Mail In Voting, 2020?

[Willow]

All the more reason to bolster the Postal Service versus hobble it.

Good thing President Trump isn't hobbling the USPS.
https://www.facebook.com/memepoliceman/photos/a.1509554889338469/2406815529612396/?type=3&theater

yeah, according to Willow, he doesn't lie either. 

I assume this is the post to which meathead refers as it's one of only two of mine that include the word lie.

Please note that I didn't say the President has never spoken incorrectly or even that he didn't ever "lie".  I did say that the long list of alleged lies is laughable.  Even your short list invokes a response of, "Are you kidding!" 
...

I'm getting really weary of this.  I have an unreasonably low threshold for dishonest jabs and stupidity.

[f6gal]

And this is the reason Trump is trying to hobble the Postal System ?

I ask this in all sincerity, it's not a gotcha question.  What has Trump being doing to hobble the USPS?  

If you're talking about funding, that's the job of Congress.  As far as I know, Congress has not passed a bill with increased funding for USPS.

Connie, it's not just the funding. Although he did admit that he didn't want them to get it in order to stop mail voting. The hobbling started some time back and continues. In a time that we are in with Covid, the Postal System plays a vital role in our society. The Trump administration thru its appointed Board and Postmaster General have intentionally curtailed overtime and created rules that slow down the system. In my book that defined as hobbling. As far as Congress not passing a bill, the Senate leader has thrown up his hands and delegated all negotiations to the Trump admin. It's in their court.

The USPS has been operating in the red for ages.  I believe the PMG was put in place to attempt to get that under control.  IMO, the operating model for the USPS is absurd and was doomed to fail.  It is a quasi government agency that is expected to be self-sustaining through revenue, but, they aren't allowed to show a profit.  So, in the good years, any excess revenue was spent frivolously to avoid budget cuts.  It's a ridiculous business model.  

The senate can't delegate negotiations to the executive branch, that's not the way it works.  The House and the Senate need to stay in session until they can come to an agreement.  I believe the sticking points are items that are completely irrelevant to CoronaVirus.  Since the point of the bill it to address issues related to CV, there should be NO other pork thrown into the bill.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

I guess if we can't agree that McConnel has delegated the negotiations over to Manuchin and Meadows we aren't going to agree on much. 

[Rams]

I honestly don't believe most democrats are silly enough to not understand why an mass mail in vote for this election is inappropriate, un-necessary and un-manageable.   We're just not set up for something like this to ensure a true reflection or Vote of the People.

It's all about the Dems trying to make DJT look bad.   Convince me otherwise.

Rams

Let me see if I understand your objections. You are ok with a mail in system if the voter requests the ballot. But you are against the registered voter being sent one without request. The reason for your objection is that you feel they will be stolen or given to people who are not supposed to vote. That you feel these people will forge the signatures of registered voters and vote for Biden.

Do I understand your objections correctly ?

Answering a question with a question...………..
How about answering my and a few other folks question as asked.   What has the President done to "hobble" the USPS?  That is what you claim...……..

Rams

I see no question in your post.

   OK, let's try this again.
Your response to Connie left out way too many details.   President Trump does not support giving the USPS additional funding is my understanding.   Postmaster General Louis DeJoy has cut overtime for USPS employees.  You do know that the USPS constantly runs at our expense and cant't support itself without Congressional assistance.  BTW, DeJoy is a Logistics Expert, that's why he got the job.''

I just read something from the Washington Post detailing what they say the White House is doing, as usual, it's presented in a totally negative way.   The President has no problem with justifiable mail in votes.   He's stated that numerous times.   My interpretation is that those who request it should get it.  My opinion is that it should be an Absentee Ballot but, that's just me.

What is the President doing to "HOBBLE" the USPS?  Specifics, factual specifics......

Rams

[The emperor has no clothes]

I honestly don't believe most democrats are silly enough to not understand why an mass mail in vote for this election is inappropriate, un-necessary and un-manageable.   We're just not set up for something like this to ensure a true reflection or Vote of the People.

It's all about the Dems trying to make DJT look bad.   Convince me otherwise.

Rams

Let me see if I understand your objections. You are ok with a mail in system if the voter requests the ballot. But you are against the registered voter being sent one without request. The reason for your objection is that you feel they will be stolen or given to people who are not supposed to vote. That you feel these people will forge the signatures of registered voters and vote for Biden.

Do I understand your objections correctly ?

Answering a question with a question...………..
How about answering my and a few other folks question as asked.   What has the President done to "hobble" the USPS?  That is what you claim...……..

Rams

I see no question in your post.

   OK, let's try this again.
Your response to Connie left out way too many details.   President Trump does not support giving the USPS additional funding is my understanding.   Postmaster General Louis DeJoy has cut overtime for USPS employees.  You do know that the USPS constantly runs at our expense and cant't support itself without Congressional assistance.  BTW, DeJoy is a Logistics Expert, that's why he got the job.''

I just read something from the Washington Post detailing what they say the White House is doing, as usual, it's presented in a totally negative way.   The President has no problem with justifiable mail in votes.   He's stated that numerous times.   My interpretation is that those who request it should get it.  My opinion is that it should be an Absentee Ballot but, that's just me.

What is the President doing to "HOBBLE" the USPS?  Specifics, factual specifics......

Rams

If my response to Connie wasn't enough for you, I'm sorry.

[Bighead]

Rob only city carriers get any overtime pay to start with, rural carriers get paid a flat rate no matter if it takes them 6 or 20 hrs to deliver said mail. And if they work 8 hrs and something happens that tbey cant finish said route they just worked 8 hrs for free. BTW most routes are rural routes here even most of them are in the city they are still classified as rural.

[Rams]

OK, let's try this.
What's wrong with anyone who wants to vote by mail request an Absentee Ballot?   
We're already set up for that.   

Rams

[The emperor has no clothes]

Rob only city carriers get any overtime pay to start with, rural carriers get paid a flat rate no matter if it takes them 6 or 20 hrs to deliver said mail. And if they work 8 hrs and something happens that tbey cant finish said route they just worked 8 hrs for free. BTW most routes are rural routes here even most of them are in the city they are still classified as rural.

I'm sure that is correct, as you have much more knowledge of the Postal system than I do. I'm pretty sure that's how a lot of Alaska was and is. They had to drive and maintain their own vehicles. I imagine most of the issues arise in the towns and cities as to sorting and overtime.

[The emperor has no clothes]

OK, let's try this.
What's wrong with anyone who wants to vote by mail request an Absentee Ballot?   
We're already set up for that.   

Rams

There is nothing wrong with people requesting a ballot. There is also nothing wrong with the way these guys have been doing it for years.
https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/pages/voteinor.aspx

[scooperhsd]

Sorting the mail is done by the USPS in several "processing plants". I seem to remember there are like 6-7 main regions, then the mail gets processed  down further and further until it arrives at your "Local Post Office" all sorted for each route in the delivery order for that route.

Yes, I've done IT support for the USPS during my career.

[f6john]

Robs definition of hobbling the Post Office is Trump not bending over and providing the lube for the job. Your welcome Rob, I saved you some time.

[Rams]

OK, let's try this.
What's wrong with anyone who wants to vote by mail request an Absentee Ballot?  
We're already set up for that.  

Rams

There is nothing wrong with people requesting a ballot. There is also nothing wrong with the way these guys have been doing it for years.
https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/pages/voteinor.aspx

That's my understanding also, Oregon has been doing it for years.   OK, they are set up for it.   What about all the other states?   States that aren't set up for such an election.

We have already seen what a huge change to the Unemployment System has done.   I have friends who still haven't received any money.   One friend is still owed over $12,000 in wages.   Yeah, making sweeping changes in a short time is a real good idea.   

Convincing me this isn't just another ploy to put President Trump in a negative light isn't going to be easy.   And I don't personally care for DJT.   Speaker Pelosi and Minority Leader Schumer will do anything to get President Trump out of office, they've proven it time and time again (along with several other Dems).   Liberals and Progressives, Democrats as a whole have some very sorry leadership.   The lack of integrity is amazing.   I'm embarrassed to be a Registered Democrat but, every vote I cast is intended to make it a more Conservative "Party".

Rams

[Jersey mike]

Here try to make heads or tails out of this. Is the USPS a private business or govt agency.

It seems they have the power of both.

After reading this I’m not sure what they are. I was always under the impression that the USPS is not a branch of the Fed, but were heavily protected by the Fed for obvious reasons, Mail fraud, tampering, theft and so on.

https://www.thoughtco.com/about-the-us-postal-service-3321146

It's a government agency that was given some independence back in the 70's.

Yes I gathered that much.

The USPS needs to adjust its fee schedule. Now a 1st class stamp is $0.55 and Metered Mail is $0.50

The cost of doing business is not cheap. Payroll, pensions, insurance, building operations, vehicles and their insurance along with maintenance, nothing is free or cheap. The USPS should be on par with the cost of FEDEX, UPS and other delivery companies. If that means the cost of a stamp goes up to $0.75 then so be it. Their operating costs cannot be lumped into a stimulus plan or continue to burden the taxpayers with continued supplemental funds. The use of electronic “mail delivery” is not going to decrease in the future. For instance, if we here in our house mail 10 items a month it’s a lot. We pay almost everything online. This day in age $0.75 is not expensive to mail a letter. The absurdity is the USPS is suppose to be revenue neutral, they should be permitted a 3 year limit for revenue surplus which cannot be raided for new union or contract negotiations.

[Patrick]

' My opinion is that it should be an Absentee Ballot but, that's just me. '



Its not just you. Its any reasoning person.

[scooperhsd]

The USPS makes the majority of their money delivering those advertising things we get from the grocery stores and other retail type establishments.

I don't know how many of you have noticed, but alot of Amazon shipping is terminated by the USPS as well.

[Jersey mike]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/obama-usps-conspiracy-theory-biden-trump


A 2009 Washington Post article stated, "In the past 20 years, 200,000 mailboxes have vanished from city streets, rural routes and suburban neighborhoods – more than the 175,000 that remain."

"The U.S. Postal Service says it removes 'underperforming' mailboxes – those that collect fewer than 25 pieces of mail a day – after a week-long 'density test,'" the report read, echoing what Frum said last week.

Because of the hysteria over the relocated mailboxes, the USPS said they would not remove any boxes until after the election.

"We are not going to be removing any boxes," USPS spokesman Rod Spurgeon told NBC News. "After the election, we're going to take a look at operations and see what we need and don't need."

However, it wasn't only mailboxes that were on the chopping block during the Obama-Biden administration, 3,653 post offices were targeted to be shut down, according to a 2011 Washington Post article. The United States Postal Service ultimately decided against closing the nearly 3,700 post offices, and cut costs by reducing operating hours.

The USPS was looking to cut costs because it was hemorrhaging money, as the mail delivery service has been doing for decades.

The General Accounting Office, a government agency that provides auditing and analysis for Congress, said, "USPS financial viability continues to be high risk because USPS cannot fund its current level of services and financial obligations from its revenues."

Between fiscal years 2007 and 2019, the USPS netted losses of roughly $78 billion, despite receiving approximately $18 billion each year from American taxpayers.

"USPS's overall financial condition is deteriorating and unsustainable," the GAO's 2019 High-Risk update read. "USPS's total unfunded liabilities and debt have grown to double its annual revenue."

Even Obama knew that the United States Postal Service was a money pit.

In 2016, then-President Obama proposed that the USPS slash 12,000 jobs.

In 2009, Obama compared the USPS with private mail carriers, and pointed out that they were thriving while the USPS consistently struggled.

"I mean, if you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? No, they are," Obama said at a town hall meeting in New Hampshire. "It's the post office that's always having problems."

The National Association of Postal Supervisors President Ted Keating was irked by Obama's USPS insult and fired off a letter to the president.

Keating reportedly said there was "collective disappointment that you chose the Postal Service as a scapegoat and an example of inefficiency."

"Your negative references to the Postal Service without knowledge of the facts was a disservice not only to the members of our organization, but to all postal employees," Keating wrote.

It appears that Obama also tried to kneecap the postal service in some ways.



A video of Obama giving a speech is included at the end of article.

[Jersey mike]

The USPS makes the majority of their money delivering those advertising things we get from the grocery stores and other retail type establishments.

I don't know how many of you have noticed, but alot of Amazon shipping is terminated by the USPS as well.

About the Amazon delivery...the President has said (before all this crap hit us) numerous times the USPS needed to renegotiate their delivery terms with Amazon.

[Jersey mike]

https://www.businessinsider.com/clark-county-nevada-las-vegas-mail-in-primary-ballots-undeliverable-2020-8

“A Nevada county mailed out 1.3 million ballots for its primary election but 1 in 5 were never delivered“

“Following guidance from state authorities, the county mailed ballots to all of its 1.3 million registered voters in the Las Vegas area, but 223,000 were never delivered, according to a new report authored by the conservative nonprofit Public Interest Legal Foundation and confirmed by the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Although the report attributed the undeliverable ballots to outdated voter rolls, the problem alludes to ones other counties could face if they pursue mail-only voting in the November presidential election.“

"These numbers show how vote by mail fails. New proponents of mail balloting don't often understand how it actually works," Public Interest Legal Foundation President J. Christian Adams said in a statement. "States like Oregon and Washington spent many years building their mail voting systems and are notably aggressive with voter list maintenance efforts. Pride in their own systems does not somehow transfer across state lines. Nevada, New York, and others are not and will not be ready for November."

“Oregon and Washington have held elections entirely by mail for years, but the June primary was Nevada's first election conducted fully through the mail because of concerns around the coronavirus pandemic. However, 93,585 voters listed as 'active' never had the chance to vote, as the USPS returned their ballots to the election commission saying they were undeliverable, the report shows. “

[Patrick]

Closing of Post Offices ? 2 have been closed locally recently. One just around the corner [ about 1 mile away].

[..]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8634193/Squad-member-Ayanna-Pressley-sparks-anger-calling-unrest-streets-USPS.html

[Robert]

System is not ready for full on mail in voting, either for legitimacy of vote nor for the volume of mail. Especially when there is no reason at all people cannot go out and vote.

[scooperhsd]

Yeah, "King" Murphy wants to do NJ "mailin ballots" - I'd like to know HOW is he defining "mail in ballots" first. If he wants everyone to request an absentee ballot, then send it in - that's one thing - but if he wants to mail a ballot to every (possibly dead / not living in NJ anymore) registered voter - that's quite a different thing.

[..]

Of course it's OK for protestors to gather outside the head Post guys home en masse but not to line up to vote in person.

Hypocrites again. 

[Rams]

Of course it's OK for protestors to gather outside the head Post guys home en masse but not to line up to vote in person.

Hypocrites again. 

Excellent point!

Rams

[Robert]

The USPS Just Filed A Patent For A Blockchain-Based Secure-Voting System
It looks like the United States Post Office is getting in the business of voting.

It has recently been unearthed that he USPS filed for a patent on February 7, 2020 for a "Secure Voting System" that uses a blockchain access layer. Obviously, this could be one of the strongest signals of a welcome adaptation to blockchain by the U.S. government since blockchain was thrust on the map by Bitcoin.

"A voting system can use the security of blockchain and the mail to provide a reliable voting system," the patent application says. "A registered voter receives a computer readable code in the mail and confirms identity and confirms correct ballot information in an election. The system separates voter identification and votes to ensure vote anonymity, and stores votes on a distributed ledger in a blockchain."

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=20200258338.PGNR.&OS=&RS=

"Voters generally wish to be able to vote for elected officials or on other issues in a manner that is convenient and secure," the application says. "Further, those holding elections wish to be able to ensure that election results have not been tampered with and that the results actually correspond to the votes that were cast. In some embodiments, a blockchain allows the tracking of the various types of necessary data in a way that is secure and allows others to easily confirm that data has not been altered."


Problem solved, Dems heads explode.

[Patrick]

The USPS Just Filed A Patent For A Blockchain-Based Secure-Voting System
It looks like the United States Post Office is getting in the business of voting.

It has recently been unearthed that he USPS filed for a patent on February 7, 2020 for a "Secure Voting System" that uses a blockchain access layer. Obviously, this could be one of the strongest signals of a welcome adaptation to blockchain by the U.S. government since blockchain was thrust on the map by Bitcoin.

"A voting system can use the security of blockchain and the mail to provide a reliable voting system," the patent application says. "A registered voter receives a computer readable code in the mail and confirms identity and confirms correct ballot information in an election. The system separates voter identification and votes to ensure vote anonymity, and stores votes on a distributed ledger in a blockchain."

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=20200258338.PGNR.&OS=&RS=

"Voters generally wish to be able to vote for elected officials or on other issues in a manner that is convenient and secure," the application says. "Further, those holding elections wish to be able to ensure that election results have not been tampered with and that the results actually correspond to the votes that were cast. In some embodiments, a blockchain allows the tracking of the various types of necessary data in a way that is secure and allows others to easily confirm that data has not been altered."


Problem solved, Dems heads explode.

I can't see that happening in time, we're talking government.

[scooperhsd]

US PTO (patent and Trademark Office) might be able to approve it in time - but implementing for an election in November ? Sorry Charlie, that's going to be a  BIG job. Maybe for the next national election.

[Moonshot_1]

I guess I'm a bit confused on this issue. Voting is a State endeavor. The only Federal election is done by the Electoral College. Everything else is State or local. Even electing the State's Presidential electors is a State Function.

The confusion...If a State wants to engage in a mail in ballot option (not absentee, but a new mass mail in ballot option) shouldn't the said State be obligated to fund the Postal Service's effort? It's the State's election program not the Federal government's.

[f6gal]

And this is the reason Trump is trying to hobble the Postal System ?

I ask this in all sincerity, it's not a gotcha question.  What has Trump being doing to hobble the USPS?  

If you're talking about funding, that's the job of Congress.  As far as I know, Congress has not passed a bill with increased funding for USPS.

Connie, it's not just the funding. Although he did admit that he didn't want them to get it in order to stop mail voting. The hobbling started some time back and continues. In a time that we are in with Covid, the Postal System plays a vital role in our society. The Trump administration thru its appointed Board and Postmaster General have intentionally curtailed overtime and created rules that slow down the system. In my book that defined as hobbling. As far as Congress not passing a bill, the Senate leader has thrown up his hands and delegated all negotiations to the Trump admin. It's in their court.

The USPS has been operating in the red for ages.  I believe the PMG was put in place to attempt to get that under control.  IMO, the operating model for the USPS is absurd and was doomed to fail.  It is a quasi government agency that is expected to be self-sustaining through revenue, but, they aren't allowed to show a profit.  So, in the good years, any excess revenue was spent frivolously to avoid budget cuts.  It's a ridiculous business model.  

The senate can't delegate negotiations to the executive branch, that's not the way it works.  The House and the Senate need to stay in session until they can come to an agreement.  I believe the sticking points are items that are completely irrelevant to CoronaVirus.  Since the point of the bill it to address issues related to CV, there should be NO other pork thrown into the bill.  

Looks like Nancy might have heard me.  She called the House back into session.

[The emperor has no clothes]

And this is the reason Trump is trying to hobble the Postal System ?

I ask this in all sincerity, it's not a gotcha question.  What has Trump being doing to hobble the USPS?  

If you're talking about funding, that's the job of Congress.  As far as I know, Congress has not passed a bill with increased funding for USPS.

Connie, it's not just the funding. Although he did admit that he didn't want them to get it in order to stop mail voting. The hobbling started some time back and continues. In a time that we are in with Covid, the Postal System plays a vital role in our society. The Trump administration thru its appointed Board and Postmaster General have intentionally curtailed overtime and created rules that slow down the system. In my book that defined as hobbling. As far as Congress not passing a bill, the Senate leader has thrown up his hands and delegated all negotiations to the Trump admin. It's in their court.

The USPS has been operating in the red for ages.  I believe the PMG was put in place to attempt to get that under control.  IMO, the operating model for the USPS is absurd and was doomed to fail.  It is a quasi government agency that is expected to be self-sustaining through revenue, but, they aren't allowed to show a profit.  So, in the good years, any excess revenue was spent frivolously to avoid budget cuts.  It's a ridiculous business model.  

The senate can't delegate negotiations to the executive branch, that's not the way it works.  The House and the Senate need to stay in session until they can come to an agreement.  I believe the sticking points are items that are completely irrelevant to CoronaVirus.  Since the point of the bill it to address issues related to CV, there should be NO other pork thrown into the bill.  

Looks like Nancy might have heard me.  She called them back into session.

Can you whisper in Mitch's ear ?

[Jersey mike]

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/crowds-protest-danger-of-in-person-voting

“People who think it's dangerous to gather in crowds to vote gather in large crowds to protest outside postmaster general's homes”


“ The head of the federal government's coronavirus task force, Dr. Anthony Fauci, says that it's safe for in-person voting to occur this November. Many of the same people who have droned on extensively about the need to trust experts apparently disagree and have been pushing for mass mail-in voting this fall.”

“ Fueled by this belief and some conspiracy theorizing by elected Democrats, a number of apparently angry Americans took to the streets in protest this weekend — specifically, the streets outside of properties owned by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy. According to the conspiracy theory being floated by Nancy Pelosi, you see, DeJoy is acting at the behest of President Donald Trump to "sabotage" the postal system so that it cannot be counted on to allow the entire country to participate in mail-in voting, which seems to be their goal.“

“The irony of their cause seemed entirely lost on the protesters. They showed no shame at the prospect of gathering in large crowds in order to ... protest that it was not safe for people to gather in what would doubtlessly be much smaller (and more easily managed) crowds in order to vote. In fact, videos and pictures of the event showed thousands of people pressed together with little or no regard for social distancing. Even mask-wearing — which is NOT an acceptable substitute for social distancing — was inconsistent.”

“ Of course, the truth is that voting in person during a pandemic is safe, and we don't have to guess or even take the word of Dr. Fauci for it. Recall that in April, at the height of COVID panic, Wisconsin held an in-person election, to the consternation of Democrats who confidently stated that Republicans were trying to kill people by making them vote in person. However, the end result was absolutely no spike in coronavirus cases from Wisconsin's election, to the surprise of many "experts."

Video clip is included for your viewing pleasure.

[..]

A little something for the few who can't ...................................................


https://www.uspsoig.gov/document/mail-collection-box-%E2%80%94-management-service-status

[Patrick]

The mass postal ballots are said to have to your political affiliation next to your address which has been the cause for so many 'missing' ballots. [ I heard this from a postal employee]


ex;  1234 d [or r]  Main St

[Serk]

The mass postal ballots are said to have to your political affiliation next to your address which has been the cause for so many 'missing' ballots. [ I heard this from a postal employee]


ex;  1234 d [or r]  Main St

I saw that and was concerned so I did a little research - this was only done for mail in ballots during primary elections, not during the general election....

Also, it's all over now, the leftists can put away their torches and pitchforks:

Postmaster general says he's pausing changes 'until after the election'

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/512533-postmaster-general-says-hes-pausing-changes-until-after-the-election

[baldo]

The mass postal ballots are said to have to your political affiliation next to your address which has been the cause for so many 'missing' ballots. [ I heard this from a postal employee]


ex;  1234 d [or r]  Main St

I saw that and was concerned so I did a little research - this was only done for mail in ballots during primary elections, not during the general election....

Also, it's all over now, the leftists can put away their torches and pitchforks:

Postmaster general says he's pausing changes 'until after the election'

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/512533-postmaster-general-says-hes-pausing-changes-until-after-the-election

When does he start reinstalling the removed sorting machines and street boxes? Or did they achieve their goal to get them off-line until they got caught?

Why isn't EVERYONE screaming angry over what they're trying to do? The balls of him to snuggle with veterans' prescriptions, SS checks (for those that still get hard checks), and countless other essentials that only the USPS provides....For people of ALL political stripes? WTF

[Serk]

The mass postal ballots are said to have to your political affiliation next to your address which has been the cause for so many 'missing' ballots. [ I heard this from a postal employee]


ex;  1234 d [or r]  Main St

I saw that and was concerned so I did a little research - this was only done for mail in ballots during primary elections, not during the general election....

Also, it's all over now, the leftists can put away their torches and pitchforks:

Postmaster general says he's pausing changes 'until after the election'

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/512533-postmaster-general-says-hes-pausing-changes-until-after-the-election

When does he start reinstalling the removed sorting machines and street boxes? Or did they achieve their goal to get them off-line until they got caught?

Why isn't EVERYONE screaming angry over what they're trying to do? The balls of him to snuggle with veterans' prescriptions, SS checks (for those that still get hard checks), and countless other essentials that only the USPS provides....For people of ALL political stripes? WTF

We really need to come up with a catchy name for these tin foil hat wearing types who believe the post office conspiracy theory..... It's more out there than the birthers ever were...

Oh well, at least the memes are dank...

[baldo]

We really need to come up with a catchy name for these tin foil hat wearing types who believe the post office conspiracy theory..... It's more out there than the birthers ever were...

Oh well, at least the memes are dank...

So weak. Definitely not up to your usual par.

[Patrick]

It seems that the feds stopped Social Security checks about 7 or 8 years ago going with only direct deposit.

The USPS has been moving/rearranging outside boxes for years/decades.

[Jersey mike]

The mass postal ballots are said to have to your political affiliation next to your address which has been the cause for so many 'missing' ballots. [ I heard this from a postal employee]


ex;  1234 d [or r]  Main St

I saw that and was concerned so I did a little research - this was only done for mail in ballots during primary elections, not during the general election....

Also, it's all over now, the leftists can put away their torches and pitchforks:

Postmaster general says he's pausing changes 'until after the election'

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/512533-postmaster-general-says-hes-pausing-changes-until-after-the-election

When does he start reinstalling the removed sorting machines and street boxes? Or did they achieve their goal to get them off-line until they got caught?

Why isn't EVERYONE screaming angry over what they're trying to do? The balls of him to snuggle with veterans' prescriptions, SS checks (for those that still get hard checks), and countless other essentials that only the USPS provides....For people of ALL political stripes? WTF

I posted this link a couple days ago and if you would have read it there would be no cause for concern regarding mailboxes.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/obama-usps-conspiracy-theory-biden-trump

“ USPS spokesman Steve Doherty told Boston.com that many mailboxes are being repaired or replaced with newer ones. "These trucks are on the street daily," Doherty said. "They're part of our field maintenance fleet."

"This is why you may see one box on a corner that previously may have had two or three side by side," Doherty continued. "With declining letter volumes, we try to keep the system efficient."

"In short – this is all routine maintenance," Doherty concluded. "There's no effort underway to reduce collection boxes."

In fact, between 2011 and 2016, there were roughly 14,000 USPS mailboxes removed, which was during the Obama-Biden administration.

A 2009 Washington Post article stated, "In the past 20 years, 200,000 mailboxes have vanished from city streets, rural routes and suburban neighborhoods – more than the 175,000 that remain."

"The U.S. Postal Service says it removes 'underperforming' mailboxes – those that collect fewer than 25 pieces of mail a day – after a week-long 'density test,'" the report read, echoing what Frum said last week.”

“Because of the hysteria over the relocated mailboxes, the USPS said they would not remove any boxes until after the election.“

When I was a kid (around ‘79 or so) my bus stop had a mail box, one day we came home from school and it was gone. I guess it was Trumps fault.

[Rams]

The left has convinced itself that the USPS Post Master is doing all these things to keep Biden/Harris out of the White House.   No amount of proof otherwise, factual or not will convince them it's normal maintenance or logically moving assets as use prescribes.   The only thing they care about it not getting Biden/Harris in office but, removing President Trump.

I have to wonder how much (behind the scenes) the Clintons are involved.   

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