Turbo build!!!

[moodyvalk]

Just finished another turbo build, this time it was on a 2001 Valkyrie.  Wow what a great and fun bike for a turbo!  Would anyone like to see the build?  After a quick search it doesn't look like turbo's are common on this 6 cylinder, which i don't know why cause it is perfect for a turbo and with a blow through setup it drives just like a normally aspirated engine when not boosting...

[Bighead]

Yes we all would like to see it and I think the price and unavailability of parts is why you don't see more.

[moodyvalk]

Sounds good.  I think the owner may be a member of the forum so I can't show too much just yet cause I wont be delivering the bike to him till the end of this month.  He wants to be surprised by it, he has no idea what it looks like or how it performs, yet....

[Jack B]

I know that a little turbo made this bike fast for a 500.

[specialdose]

          Might this be the aforementioned Valkyrie ?

            http://www.psychobike.com/forums/turbo-nitrous/234497-turbo-honda-valkyrie.html

                     

[moodyvalk]

          Might this be the aforementioned Valkyrie ?

            http://www.psychobike.com/forums/turbo-nitrous/234497-turbo-honda-valkyrie.html

                     

yep, sure is....whats your memeber name on psychobike?   looks a little different than that now.  made some changes and havent updated that tread, yet...
thought i would bring the build to a bigger valkyrie audience.

[BnB Tom]

Just finished another turbo build, this time it was on a 2001 Valkyrie.  Wow what a great and fun bike for a turbo!  Would anyone like to see the build?  After a quick search it doesn't look like turbo's are common on this 6 cylinder, which i don't know why cause it is perfect for a turbo and with a blow through setup it drives just like a normally aspirated engine when not boosting...

   And the answer is ....

                         A B S O L U T E L Y ! !

[specialdose]

                 I am not a member of psychobike. After reading your post I did a google search and voila. Your creation brings back
         the memory of Bill Cosby describing his Cobra...." pipes,pipes coming out ".... Looks like you might be a master plumber as
         well as a mechanic. That is one nasty looking Valkyrie. When she is on the street, we need video.

                            Can not imagine how many smiles per hr she will get.            

[jimmytee]

So, when will you have finished pics and can you repeat it in a kit?

[Gavin_Sons]

Now I want a twin turbo valk   

[moodyvalk]

                I am not a member of psychobike. After reading your post I did a google search and voila. Your creation brings back
         the memory of Bill Cosby describing his Cobra...." pipes,pipes coming out ".... Looks like you might be a master plumber as
         well as a mechanic. That is one nasty looking Valkyrie. When she is on the street, we need video.

                            Can not imagine how many smiles per hr she will get.            

Thanks!  Well good news is, she is done and on the street.  I have put about 200 miles on her so far.  Fine tuning on the carbs which is amazing that I some mods that the jetting remains almost completely stock!  I will have to finish tuning when I deliver the bike because i live at about 800 ft elevation and the owner lives in Colorado Springs, CO which is about 6000 ft....

[moodyvalk]

So, when will you have finished pics and can you repeat it in a kit?

I have finished pics, havent seen how to load pics on this forum yet, its different than the other forums im on....
i can repeat for sure, i didnt make any jigs for making the headers and whatnot cause i have now desire to be a manufacture, im a fabricator!  i can custom build a kit for anything even your lawn mower...

[moodyvalk]

Now I want a twin turbo valk   

we can put something together!  although no reason to twin turbo unless you want to waste money to look different.  the RIGHT single turbo will boost instantly and the stock clutch on a valk wont hold 12 psi very long in 5th gear anyways, haha, take my word on that...

[moodyvalk]

got pics and sound clip video i need to upload...going out to shop to do some more final touches to the valk now hopefully i can load some tonight

maybe someone can message me and steer me the right direction loading up pics and video

[Gavin_Sons]

So what was the cost to do a turbo? Or I should ask, what would you charge? Are we talking a few hundred or a few thousand?

[moodyvalk]

BEFORE...

[moodyvalk]

AFTER...

[moodyvalk]

[moodyvalk]

[moodyvalk]

Well loading the video from photobucket didnt work. i will try youtube if i get time tomorrow...I got plenty more pics but dont wont to bore you guys.  let me know if you want to see more of the actually build pics....

[moodyvalk]

here is a link to the youtube video sound clip...Enjoy!

http://youtu.be/vNdtYiLaDQk

[specialdose]

           

                              Moody, don't know if this adequately covers it, SWEET.....

[dago mooserider]

Ho-lee-shite. That is awesome.

[jimmytee]

Yep, how much?

[moodyvalk]

Ho-lee-shite. That is awesome.

Yep, how much?

           

                              Moody, don't know if this adequately covers it, SWEET.....

Thanks guys!  Honestly I spared no expense on this build, with a quality garret ball bearing turbo, AN fittings, stainless steel tubing, quality blow off valve, and the list goes on...the thing is i feel confident when it leaves my hands that the bike will go thousands and thousands of trouble free miles and you guys know as well as i do that's what it's all about, riding!  shoot me an email at moodysuzuki@hotmail.com and we can discuss details about your potential build.

if anyone have instagram you can follow me there also.  look me up there Dustin Moody and my handle is dmoody011

[YoungPUP]

So did you use a single carb or keep the 6 pack?  How's the heat off the turbo in regards to riding and soaking into the fuel tank or possibly cooking the paint on the side of the tank?

[moodyvalk]

So did you use a single carb or keep the 6 pack?  How's the heat off the turbo in regards to riding and soaking into the fuel tank or possibly cooking the paint on the side of the tank?

its a blow through setup, as stated before, so it used the origninal 6 carbs.  which is why driveabilty is so much better than the single draw through carb such as supercharged versions use.   as far as heat, shouldnt be a problem as from my experiences in the past.  of course it is november in kansas so it will be next summer before it will see hot ambient temps, either way cooking paint or heat soak in fuel tank might be making a mountain out of a mole hill

[jimmytee]

So did you use a single carb or keep the 6 pack?  How's the heat off the turbo in regards to riding and soaking into the fuel tank or possibly cooking the paint on the side of the tank?

its a blow through setup, as stated before, so it used the origninal 6 carbs.  which is why driveabilty is so much better than the single draw through carb such as supercharged versions use.   as far as heat, shouldnt be a problem as from my experiences in the past.  of course it is november in kansas so it will be next summer before it will see hot ambient temps, either way cooking paint or heat soak in fuel tank might be making a mountain out of a mole hill

I had wondered about the concept of a blow through design and whether an electric driven turbo would be feasible . An electrically driven turbo with a variable drive using  the pulse signal for reference of speed.

[Valkorado]

BAD ASS!!!   

[moodyvalk]

BAD ASS!!!   

Thanks!  I will be delivering the week of thanksgiving not too far from you in Colorado Springs.  Been to the black cannon a few years ago on my busa...

[moodyvalk]

So did you use a single carb or keep the 6 pack?  How's the heat off the turbo in regards to riding and soaking into the fuel tank or possibly cooking the paint on the side of the tank?

its a blow through setup, as stated before, so it used the origninal 6 carbs.  which is why driveabilty is so much better than the single draw through carb such as supercharged versions use.   as far as heat, shouldnt be a problem as from my experiences in the past.  of course it is november in kansas so it will be next summer before it will see hot ambient temps, either way cooking paint or heat soak in fuel tank might be making a mountain out of a mole hill

I had wondered about the concept of a blow through design and whether an electric driven turbo would be feasible . An electrically driven turbo with a variable drive using  the pulse signal for reference of speed.

well im not sure on the electric driven versus the traditional turbo as far as reliability and cost effectiveness down the road.  if the ball bearing turbo was to fail down the road, the center cartridge can be replaced at a reasonable price...turbos in general have been proven reliable in the automobile industry for years...this is a newer turbo company that has a self contained oiling system that would make the fabrication easier and the turbo can be mounted in several directions/angles which would also make fabrication easier, but they are variable vane turbos and the vanes look cheesy (I am a certified GM diesel tech so I am very familiar with a variable vane turbo.  but they are expensive and I don't know that they have been proven for reliability yet so it makes me hesitant to work with them...

[Fla. Jim]

Looking forward to seeing the hp and tourqe increase from this setup vs $ spent. Sure looks very cool....and scary fast! ( - =

[moodyvalk]

Looking forward to seeing the hp and tourqe increase from this setup vs $ spent. Sure looks very cool....and scary fast! ( - =

Thanks sir!  I am not a dyno number kind of guy, I can tell you this from my motorcycle dragracing background that dyno numbers can be manipulated and what is important is the air to fuel ratio...the owner went with this turbo setup, not for "the best bang for the buck", but more so to be different, unique, make as much power as the clutch or tire can hold, and to possibly be the only guy at Sturgis that has a turbocharged Valkyrie....sometimes there is more to it than just the cost vs. power

[moodyvalk]

O2 sensor bung welded in...self taught TIG welder.  

[moodyvalk]

merge collector in the header manifold...

[pago cruiser]

As much as I appreciate the engineering put into this, and especially the result when you twist the throttle   ...

Why do most after market turbo projects look like an explosion in a tubing factory   ?

Not throwing stones, but it seems almost impossible to add a turbo and not detract from the bikes appearance.

While not a turbo, but the new Kawi H2 supercharged BEAST is so...normal looking (well, relatively - about like every other trendy Transformers- inspired bike looks like), you would not even guess it's the baddest bike on the planet.  No stainless steel tubing and hardware sticking out at odd angles.  The only REALLY odd items are the svelte little wings on the fairing, there to help keep the bike on the ground, instead of airborne at 200+mph...

Maybe twin turbos would be a bit cleaner, per the other post?  I would think you could sell a few more of these if they looked more...normal?  Or at least less kludgy?  Not sure what the word is. 

All that aside, love your craftsmanship.

[moodyvalk]

As much as I appreciate the engineering put into this, and especially the result when you twist the throttle   ...

Why do most after market turbo projects look like an explosion in a tubing factory   ?

Not throwing stones, but it seems almost impossible to add a turbo and not detract from the bikes appearance.

While not a turbo, but the new Kawi H2 supercharged BEAST is so...normal looking (well, relatively - about like every other trendy Transformers- inspired bike looks like), you would not even guess it's the baddest bike on the planet.  No stainless steel tubing and hardware sticking out at odd angles.  The only REALLY odd items are the svelte little wings on the fairing, there to help keep the bike on the ground, instead of airborne at 200+mph...

Maybe twin turbos would be a bit cleaner, per the other post?  I would think you could sell a few more of these if they looked more...normal?  Or at least less kludgy?  Not sure what the word is. 

All that aside, love your craftsmanship.

Thanks!...I think???...
I do though appreciate your response and questions.  Guess all I can say is I love the look of, well for lack of better terms at this time, the tubing factory explosion.   I'm a huge fan of side mount turbo's, I completely understand many don't.  There is actual room to mount the turbo under bike between rear tire and motor which I thought heavily on but I went with the bam slam in the face look.  Not in it to sell kits and make money, though I would love to build another but of course I'm not doing any for free. And I will, I do believe I will be bring another valkyrie back from colorado for the hair dryer mod...

[BonS]

Would putting the turbo behind the engine place the plumbing in a more advantageous location for silencers? That pair of open pipes placed forward of the rider will limit the number of folks that will leap onto a turbo setup as exhaust note will attract every bear-in-the-bushes. A supercharger setup runs $4K+ if you install it yourself. How does that compare to this turbo setup? This is my blower bike.

[specialdose]

             
                   Moody, From the first look on psychobike that is what I liked. The slam bam in the face look. As far as the
            exhaust note, here in Ga. not a problem. This baby will sound like music at rpms compared to the straight pipe HD guys.
            In your video when you fire her up, sounds stock, not the loping idle of the blower bikes.

                   IMO you have created one awesome variation of a Valkyrie. Makes me wonder what Joe Boyd would think
            about your mod. Hope the owner will make a video of her on the road. I have enjoyed all of your post.

[moodyvalk]

Would putting the turbo behind the engine place the plumbing in a more advantageous location for silencers? That pair of open pipes placed forward of the rider will limit the number of folks that will leap onto a turbo setup as exhaust note will attract every bear-in-the-bushes. A supercharger setup runs $4K+ if you install it yourself. How does that compare to this turbo setup? This is my blower bike.

VERY good question and point that I never thought about!  I forget most people that are not familiar with turbo's wouldn't know....you don't need silencers with a turbo.  the turbine wheel acts like a muffler.  in person, it does not sound that loud. I would put money that the cobra 6 into 6 that was pulled of the bike was loader idling.  it absolutely does NOT draw unwanted attention.  thank you for bring up that point, i do appreciate it!!!!

i could build which would be installed turn key and go setup with probably around 4500-6000 depending on how many turbos and what quality of parts.  Of course you could save a lot of money and run a journal bearing turbo or a used turbo but I don't like going cheap on stuff like that especially if its gona have my name on it when it's done....


btw your bike is beautiful!