of the big 3 full sized 1/2 ton trucks.  Cannot complain anymore that Toyota (or Honda as we all know) is jap crap.

[Stanley Steamer]

I had an 82 Dodge pick-up......a '73 Dodge Dart Swinger.....an '84 Dodge Omni GLH.......not the most dependable vehicles I ever had.....

then I bought a 1990 Ford Ranger......4 banger with NO power steering or A/C.....it got ~28mpg in town/32 on the road.....

then I bought a 1999 Mazda B3000 with A/C and power steering.....it and the Ford were very dependable......Ford made the Mazda too......

My Dad was a Chevy man.....I like the looks of the Silverado......but also the new Dodge trucks .....

I won't be buying brand new again.....I like the Kia Sorento, but it cost way too much by the time it's paid for.....

[T-Bird]

Food for thought! thanks for posting

The new 2007 on up tundra's are the bomb!  I would stay clear of the 2007 and 2008 model year and get a 2009 on up since some had issues with rusting sheet metal and chrome, more than what is told.   Seems to be corrected in 2009.  Stock 5.7L 381 hp/401 torque while still achieving for me 17 avg. mpg and 20 mpg tops all hwy. with 4.30 rear axle ratio 24 valve variable valve timing rules.  Only 1/2 ton gas truck that will keep up and pull just as strong is the overly priced GM 6.2L V8 which is not standard and very expensive to get. The tundras are not any pricier buying than a comparably equipped chevy silverado wimpy 5.3L motor crew max vs. a Double Cab in a tundra plus you get a full sized 6 1/2' bed with enough legroom in a Double Cab rear seats for three 6' adults.   I paid 30K for my 2010 and trade in is still bringing 25,750 for 2 1/2 years of driving and 31,000 miles on it.  Ford, GM, nor Dodge can even compete with resale/trade in value.

Plus, they are made in San Antonio TX with the most American made parts of any of the big 3 full sized 1/2 ton trucks.  Cannot complain anymore that Toyota (or Honda as we all know) is jap crap.

[Momz]

I tow a two bike toy hauler, so comfort and torque and towing capacity are important. I also want a bigger toy hauler so my Chevy with the 5.3 liter is not capable, and I refuse to get a 3/4 ton.

If you compare towing capacity, torque/HP, milage, and especially price/cost,....the Ram Express comes out on top.

And I thought I'd never drive anything but a Ford.  

[Stanley Steamer]

I'd love to have one of these.....maybe one day....

2011 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392 - First Test

[cookiedough]

I tow a two bike toy hauler, so comfort and torque and towing capacity are important. I also want a bigger toy hauler so my Chevy with the 5.3 liter is not capable, and I refuse to get a 3/4 ton.

If you compare towing capacity, torque/HP, milage, and especially price/cost,....the Ram Express comes out on top.

And I thought I'd never drive anything but a Ford.  

Toyota tundra's stock 5.7L V8 will smoke the Ram's hemi in terms of towing, hp/torque and mileage is within 1 mpg.  I gotta give Dodge credit though since the price is lower and if you are going to keep it forever and never sell it or trade it in, the poor resale value/trade in of Dodge trucks doesn't really matter.   Ford has an interesting turbo charged V6 in the full sized pickup, but just cannot see getting a high revving V6 of any kind in a full sized truck for longevity.

[Jess from VA]

I know of an '03 GMC Sierra 2500 HD SLT, 4WD, diesel/Allison, crew cab, white, short bed, locking rollup tonneau, 135K, tow package, fifth wheel ready, in very nice shape for sale in MI.  

[..]

MASERATI quattroporte

[MCRIDER]

Plus, they are made in San Antonio TX with the most American made parts of any of the big 3 full sized 1/2 ton trucks.  Cannot complain anymore that Toyota (or Honda as we all know) is jap crap.

Yes, I can still complain about it.  Think you tundra is American?  Go buy a part for it and see where the part is made.  Any part.  But, buy the tundra anyway.  That way you can send the profits back to japan.  Our economy doesn't need help.

[Jess Tolbirt]

Plus, they are made in San Antonio TX with the most American made parts of any of the big 3 full sized 1/2 ton trucks.  Cannot complain anymore that Toyota (or Honda as we all know) is jap crap.

Yes, I can still complain about it.  Think you tundra is American?  Go buy a part for it and see where the part is made.  Any part.  But, buy the tundra anyway.  That way you can send the profits back to japan.  Our economy doesn't need help.

Here we go again,,,
why not take every make of vehicles thats not ford gm or chrysler and send them all packing back to thier homes,,,now how many Americians do you think that would put out of a job? think about it!!!

[solo1]

In todays world, we should be thankful that some foreign vehicles are/were made in the US, including the Valkyrie.  The world has changed. If we can't have the whole pie, a piece is better than nothing.

I owned mostly Ford trucks.  I also owned ONE Dodge, and numerous Toyotas.  The early Toyotas compact trucks were noted for bad rusting. even worse than Vegas and Pintos, remember those POS's?

I miss having a truck but my small car gets much better mileage than a truck and I can borrow my son's GMC 1/2 ton when I need to haul.

As a side note, I always bought the Big Three vehicles until the wife and I owned Kcars by Chrysler.  Those cars drove us (pun intended) into buying Toyotas noted for their reliability, just the opposite of the frigging Kcars.

[BIG--T]

The new 2007 on up tundra's are the bomb!  I would stay clear of the 2007 and 2008 model year and get a 2009 on up since some had issues with rusting sheet metal and chrome, more than what is told.   Seems to be corrected in 2009.  Stock 5.7L 381 hp/401 torque while still achieving for me 17 avg. mpg and 20 mpg tops all hwy. with 4.30 rear axle ratio 24 valve variable valve timing rules.  Only 1/2 ton gas truck that will keep up and pull just as strong is the overly priced GM 6.2L V8 which is not standard and very expensive to get. The tundras are not any pricier buying than a comparably equipped chevy silverado wimpy 5.3L motor crew max vs. a Double Cab in a tundra plus you get a full sized 6 1/2' bed with enough legroom in a Double Cab rear seats for three 6' adults.   I paid 30K for my 2010 and trade in is still bringing 25,750 for 2 1/2 years of driving and 31,000 miles on it.  Ford, GM, nor Dodge can even compete with resale/trade in value.

Plus, they are made in San Antonio TX with the most American made parts of any of the big 3 full sized 1/2 ton trucks.  Cannot complain anymore that Toyota (or Honda as we all know) is jap crap.

You may know your Toys, but the Chevy Silverado/ GMC Sierra has the highest resale value. I just sold my old 94 Z-71 with the 5.7 (350) with 303,000 and no engine trouble! I just bought a new Chevy Crew cab and love it. BTW, Did you see on the news a Silverado hit 1 million miles?

They are tough man...like a rock! USA!!!!!  After 101 years I think they got it right! 

[cookiedough]

In todays world, we should be thankful that some foreign vehicles are/were made in the US, including the Valkyrie.  The world has changed. If we can't have the whole pie, a piece is better than nothing.

I owned mostly Ford trucks.  I also owned ONE Dodge, and numerous Toyotas.  The early Toyotas compact trucks were noted for bad rusting. even worse than Vegas and Pintos, remember those POS's?

I miss having a truck but my small car gets much better mileage than a truck and I can borrow my son's GMC 1/2 ton when I need to haul.

As a side note, I always bought the Big Three vehicles until the wife and I owned Kcars by Chrysler.  Those cars drove us (pun intended) into buying Toyotas noted for their reliability, just the opposite of the frigging Kcars.

Well said, there is no 100% American made and parts made USA vehicles.  Big 3 owners of which I was one from 1978-2007 namely strictly chevrolet silverado's mostly need to retrain their thinking and realize Toyota (nor Honda) are foreign and not as much profit goes back to Japan as you may think.  I'd rather buy a Toyota Tundra (better quality overall than Chevy Silverado that I do know since owned a few tundras and dozens of silverados since 1990) with tundras being 80% American made parts and made in Texas than a Silverado about 73% American made parts and all I have owned were either made in Canada or Mexico.  I'd rather employ and support American workers more than the Big 3 have done in recent years outsourcing their plants  and parts assembly overseas more so than Toyota has done.  Plus, the 5.7L V8 in the tundra is awesome, drive one and you will see.  I'm not saying the tundra does not have it's flaws, it does, but overall, the engine and tranny combo cannot be beat in a 1/2 ton truck gas engine,  as of now,  plus the much bigger tundra since 2007 is very good quality as good as any of the Big 3 has out now.  

Here is a very good article, although coming from a tundra forum and 2-3 years old, showing why the toyota tundra is good for the USA:  http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/07/03/25-vehicles-less-american-than-the-toyota-tundra/

I was shocked to find out the dodge ram back in 2009 had a little over 50% American made parts.  I see more and more of the Big 3 assembled in foreign countries overseas let alone a bigger portion of their parts suppliers going overseas as well which really upsets me for the future of the USA economy.  A local huge employer seat supplier for GM nearby me employing hundreds went overseas elsewhere to build their seats and besides the local GM plant closing in Janesville WI closing it's doors in 2008 employing 1,000's with 100's of more workers employed by local GM suppliers going under on top of GM going bankrupt owned by Government Motors still leaves a bad taste in my mouth not wanting to buy GM products.  I was a huge GM fan worked for them 6 years before closing the doors along with my Dad at GM plant for 34 hard years in the 50's thru 80's.  However, I took a chance in 2007 trading in my 5 month old new Chevy silverado made in Canada that had numerous items falling off of it brand new right off the showroom floor for the redesigned 2007 toyota tundra and haven't regretted that decision.

[Paxton]

My "truck" is not in the big power league, but it meets our needs.
This 2007 Chevy Colorado 5-Cylinder in line 3.7L Crew Cab (252 HP / 252 Torque) is pretty economical and comfortable.    
I love the overdrive transmission.  

At first the resale value went down fast. For some reason, the KBB & NADA values have gone back up.
I bought it new on 1 July 2007. It now has 23K miles.

[BIG--T]

I tow a two bike toy hauler, so comfort and torque and towing capacity are important. I also want a bigger toy hauler so my Chevy with the 5.3 liter is not capable, and I refuse to get a 3/4 ton.

If you compare towing capacity, torque/HP, milage, and especially price/cost,....the Ram Express comes out on top.

And I thought I'd never drive anything but a Ford.  

I had a 1994 1/2 ton Chevy Z-71 Ext cab that pulled an older, heaver 40' camper - no 5th wheel with no problem. 

[BIG--T]

In todays world, we should be thankful that some foreign vehicles are/were made in the US, including the Valkyrie.  The world has changed. If we can't have the whole pie, a piece is better than nothing.

I owned mostly Ford trucks.  I also owned ONE Dodge, and numerous Toyotas.  The early Toyotas compact trucks were noted for bad rusting. even worse than Vegas and Pintos, remember those POS's?

I miss having a truck but my small car gets much better mileage than a truck and I can borrow my son's GMC 1/2 ton when I need to haul.

As a side note, I always bought the Big Three vehicles until the wife and I owned Kcars by Chrysler.  Those cars drove us (pun intended) into buying Toyotas noted for their reliability, just the opposite of the frigging Kcars.

Well said, there is no 100% American made and parts made USA vehicles.  Big 3 owners of which I was one from 1978-2007 namely strictly chevrolet silverado's mostly need to retrain their thinking and realize Toyota (nor Honda) are foreign and not as much profit goes back to Japan as you may think.  I'd rather buy a Toyota Tundra (better quality overall than Chevy Silverado that I do know since owned a few tundras and dozens of silverados since 1990) with tundras being 80% American made parts and made in Texas than a Silverado about 73% American made parts and all I have owned were either made in Canada or Mexico.  I'd rather employ and support American workers more than the Big 3 have done in recent years outsourcing their plants  and parts assembly overseas more so than Toyota has done.  Plus, the 5.7L V8 in the tundra is awesome, drive one and you will see.  I'm not saying the tundra does not have it's flaws, it does, but overall, the engine and tranny combo cannot be beat in a 1/2 ton truck gas engine,  as of now,  plus the much bigger tundra since 2007 is very good quality as good as any of the Big 3 has out now.  

Here is a very good article, although coming from a tundra forum and 2-3 years old, showing why the toyota tundra is good for the USA:  http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/07/03/25-vehicles-less-american-than-the-toyota-tundra/

I was shocked to find out the dodge ram back in 2009 had a little over 50% American made parts.  I see more and more of the Big 3 assembled in foreign countries overseas let alone a bigger portion of their parts suppliers going overseas as well which really upsets me for the future of the USA economy.  A local huge employer seat supplier for GM nearby me employing hundreds went overseas elsewhere to build their seats and besides the local GM plant closing in Janesville WI closing it's doors in 2008 employing 1,000's with 100's of more workers employed by local GM suppliers going under on top of GM going bankrupt owned by Government Motors still leaves a bad taste in my mouth not wanting to buy GM products.  I was a huge GM fan worked for them 6 years before closing the doors along with my Dad at GM plant for 34 hard years in the 50's thru 80's.  However, I took a chance in 2007 trading in my 5 month old new Chevy silverado made in Canada that had numerous items falling off of it brand new right off the showroom floor for the redesigned 2007 toyota tundra and haven't regretted that decision.

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With the lay-offs for you and your dad and bankruptcy I can see why you hate GM. Now the new truck that the parts fell off in 5 months, I'd say you bought a lemon's lemon! 

[BIG--T]

My "truck" is not in the big power league, but it meets our needs.
This 2007 Chevy Colorado 5-Cylinder in line 3.7L Crew Cab (252 HP / 252 Torque) is pretty economical and comfortable.    
I love the overdrive transmission.  

At first the resale value went down fast. For some reason, the KBB & NADA values have gone back up.
I bought it new on 1 July 2007. It now has 23K miles.

252 HP is not bad for a 5 cylinder and probably gets good gas mileage! I like the looks of them too. That is very low mileage for 5 years old. 

[Patrick]

I bought a new Tundra with needed control arm bushings at 19K miles, it went thru 2 engines within 40K miles and had a rotten frame which toyota wouldn't do a thing about.. I bought JoAnn a new Highlander and within 75K miles it was down to running on 3 out of the 6 cylinders and I had been arguing with Toyota for 3 years over it..  I will never, ever own another Toyota product.. I'm pretty anal about maintenance, the problems were with the product..
With what GM has done to the American public, I will never own another one of their products..
The best Truck I've had in awhile is the Dodge 1500..

[BIG--T]

I bought a new Tundra with needed control arm bushings at 19K miles, it went thru 2 engines within 40K miles and had a rotten frame which toyota wouldn't do a thing about.. I bought JoAnn a new Highlander and within 75K miles it was down to running on 3 out of the 6 cylinders and I had been arguing with Toyota for 3 years over it..  I will never, ever own another Toyota product.. I'm pretty anal about maintenance, the problems were with the product..
With what GM has done to the American public, I will never own another one of their products..
The best Truck I've had in awhile is the Dodge 1500..

GM made a fast turn around and comeback. Their sales are now booming and I'm glad I bought mine when I did!

It is facinating to see pps vehicle choice. It used to be ford and chevy and finally dodge. Now there is toyotas, hondas, and panasonics..oh and kias and hundais and.................................

[Jess from VA]

I like my brother's approach to trucks (and any vehicles really).  He won't own anything made after 1972.  He will not own any vehicle with a modern sensor of any kind, only carburetors.  He is a master mechanic with a nearly complete machine shop.  He buys junk engines and rebuilds them, can do an engine swap by himself in a day, and when the body rots off, he buys one from the junk yard, and drops them on his old trucks.  All Mopar.  His daily driver is a '67 dodge 1/2 ton with a late '90's body on it (no AC, but a good heater).   His shop also has three antique but fully working farm tractors (with all power take off tools for the big Farmall), an industrial Hyster Hi-lo, a 2 1/2 ton dump truck (resurrected from junk), front end loader/bucket, huge stump grinder, aircraft tug, couple old cars, an ultralight aircraft, and a new monowing he is building from scratch.  Also three rebuilt aircraft engines (Lycomming), and a dozen old outboards.  When some of the old cars are sold off, his Cessna 172 can go in there. 

When our old parents decided owning a home was too much work and sold out, he built them a small one next to his on his property and moved them in.  He could barely get thru school, was nearly deaf at 13, and just impresses the hell out of me. 

Of course his wife the RN does not hold with this foolishness, so she gets a new Dodge every ten years or so.

[Thulsa Doom]

Nissan  
Always had Chevy trucks and liked them all just fine. Three years ago i bought my wife a Nissan Xterra and liked it a lot. 2 weeks later my GMC pickup needed work so I traded it toward another Xterra. Same color too. Good little trucks these.


Mine '06 on left. Wife's '05 right.

[Hoser]

Got a 94 F150 xlt extra cab with 302 motor.  Goes fast, never breaks down, 184000 miles, and gets really crappy gas milage.  Still has  the original spark plugs.... Kinda like my Valkyrie.       Hoser

[Paxton]

Jess from VA;
I like the story about your brother and old vehicles. I LOVED to learn about what he did for your parents.
Although I own a 2007 Chevy Colorado, I've virtually given it to my disabled son. My actual daily driver is a 1966 Ford Bronco;
first year production.

As with the Valkyrie, it is a Rubber-Necker. Very rare in its condition by this neck of the woods!
PHOTOS: https://picasaweb.google.com/103917731019176896112/BRONCOTOY?authkey=Gv1sRgCOXVwcj24o7PvAE

[PAVALKER]

Jess from VA;
I like the story about your brother and old vehicles. I LOVED to learn about what he did for your parents.
Although I own a 2007 Chevy Colorado, I've virtually given it to my disabled son. My actual daily driver is a 1966 Ford Bronco;
first year production.

As with the Valkyrie, it is a Rubber-Necker. Very rare in its condition by this neck of the woods!
PHOTOS: https://picasaweb.google.com/103917731019176896112/BRONCOTOY?authkey=Gv1sRgCOXVwcj24o7PvAE

I liked that story as well... that made me pause and smile.   

[fordmano]

  Anyone want my opinion?   


Hehehehehe!!!

[Stanley Steamer]

Anyone want my opinion?   


Hehehehehe!!!

Chevy man huh???

[Wetrudgeon]

We bought a '12 Ram Reg Cab 1500 recently and it's good truck.  You may not be able to tell in the photo, but its red.

This our third swb Reg cab Ram, and we have had excellent service and virtually zero problems with all three.  Our son still dives our '99, now approaching 200K.  Good trucks, these Dodge Rams...

We trudge on.

[MNBill]

Silverado 04 Duramax is what I have. Taken LF wheel bearing and RR seal in 100000 miles, oh and a fuel pressure regulator at 36000. Stealer thought it was injectors so he replaced them, drove it and it did not fix the problem. He replaced the FPR and fixed it, so I got free new injectors and FPR (warranty). Pulls my 25 foot 5th wheel, with my 16 foot boat behind that or 2 bike trailer. It has mirrors so I can tell that stuff is behind me, it just pulls like nothing is there. Runs about 15-16 MPG in town and 18 MPG on the road empty - 10 MPG pulling all that stuff. Bought it, paid it off, figure it will be the last truck I will ever need.

[BIG--T]

Silverado 04 Duramax is what I have. Taken LF wheel bearing and RR seal in 100000 miles, oh and a fuel pressure regulator at 36000. Stealer thought it was injectors so he replaced them, drove it and it did not fix the problem. He replaced the FPR and fixed it, so I got free new injectors and FPR (warranty). Pulls my 25 foot 5th wheel, with my 16 foot boat behind that or 2 bike trailer. It has mirrors so I can tell that stuff is behind me, it just pulls like nothing is there. Runs about 15-16 MPG in town and 18 MPG on the road empty - 10 MPG pulling all that stuff. Bought it, paid it off, figure it will be the last truck I will ever need.

Yep, she's not even broke in! 

[Rams]

Used to be a Chevy man, now I drive a Dodge with a Cummins in it.  I love that Cummins engine.  Maintenance costs have been minimal, I can tow with anyone and gets great fuel mileage.   A diesel isn't for everyone but for me, it fits like a glove.  

Although both the Powerstroke and Duramax have made improvements, they still don't have the long term reliability of a Cummins.

Edited: Oh yeah, I get between 23 and 25 mpg empty and the worst I've ever gotten with a load is 14.2 mph and that was with a very bad aerodyamic load from KS to KY pushing the speed limit by at least 10 mph.  Yep, I love that Cummins.

As far as GM goes, I'll consider another GM when they pay back every red cent.  

[cookiedough]

As far as GM goes, I'll consider another GM when they pay back every red cent.  

I 110% agree.  If GM is making profits recently the past couple of years out of bankruptcy, why are the big wigs still getting bonuses of all kinds and NOT paying back 100% of the bailout money of yet they have NOT done. If GM and Dodge go in the tank again, let them, since they didn't learn their lesson.  First hand experience with GM having visited Detroit's GM headquarters, is there are way too many mid to upper level mgrs. earning enormous big bucks not doing a darn thing to earn it plus too many chiefs and not enough Indians.

[santa]

The Tundra motor is made in Huntsville, Alabama USA

[hubcapsc]

Although both the Powerstroke and Duramax have made improvements, they still don't have the long term reliability of a Cummins.

We got this for Carolyn to haul her horses with two years ago, it had 250K on it... it has
been trouble free...



I don't know much about trucks, I heard this was the last year of a particularly good
model...

-Mike

[Thulsa Doom]

I like my brother's approach to trucks (and any vehicles really).  He won't own anything made after 1972.  He will not own any vehicle with a modern sensor of any kind, only carburetors.  He is a master mechanic with a nearly complete machine shop.  He buys junk engines and rebuilds them, can do an engine swap by himself in a day, and when the body rots off, he buys one from the junk yard, and drops them on his old trucks.  All Mopar.  His daily driver is a '67 dodge 1/2 ton with a late '90's body on it (no AC, but a good heater).   His shop also has three antique but fully working farm tractors (with all power take off tools for the big Farmall), an industrial Hyster Hi-lo, a 2 1/2 ton dump truck (resurrected from junk), front end loader/bucket, huge stump grinder, aircraft tug, couple old cars, an ultralight aircraft, and a new monowing he is building from scratch.  Also three rebuilt aircraft engines (Lycomming), and a dozen old outboards.  When some of the old cars are sold off, his Cessna 172 can go in there. 

When our old parents decided owning a home was too much work and sold out, he built them a small one next to his on his property and moved them in.  He could barely get thru school, was nearly deaf at 13, and just impresses the hell out of me. 

Of course his wife the RN does not hold with this foolishness, so she gets a new Dodge every ten years or so.

Your brother seems A-OK with me.