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« on: April 21, 2015, 04:37:56 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2015, 05:20:25 PM »

How true, when I first starting looking for my first motorcycle in the late 80's they had cardboard underneath them at the HD dealerships
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Big Al of Tennessee
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2015, 05:30:58 PM »

David Allan Coe,,,,,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eoj26UlNMxQ
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2015, 05:31:14 PM »

Yeah,.....but how do you make a Harley run like a Valk? Grin 2funny Grin 2funny
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2015, 05:34:08 PM »

Yeah,.....but how do you make a Harley run like a Valk? Grin 2funny Grin 2funny

Well it is your joke, you tell it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2015, 05:41:06 PM »

It's funny that the joke is an leaky spot because that was the first thing that came to mind.  Just fixed another Harley in the shop last week with a leaking primary and it's only three years old.  Thank you Harley, your terrible products help keep small businesses like mine alive.  
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2015, 05:57:49 PM »

Even electric Harleys leak oil!

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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2015, 06:04:29 PM »

Yeah,.....but how do you make a Harley run like a Valk? Grin 2funny Grin 2funny

Put about 30 grand into the motor? Then it will only last 10k miles. Sorry Al, I know you harley guys get all butt hurt when we make fun of your rides, it's all in good fun though.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2015, 07:52:03 PM »

Yeah,.....but how do you make a Harley run like a Valk? Grin 2funny Grin 2funny

Put about 30 grand into the motor? Then it will only last 10k miles. Sorry Al, I know you harley guys get all butt hurt when we make fun of your rides, it's all in good fun though.

When you find a diamond in the rough, you want to cut it, to make a fine stone.

There is nothing you cannot buy for my bike, it is supported enormously.

Respected around the world, sold around the world.

Will be on the market as long as there is gas to put into it.

I will ride it until there is no more ride left in me.

Then I will buy a Honda Wheel Chair.

MRTAPPAN is all for it, Harley supports businesses far and wide. Thanks Harley Davidson

for keeping my countrymen in a Job.

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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2015, 08:18:51 PM »

I'd say 70% of my mechanic work is Harley.
20% or so is sport bikes that usually were wrecked and they're trying to rebuild them.
10% is imports, mostly clutches and fork seals.

The two bikes in the shop now are a Street Glide and an old 2000 Kawasaki 1200 that was laid down. 
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2015, 08:45:06 PM »

LONG LIVE DAC!!! cooldude
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2015, 05:39:10 AM »

I'd say 70% of my mechanic work is Harley.
20% or so is sport bikes that usually were wrecked and they're trying to rebuild them.
10% is imports, mostly clutches and fork seals.

The two bikes in the shop now are a Street Glide and an old 2000 Kawasaki 1200 that was laid down.  
first of all you should be thankful that Harley builds millions of bikes so that you are able to make a living at what you like to do...seems to me if it weren't for Harley you would be out of work...also out of all the bikes you work on, which ones are the easiest to get parts for? if you have 10 Hondas for every thousand Harleys of course you are going to be working on more Harleys... and if you dont think Hondas break down go read Warrens GOTF post...
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2015, 06:11:35 AM »

Yeah,.....but how do you make a Harley run like a Valk? Grin 2funny Grin 2funny
I don't know, but you can make a Valkyrie run like a Harley by pulling 4 plug wires.
Still don't think it will shake as bad.
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Big Al of Tennessee
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2015, 07:08:06 AM »



OUT Sourcing, is what all companies do.

But where is the company based, selling, mostly produced, and has allegiance to?

Hating a company, that feeds your kin folks, is not logical, but hate never is, is it.
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2015, 07:14:30 AM »

If it has two wheels,,,, I likeeee.  Wink
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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2015, 07:16:18 AM »

I'd say 70% of my mechanic work is Harley.
20% or so is sport bikes that usually were wrecked and they're trying to rebuild them.
10% is imports, mostly clutches and fork seals.

The two bikes in the shop now are a Street Glide and an old 2000 Kawasaki 1200 that was laid down. 

Isn't the ratio of H-D to all other Cruisers like 8:1 ?

If so, your numbers are within limits of normal.

I know several folks who own late model H-Ds and they are happy and garage floors are clean.  There are a couple models that I really like and would/have considered, buuut, the overall size of the bikes are just too small for me.  Sitting in them made me feel like I was sitting on a bicycle.  

About the oil spot.  We use to prank H-D riders at a show I used to go to several years back.  We'd pour just a little cola on the ground under a bike and guys would go nuts trying to figure out what was wrong.   Evil
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2015, 07:19:59 AM »



OUT Sourcing, is what all companies do.

But where is the company based, selling, mostly produced, and has allegiance to?

Hating a company, that feeds your kin folks, is not logical, but hate never is, is it.


Didn't see any posts with hatred in them. 
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2015, 07:22:53 AM »

I'd say 70% of my mechanic work is Harley.
20% or so is sport bikes that usually were wrecked and they're trying to rebuild them.
10% is imports, mostly clutches and fork seals.

The two bikes in the shop now are a Street Glide and an old 2000 Kawasaki 1200 that was laid down.  
first of all you should be thankful that Harley builds millions of bikes so that you are able to make a living at what you like to do...seems to me if it weren't for Harley you would be out of work...also out of all the bikes you work on, which ones are the easiest to get parts for? if you have 10 Hondas for every thousand Harleys of course you are going to be working on more Harleys... and if you dont think Hondas break down go read Warrens GOTF post...

He did say thank you in his previous post.
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2015, 07:55:49 AM »

                                               Saw a bike just north of 132 on 59 in northern ill
                                 it had a harley front end and rear fender and lites, harley tank and bags, said
                                 HD all over it, only thing was when I stopped to look close, it had a 1100 flat 4
                                 older gold wing engine, radiator, and drive shaft rear.......very clean...
                                 had 46000 on the odometer.. asking price 4250.00 OBO. I would consider it if I
                                 didnt already have my valkyrie, would be neet to have in the garage.
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2015, 09:04:30 AM »

                                               Saw a bike just north of 132 on 59 in northern ill
                                 it had a harley front end and rear fender and lites, harley tank and bags, said
                                 HD all over it, only thing was when I stopped to look close, it had a 1100 flat 4
                                 older gold wing engine, radiator, and drive shaft rear.......very clean...
                                 had 46000 on the odometer.. asking price 4250.00 OBO. I would consider it if I
                                 didnt already have my valkyrie, would be neet to have in the garage.
i wonder if that was the bike built in tyler texas about 1978 or so.. if so, yea it was done up right..
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2015, 09:07:06 AM »

I'd say 70% of my mechanic work is Harley.
20% or so is sport bikes that usually were wrecked and they're trying to rebuild them.
10% is imports, mostly clutches and fork seals.

The two bikes in the shop now are a Street Glide and an old 2000 Kawasaki 1200 that was laid down. 

Isn't the ratio of H-D to all other Cruisers like 8:1 ?

If so, your numbers are within limits of normal.

I know several folks who own late model H-Ds and they are happy and garage floors are clean.  There are a couple models that I really like and would/have considered, buuut, the overall size of the bikes are just too small for me.  Sitting in them made me feel like I was sitting on a bicycle. 

About the oil spot.  We use to prank H-D riders at a show I used to go to several years back.  We'd pour just a little cola on the ground under a bike and guys would go nuts trying to figure out what was wrong.   Evil
next time use pancake syrup but since the chain oilers are no longer put it up near the front of the engine and put a little between the jugs,,,it will drive them crazy and they will get so pissed,, then when they find out what it is they will all have a good laff... go ahead and ask me how i know this...
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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2015, 10:11:30 AM »

I think I will do the pancake syrup joke to my HD crazy neighbor as well as the HD crazy co-worker at work, especially the guy at work I don't like since I know I can get away with that easier in the parking lot at work than my HD neighbor having his HD park right outside his house in front of his living room window.  The HD guy at work and me have gotten into a few heated arguments at work enough so I almost got him fired a few times and right now he is on the chopping block for being an arrogant A-hole.  He should have been fired years ago, but his new boss is seeing his arrogant ways as well. He has since the past few months been very quiet and nearly non-visible, just the way I like it. 

Don't you dare say one bad thing about HD to them, they will defend HD literally to their death.  If it isn't HD, it ain't worth riding is their attitude. 

My HD neighbor told me he spent around 5 grand in repairs at HD shop on the engine and blowing a belt as well early on in it's life.  I made the mistake of telling someone that we both know that his HD needed 5K in repairs soon afterwards.  My HD nut neighbor marched on over and said don't I dare tell anyone my HD broke down needing repairs.  I told him then next time don't tell me.  He's probably got easily 18-20K in upgrades/repairs/initial used purchase price on his 10K valued 2003 Ultra Classic.  He may think he has a 15K bike now, but highly doubt he will get anywhere close to that in today's market where HD's are everywhere used for sale.  He did tell me just a few years ago when he gets a tad older (say over 60 soon), he will sell his HD ultra classic and buy either a can am spyder or goldwing (trike probably). 

Back on topic, I try not to make my all black I/S look like a Harley (has iron horse tank bib and pouch along with leather straps dangling from the leather handgrips is all), but once in the parking lot two HD dudes came on over and staired at my bike until they saw the Honda logo and quietly backed away.  Had a good laugh on that one from a distance walking back to my bike.  You would think just the sheer girth of the chrome engine would give it away without having to get up close and wondering if HD came out with a new engine?


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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2015, 10:29:05 AM »



I put a  load of rice under a buddies Yammie. When he came out of the rest room he asked: "whats this"? I told him his bike was sick, threw up.
Any bike leaks especially the older ones. I don't care what brand they are! I looked at a brand new Indian Chief last year at the dealer and there was a puddle of oil under it. I asked the salesman what was up? He said the bike needed to be ridden. I said OK, how bout fixed, it leaks. Never been on the road.
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2015, 01:06:17 PM »

I think I will do the pancake syrup joke to my HD crazy neighbor as well as the HD crazy co-worker at work, especially the guy at work I don't like since I know I can get away with that easier in the parking lot at work than my HD neighbor having his HD park right outside his house in front of his living room window.  The HD guy at work and me have gotten into a few heated arguments at work enough so I almost got him fired a few times and right now he is on the chopping block for being an arrogant A-hole.  He should have been fired years ago, but his new boss is seeing his arrogant ways as well. He has since the past few months been very quiet and nearly non-visible, just the way I like it. 

Don't you dare say one bad thing about HD to them, they will defend HD literally to their death.  If it isn't HD, it ain't worth riding is their attitude. 

My HD neighbor told me he spent around 5 grand in repairs at HD shop on the engine and blowing a belt as well early on in it's life.  I made the mistake of telling someone that we both know that his HD needed 5K in repairs soon afterwards.  My HD nut neighbor marched on over and said don't I dare tell anyone my HD broke down needing repairs.  I told him then next time don't tell me.  He's probably got easily 18-20K in upgrades/repairs/initial used purchase price on his 10K valued 2003 Ultra Classic.  He may think he has a 15K bike now, but highly doubt he will get anywhere close to that in today's market where HD's are everywhere used for sale.  He did tell me just a few years ago when he gets a tad older (say over 60 soon), he will sell his HD ultra classic and buy either a can am spyder or goldwing (trike probably). 

Back on topic, I try not to make my all black I/S look like a Harley (has iron horse tank bib and pouch along with leather straps dangling from the leather handgrips is all), but once in the parking lot two HD dudes came on over and staired at my bike until they saw the Honda logo and quietly backed away.  Had a good laugh on that one from a distance walking back to my bike.  You would think just the sheer girth of the chrome engine would give it away without having to get up close and wondering if HD came out with a new engine?



aunt jamima,, looks just like 50 wt oil,,,hmmm come to think of it..
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2015, 01:24:26 PM »

Not that I give two good craps what anyone rides or what they think of what I ride coolsmiley I had a patient on Monday with a broken ankle that had hit a dog on his Harley (that is what he put in his description of accident line) he noticed my white stripe on my face from my helmet strap and ask what I rode and I said I had a Valkyrie he chuckled and said a Honda? I said yup I have two of them and sold my Street glide when I bought my second Valk. He ask why and I said a couple reasons  first reason was it was under powered and second it wasn't big enough for me and the wife riding two up and he said you know Harley makes bigger bikes don't you I said yeah an Ultra is built on the same frame a the street glide they just threw a tour pack on and changed a bit of suspension he looked puzzled,I told him I had ridden an Ultra that a friend has and still not enough room and still under powered. I ask if his bike was hurt bad and he said totaled and he wouldn't be able to talk his wife into " letting him have another"  2funny 2funny
Big bad biker letting his wife tell him he can't ride 2funny tells me he wasn't a rider but a poser to start with coolsmiley
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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2015, 01:34:48 PM »

I even sat on a goldwing (1520 and 1832cc) and it felt cramped in quarters for 2 people more so than my Valk I/S.  I know HD's are more crowded since my neighbors Ultra Classic seating surfaces are much closer together, but we are heavier than those 2, especially him being 150lbs. ringing wet at 5'6" and me only 5'10" but 285lbs. 

The goldwing also sits you it seems like more upfront and upwards closer to the plastics even more so than the new F6B which felt had more wiggle room for sure when I sat on it at a dealer.   Maybe it is just me though??  Roll Eyes

As far as using Aunt Jamima,  NO way,  I will stick to the cheapo generic syrup for I am not wasting that good of money on a HD joke.  Will be more like 10w oil vs. 50w then, oh well.   2funny
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2015, 02:08:21 PM »

Ha.  Sorry I didn't mean to activate the Harley Defense Force.  I'll stand down.
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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2015, 03:37:07 PM »

Last time I looked this was a Honda Valkyrie board, says right at the top "Valkyrie Riders Cruiser Club"...You guys that use to ride valks but have moved on, ask if we'll still ride with you, we say sure we don't care what you ride...but when someone jokes around about Harley's you take it personally and then start attacking us because we don't support American workers etc, last time I looked my valks are made in USA, or that our bikes break down too....all machinery breaks down sooner then later.....you want to stay friends with the folks you met here, do so....but don't come here telling us we're not good americans become we don't support a company that makes Harley's, that probably has half of its parts made somewhere else....try joining a Harley riding club on valkyrie and it wouldn't matter how many of your friends were Harley riders they wouldn't let you in... Angry
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« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2015, 06:20:48 PM »

That was good said. Wink
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2015, 05:14:46 AM »

Last time I looked this was a Honda Valkyrie board, says right at the top "Valkyrie Riders Cruiser Club"...You guys that use to ride valks but have moved on, ask if we'll still ride with you, we say sure we don't care what you ride...but when someone jokes around about Harley's you take it personally and then start attacking us because we don't support American workers etc, last time I looked my valks are made in USA, or that our bikes break down too....all machinery breaks down sooner then later.....you want to stay friends with the folks you met here, do so....but don't come here telling us we're not good americans become we don't support a company that makes Harley's, that probably has half of its parts made somewhere else....try joining a Harley riding club on valkyrie and it wouldn't matter how many of your friends were Harley riders they wouldn't let you in... Angry
well ya got me on this one.. I dont remember bashing any one,,why you got your panties in a ruffle anyway? seems to me you are trying to start something here and it aint gonna work with me,, go get yourself a cup of coffee and relax a little and try to forget about that volvo driver that cut you off a bit go..
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« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2015, 05:17:47 AM »

I even sat on a goldwing (1520 and 1832cc) and it felt cramped in quarters for 2 people more so than my Valk I/S.  I know HD's are more crowded since my neighbors Ultra Classic seating surfaces are much closer together, but we are heavier than those 2, especially him being 150lbs. ringing wet at 5'6" and me only 5'10" but 285lbs. 

The goldwing also sits you it seems like more upfront and upwards closer to the plastics even more so than the new F6B which felt had more wiggle room for sure when I sat on it at a dealer.   Maybe it is just me though??  Roll Eyes

As far as using Aunt Jamima,  NO way,  I will stick to the cheapo generic syrup for I am not wasting that good of money on a HD joke.  Will be more like 10w oil vs. 50w then, oh well.   2funny
watch him for a bit trying to find the leak and then fold a waffle in half and dip it in the syrup and take a bite of it and say something like dam thats good oil,,
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« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2015, 05:36:36 AM »

Well, wouldn't consider myself a Harley hater but I do razz friends that ride them. A guy at work has two, a 1970 sportster and a late 80's early 90's bagger. The sportster is pretty nice, fresh paint and some custom chrome work. The other day he was telling me about a ride that was coming up and said it was quite a cruise. Then he said that he didn't know how the sportsters make it without stopping for gas. I looked right at him completely straight faced and said, maybe they carry extra fuel in there purses.  Hey, all in fun. cooldude  oh yeah, he had rode a friends Valkyrie before so he knows what they are all about.
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« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2015, 06:13:46 AM »

Well, wouldn't consider myself a Harley hater but I do razz friends that ride them. A guy at work has two, a 1970 sportster and a late 80's early 90's bagger. The sportster is pretty nice, fresh paint and some custom chrome work. The other day he was telling me about a ride that was coming up and said it was quite a cruise. Then he said that he didn't know how the sportsters make it without stopping for gas. I looked right at him completely straight faced and said, maybe they carry extra fuel in there purses.  Hey, all in fun. cooldude  oh yeah, he had rode a friends Valkyrie before so he knows what they are all about.

do you know what harleys and puppy dogs have in common?
they both like to ride in pick ups and leave puddles on the side of the road,
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« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2015, 06:50:52 AM »

I try to respect other riders and their choice of machinery, so I don't start any of the razing.  But I can dish it out as well as take it.  Last year, I met a rider who rode a Harley trike around the country.  Even after I showed him and others the nickel demonstration, he started razing me that I needed six cylinders to get around while he needed only two.  I told him that I had nothing against V-twins, they have their place, I have one in my lawn mower (tractor).  Not much more was said...
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« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2015, 07:37:44 AM »

Well, wouldn't consider myself a Harley hater but I do razz friends that ride them. A guy at work has two, a 1970 sportster and a late 80's early 90's bagger. The sportster is pretty nice, fresh paint and some custom chrome work. The other day he was telling me about a ride that was coming up and said it was quite a cruise. Then he said that he didn't know how the sportsters make it without stopping for gas. I looked right at him completely straight faced and said, maybe they carry extra fuel in there purses.  Hey, all in fun. cooldude  oh yeah, he had rode a friends Valkyrie before so he knows what they are all about.

do you know what harleys and puppy dogs have in common?
they both like to ride in pick ups and leave puddles on the side of the road,

That is funny right there. cooldude 
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« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2015, 07:44:43 AM »

I try to respect other riders and their choice of machinery, so I don't start any of the razing.  But I can dish it out as well as take it.  Last year, I met a rider who rode a Harley trike around the country.  Even after I showed him and others the nickel demonstration, he started razing me that I needed six cylinders to get around while he needed only two.  I told him that I had nothing against V-twins, they have their place, I have one in my lawn mower (tractor).  Not much more was said...

o yea i can take it too, as long as you talk about the ride, i enjoy all the little pokes and jabs, but when you talk about me being something i aint, well that gets my dander up..
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« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2015, 07:52:08 AM »

Big Al is on the defensive because he isn't riding a Valkyrie.
He knows that the Valk is far superior, but he needs to justify purchasing his current ride.

But we will let him rant,....We will take the high road.
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« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2015, 07:59:24 AM »

Last time I looked this was a Honda Valkyrie board, says right at the top "Valkyrie Riders Cruiser Club"...You guys that use to ride valks but have moved on, ask if we'll still ride with you, we say sure we don't care what you ride...but when someone jokes around about Harley's you take it personally and then start attacking us because we don't support American workers etc, last time I looked my valks are made in USA, or that our bikes break down too....all machinery breaks down sooner then later.....you want to stay friends with the folks you met here, do so....but don't come here telling us we're not good americans become we don't support a company that makes Harley's, that probably has half of its parts made somewhere else....try joining a Harley riding club on valkyrie and it wouldn't matter how many of your friends were Harley riders they wouldn't let you in... Angry

I tried going onto HD forum for craps and giggles.  Yah, they blackball you once you say you ride a Honda (Valkyrie in this case) and is just as good as a HD.  MY IP address got banned from their site, oh well.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2015, 08:06:15 AM »

This Thread would have gone no where, had I not commented.

Jess Helped.

Thanks for your time and attention, It's a pretty day today, I think I'll go fishing.
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« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2015, 08:13:24 AM »

Passion is passion...HD or Honda...we bought it, we defend it....that is what we do...

The tough part is not letting rebuttles get under your skin. As many have said, face to face we are all different then that person behind a keyboard....

Enjoy your ride as much as i enjoy mine...two wheels is two wheels...all bikes have problems...dont believe me? Check the tech board!  coolsmiley

Ride be safe and have fun!

Peace out! cooldude
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