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« Reply #80 on: December 12, 2016, 03:06:40 PM » |
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« Reply #81 on: December 12, 2016, 03:15:26 PM » |
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« Reply #82 on: December 12, 2016, 03:40:32 PM » |
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Green Party AKA Democrat puppets
Hardly. I would imagine the Democrat would like to have those Green Party votes about now. They seem to be big supporters of giving people in an entry level job (fast food) 15 bucks an hour. While giving someone that has been trained and even gone to school (EMS) a smaller wage. Because everyone knows fast food workers are much smarter than your average EMT?  thats just one thing I find wrong with the Green Party.while I agree they may not be puppets for Democrats entirely they have a lot in common. |
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« Reply #83 on: December 12, 2016, 03:49:28 PM » |
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A lot of good a recount did huh? Just proves democrats are sore losers She was the Green Party nominee.  She was a puppet, being backed and supported by the Democrats... Plus the Green and D parties are two sides of the same coin. Recount my middle finger. |
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« Reply #84 on: December 12, 2016, 03:51:26 PM » |
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Still ain't over. Now I understand via the fair and balanced news that the Clinton camp wants an inquiry into any relationship Trump may have had with the "Russian meddling".
There seems to be some kind of left-wing righteous indignation that it is or should be okay to be corrupt and engage in corrupt politics and shenanigans but the blame should be put on those who bring the facts to light instead of placing blame where blame is due.
I am thinking there is a bunch more to this PizzaGate thing that has yet to come out but that is a different subject. Am thinking that this whole Russian interferance BS is just to get the focus off of something else the Washington establishment are scared $hitless over.
Yes, left wing dings...I am including establishment Repubs in that as well.
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« Reply #85 on: December 12, 2016, 04:32:30 PM » |
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Hardly. I would imagine the Democrat would like to have those Green Party votes about now. You think that would have made a difference to the electoral vote? (And I've used one of your favorite emoticons just for you) Ya know. How Presidential elections are decided in the USA |
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« Reply #86 on: December 12, 2016, 04:53:28 PM » |
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What I find amusing is that assuming, without conceding, the Russians had something to do with the hacked D party/candidate emails, all that negative information that came out was honest (though embarrassing) truth about dirty D dealing amongst themselves and others. Wherever it came from, it was true (and we thank you whoever you are).
On the other hand, all the lying, slanting, attack from the American MSM was simply 24 X 7 generated hate mail for the candidate they hated. They spent (and made) millions trying to throw the election their way by lies, half truths, PC spin, and Hillary cheer-leading, and fell on their dicks (little tiny socialist ones).
If the Russians did it, we should give them one of those Freedom Medals the Zero likes to toss around like.... Holiday candy.
The recount and the Russian connection is just more hate mail, hating the result of the election.
You lost because your program sucks from top to bottom; quit trying to deflect it to something else.
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« Reply #88 on: December 12, 2016, 05:09:49 PM » |
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What I find amusing is that assuming, without conceding, the Russians had something to do with the hacked D party/candidate emails, all that negative information that came out was honest (though embarrassing) truth about dirty D dealing amongst themselves and others. Wherever it came from, it was true (and we thank you whoever you are).
On the other hand, all the lying, slanting, attack from the American MSM was simply 24 X 7 generated hate mail for the candidate they hated. They spent (and made) millions trying to throw the election their way by lies, half truths, PC spin, and Hillary cheer-leading, and fell on their dicks (little tiny socialist ones).
If the Russians did it, we should give them one of those Freedom Medals the Zero likes to toss around like.... Holiday candy.
The recount and the Russian connection is just more hate mail, hating the result of the election.
You lost because your program sucks from top to bottom; quit trying to deflect it to something else.
Oh come on it was the deplorables it was Comey it was Facebook it was the alt-right it was fake news it was angry white men it was the Russians it was the man in the moon She didn't get the votes needed to win the electoral college and some on this forum are unable to process this fact. She didn't get the votes needed to win the electoral college and many are unable to understand. It's a joke. |
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« Reply #89 on: December 12, 2016, 05:10:37 PM » |
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« Reply #90 on: December 12, 2016, 05:11:35 PM » |
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Hardly. I would imagine the Democrat would like to have those Green Party votes about now. You think that would have made a difference to the electoral vote? (And I've used one of your favorite emoticons just for you) Ya know. How Presidential elections are decided in the USA By my count if Clinton had received the Green Parties votes, she would have won Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. That would have put her at 280. You know they need 270 ? |
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« Reply #93 on: December 12, 2016, 06:12:02 PM » |
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« Reply #95 on: December 12, 2016, 06:37:12 PM » |
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« Reply #96 on: December 12, 2016, 07:13:53 PM » |
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I wonder how many times the CIA tried to interfere in other country's elections?
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« Reply #97 on: December 12, 2016, 07:14:56 PM » |
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« Reply #98 on: December 12, 2016, 07:30:24 PM » |
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I wonder how many times the CIA tried to interfere in other country's elections?
Doubt we will ever know. Pot calling the kettle black
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« Reply #99 on: December 12, 2016, 07:40:44 PM » |
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I wonder how many times the CIA tried to interfere in other country's elections?
Doubt we will ever know. Pot calling the kettle black
No doubt we have many things to other countries that we don't want done to us. I think there is also no doubt that our enemies would try that stuff against us. That doesn't mean we should bend over and take it. Seems to me some are picking and choosing when to bend over? Not consistant! |
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« Reply #100 on: December 12, 2016, 07:47:14 PM » |
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I wonder how many times the CIA tried to interfere in other country's elections?
Doubt we will ever know. Pot calling the kettle black
No doubt we have many things to other countries that we don't want done to us. I think there is also no doubt that our enemies would try that stuff against us. That doesn't mean we should bend over and take it. Seems to me some are picking and choosing when to bend over? Not consistant! In a perfect world there would be no meddling in other countries affairs. Doesn't mean I'm willing to let the Russians meddle in ours. I have no desire or reason to stick up for foreign countries who the CIA has meddled with. I do have the desire and reason to keep them out of ours. |
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« Reply #101 on: December 12, 2016, 07:54:49 PM » |
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Whether or not the Russians tried to sway the election toward Trump or not, isn't really a big concern for me,
Couldn't disagree more with you on this Ron. To me it's a huge deal. I don't expect anything to change this election. But we better figure out a strategy to keep our enemies from meddling in our elections. |
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« Reply #102 on: December 12, 2016, 07:58:54 PM » |
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Whether or not the Russians tried to sway the election toward Trump or not, isn't really a big concern for me,
Couldn't disagree more with you on this Ron. To me it's a huge deal. I don't expect anything to change this election. But we better figure out a strategy to keep our enemies from meddling in our elections. Pipe dream. I do not see that happening any quicker than I see us stop meddling in other countries business. All this is going to do is spend a ton of our money. And,,, yes Obama has been a part of that,, and heard no democrats whining! |
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« Reply #103 on: December 12, 2016, 08:03:34 PM » |
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At this point the CIA does not have concrete proof!
According to the FBi all they (the CIA) are banking these statements on are traces of a program that many, including Russia, have used to hack with. Please read that sentence again for full understanding.
Once again what we may have is a bit of corruption going on in the CIA to sway or taint the election? Nawwww, not from the Obama Administration...nawwwwww.
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« Reply #104 on: December 12, 2016, 08:06:38 PM » |
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At this point the CIA does not have concrete proof!
According to the FBi all they (the CIA) are banking these statements on are traces of a program that many, including Russia, have used to hack with. Please read that sentence again for full understanding.
Once again what we may have is a bit of corruption going on in the CIA to sway or taint the election? Nawwww, not from the Obama Administration...nawwwwww.
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« Reply #105 on: December 12, 2016, 08:17:28 PM » |
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Whether or not the Russians tried to sway the election toward Trump or not, isn't really a big concern for me,
Couldn't disagree more with you on this Ron. To me it's a huge deal. I don't expect anything to change this election. But we better figure out a strategy to keep our enemies from meddling in our elections. Do you mean like having honest leadership, a National Party scheming to screw one of their candidates, or political leaders lying, spinning the truth or maybe an honest and neutral press or, do you mean like having better security for private written communications that other's can't hack and let out into public. I have no problem with an investigation of what the Russians supposedly did but, if what is reported is true and the emails released, I'm not so sure we shouldn't be thanking them. I believe the lesson to be learned for all is, don't put it down on paper or in the form of an email or text if, you don't want the world to read it. Kind of like the internet.  |
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« Reply #106 on: December 12, 2016, 08:26:03 PM » |
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« Reply #107 on: December 12, 2016, 08:28:39 PM » |
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At this point the CIA does not have concrete proof!
According to the FBi all they (the CIA) are banking these statements on are traces of a program that many, including Russia, have used to hack with. Please read that sentence again for full understanding.
Once again what we may have is a bit of corruption going on in the CIA to sway or taint the election? Nawwww, not from the Obama Administration...nawwwwww.
Not exactly. The FBI bases its findings more towards can they support their findings in a court of law. The CIA doesn't have that restraint. Again, show us a single document or official statement from the CIA. I'm not saying it did or didn't happen but, my lord, if you can't see the motivation to skew the Trump win, you definitely drank too much of the Kool Aid.. From Obama and all the way down the ladder (to include our Liberal media), the Dems are trying to blame everyone but themselves. Also, do you really think other countries aren't trying to influence our elections, sway public opinion, move the American people one direction or another? How about our own media, news and let's not forget Hollywood and what they portray in movies and on TV. It's all meant to be cultural brainwashing. Hell, our own government has done it to it's own population. Do I like the fact that any country is trying to effect our elections, no. Do I expect it, damn right I do. Should we do everything possible to keep other entities from exposing our corrupt officials? I guess that depends on whether or not the person is corrupted or, rooting for the corrupted. Lots of free stuff out there that someone else has to pay for, ya know. |
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« Reply #108 on: December 12, 2016, 09:09:14 PM » |
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At this point the CIA does not have concrete proof!
According to the FBi all they (the CIA) are banking these statements on are traces of a program that many, including Russia, have used to hack with. Please read that sentence again for full understanding.
Once again what we may have is a bit of corruption going on in the CIA to sway or taint the election? Nawwww, not from the Obama Administration...nawwwwww.
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« Reply #110 on: December 13, 2016, 01:22:03 AM » |
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Where is interference with the election? None.
Emails were obtained, by someone, possibly Russian, but not proven, and released.
If any damage was done, it was the CONTENT of those emails that did the damage.
Not ONE of the emails released was ever contested as to its authenticity. Not one. They were true.
The voters had more information, not less. Are you arguing voters should have fewer facts? The corruption of Hillary's campaign was exposed for all to see.
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« Reply #111 on: December 13, 2016, 01:24:35 AM » |
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Security of ALL electronic media needs to be a top priority of both government and business. Hacking, theft, etc is out of control.
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Maybe I'm missing something here but we are arguing that the Russians may have swayed the election by revealing Hillary's emails that were supposed to be on a secure server. That the FBI said didn't see a reason to prosecute Hillary for , but because of the Russians we found out that there were all kinds of corruption in the Hillary camp. Then when she looses the election due to corruption revealed, we have the results being challenged by a green party that is socialistic and really communism that had less that 3 percent of the votes and the recount in Wisconsin actually gave Trump a bigger led and now we have the senators and congress who doesn't like Trump trying desperately to find something wrong. Even when Federal judges stopped the vote count in 2 states. This speaks nothing of the effort to corrupt the electoral college in swaying their votes and not following the law and people wishes. Sounds like we have people who are trying to take our established system of government away because it doesn't fit their ideas. What a twisted logic and load of garbage is this liberal logic that winks at corruption in the Obama and Hillary admin even goes so far as to prosecute whistle blowers, but then calls foul when it doesn't go their way and cant seem to understand that the corruption started under their own liberal admin. Not even stopping when investigations has found no evidence of vote tampering. I would go so far to say as the ones that are arguing this point are the ones that have lost the way of truth and fairness and themselves a slave of the system in that they have forgotten how to have each man rule and live as a freeman and not ruled or guided by government. They have lost the meaning of government by and for the people but look at it as people by and for the government. They cannot establish the truth or even uphold the rule of law no matter what way it comes out. Truly lost, like a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah that can look at evil and call it good and look at good and call it evil. Then justify any sort of move to sway the results themselves. I say that the tables were turned that every evil trick and plan that this admin and Hillary did along with the media to sway the results and hide corruption and formulate a plan to change the US came crashing down in a torrent of deserved failings they cannot understand. Just like the criminals they are, that got their deserved punishment but still doesn't accept the guilt they so deserve. Everyone in prison is innocent just like we see now and contrary to the FBI statement about Hillary that it could find intent or no reason to prosecute. Now we find the intent, to take over the US of A at all cost and have corruption rule, by blinded, jaded officials that cannot follow the rule of law themselves.  Just speaking of intent how about certain Hillary donors asking for their money back ? I think one thing that scares me the most is we see everyday some new voice saying the elections were rigged that we never heard ever before and wouldn't have heard at all if Hillary was elected. These are the corrupt ones pointing themselves out like a light in the night to say we legitimize every evil intent and justify every evil action under the cloak of respectability. This kind of evil we see should scare and concern all since it has no loyalty, is self serving, can be swayed in an instant, does not support the greater good, it is not democrat or republican and does not look at people like people. |
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« Reply #113 on: December 13, 2016, 04:02:22 AM » |
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What I am truly amazed at is this:
Put the content of the leaked emails aside. How can it be that you guys are still worried about emails, when it's alleged that the Russians, your sworn enemy (communists) had their cyber fingers in the elections of the good old USA. Shouldn't this be the time for a united front, with a common focus? I've actually seen people on this board, basically shrugging their shoulders when asked about alleged tampering. I shudder to think what the outrage would be if the Republicans were the aggrieved party.
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« Reply #114 on: December 13, 2016, 04:18:06 AM » |
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What I am truly amazed at is this:
Put the content of the leaked emails aside. How can it be that you guys are still worried about emails, when it's alleged that the Russians, your sworn enemy (communists) had their cyber fingers in the elections of the good old USA. Shouldn't this be the time for a united front, with a common focus? I've actually seen people on this board, basically shrugging their shoulders when asked about alleged tampering. I shudder to think what the outrage would be if the Republicans were the aggrieved party.
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« Reply #115 on: December 13, 2016, 04:50:44 AM » |
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What I am truly amazed at is this:
Put the content of the leaked emails aside. How can it be that you guys are still worried about emails, when it's alleged that the Russians, your sworn enemy (communists) had their cyber fingers in the elections of the good old USA. Shouldn't this be the time for a united front, with a common focus? I've actually seen people on this board, basically shrugging their shoulders when asked about alleged tampering. I shudder to think what the outrage would be if the Republicans were the aggrieved party.
The content of the emails is what might have had some impact. The CONTENT! No accusation of ELECTION fraud. I said, we NEED to stop ALL hacking. Right? Assume the the Russians ARE response single, and we prove it. Tell me what what should be done? War? Sanctions? |
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« Reply #117 on: December 13, 2016, 05:33:14 AM » |
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What I am truly amazed at is this:
Put the content of the leaked emails aside. How can it be that you guys are still worried about emails, when it's alleged that the Russians, your sworn enemy (communists) had their cyber fingers in the elections of the good old USA. Shouldn't this be the time for a united front, with a common focus? I've actually seen people on this board, basically shrugging their shoulders when asked about alleged tampering. I shudder to think what the outrage would be if the Republicans were the aggrieved party.
I am amazed that the FBI said there was no hacking, the Wisconsin recount actually gave Trump more votes and the CIA said that they only found hacking in the emails and you guys still have a problem with understanding and letting go and try to push a non issue. That I am just stunned at. If you guys believe that the Russians influenced the decision in any other way than revealing the corrupt nature of Hillary and Bill Clinton you are fooling yourselves. Thank God they did it because I sure did not hear any liberals do it, sadly. Besides it makes it so much easier to blame the Russians for the loss rather than a corrupt, ill planned, media pushed, result that failed. Why didn't we hear any liberals saying anything about the corrupt nature of the Clinton's? To me this is the real stunner and brings into question your thinking and morals that the means justifies the end result regardless of the corruption. That is the real head turner. |
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« Reply #118 on: December 13, 2016, 05:53:42 AM » |
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I hear basically 3 people keeping this post going.
I want to ask why is it that we cannot reject Hillary who is a corrupt person and is corrupt on so many levels not enough reason to reject her and her one world ideals, regardless of who revealed it and the amount of scandals she has been in?
Why is it not enough reason to accept yet call all here oblivious and uninformed not only about who Donald is but call into question the dislike of Hillary. Why is it you don't question yourself as not seeing something that a good portion of people do?
I again don't understand how you could endorse and vote for Hillary being so outwardly corrupt.
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What I am truly amazed at is this:
Put the content of the leaked emails aside. How can it be that you guys are still worried about emails, when it's alleged that the Russians, your sworn enemy (communists) had their cyber fingers in the elections of the good old USA. Shouldn't this be the time for a united front, with a common focus? I've actually seen people on this board, basically shrugging their shoulders when asked about alleged tampering. I shudder to think what the outrage would be if the Republicans were the aggrieved party.
What did they tamper with? Emails? How could they do that? Take a guess. What else did they tamper with? I want to know. Just saying they had their "cyber fingers" in the election as accused by someone is not proof? I ain't shrugging my shoulders,, but I want proof. And don't go to the emails,, as we know why they were hacked and whose fault that was. |
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