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"Huge Caravan" Of Central Americans Is Headed For The U.S. Border In Hopes Of Asylum https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-31/huge-caravan-central-americans-headed-us-border-hopes-asylumhttp://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018/03/30/caravan-1500-central-american-migrant-familes-crossing-mexico-reach-u-s-border/Over 1,500 Central Americans are on a crusade across Mexico in the hopes of being granted asylum at the U.S. border - a move which is set to pose an enormous challenge to the Trump administration's much campaigned about immigration policies, while reminding Trump's base that they still don't have the wall they elected him to build 14 months into his presidency. "We want to become one, supporting us shoulder to shoulder and show that together we can break down borders," say the caravan's organizers. The Central American migrants, mostly Hondurans and Guatemalans, flee their countries because of insecurity and because they are threatened by gang members, also because of the economic and political situation in the region. A couple of more links for the credulous, even aljazeera knows about it shame many US citizens are not informed, but nothing from the media. Center for Immigration Studies https://cis.org/Luna/Caravan-Central-American-Illegal-Aliens-Heads-UShttps://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/12/central-american-mothers-search-missing-sons-161207081134641.html |
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2018, 03:56:08 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2018, 04:30:21 PM » |
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A dimension beyond sight and sound..........
The signpost up ahead............
The UNDOCUMENTED zone
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2018, 04:49:31 PM » |
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How did they get into Mexico. I thought their borders were blocked.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2018, 05:11:14 PM » |
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Just gonna have to do what Poland and Hungary have done all along...."NO EFFIN' Way Jose"..!! Eastern European Countries who have steadfastly refused migrants are the only ones who have not had migrant problems. If you think LA County's tent cities are bad now....  Give the rest of Kalifornia enough time...there is a tent city with all it's filth and excrement in your near future. Just what the Democrats Want...never ending chains of unemployable welfare recipients that vote...Democrat!!! |
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2018, 05:51:02 PM » |
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I've been there...people everywhere just want to be happy and raise their kids...follow the money.."The money masters".com
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2018, 06:31:48 PM » |
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no worries. They're Jerry's kids going to california to replace all of the californians that are leaving the state.
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2018, 07:41:05 PM » |
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Looks like about 500 future "MS13" members to me.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2018, 07:58:09 PM » |
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2018, 04:57:05 AM » |
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I am curious as to how the more Liberal members of this forum would suggest addressing this issue?
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2018, 05:05:51 AM » |
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no way America survives as a first world country if this continues. were closer than you think to going third world now. Ive watched my state be radically changed in 40 years eventually yours will be too no matter where you live in America. You might think they wont come to a cold weather climate think again they will go everywhere they can get the free hand outs. And they always get the free game show prizes.
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2018, 05:09:20 AM » |
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I am curious as to how the more Liberal members of this forum would suggest addressing this issue?
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I know nothing about this "caravan" other than what has been written here. I will say anything coming from Breibart and zerohedge is pretty suspect. It does seem pretty foolish for someone wanting to illegally cross into our country to advertise themselves in such a way. I would think the Border Patrol will have little problem apprehending them. |
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2018, 06:12:01 AM » |
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It does seem pretty foolish for someone wanting to illegally cross into our country to advertise themselves in such a way. I would think the Border Patrol will have little problem apprehending them. I look at that another way, 1500 people just keep on marching right through the check points at the border. What is the border patrol going to do? SHOOT THEM? I doubt it, that would create a horrendous nightmare for the administration. If they make it to the border, I am betting that the liberals will be lined up to assist them across with language interpreters standing by. Someone has to explain to them how to join the free crap army. Jim |
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2018, 07:57:44 AM » |
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I think they should have buses at the border waiting to take them to San Francisco for sanctuary. We'll call them Nancy's kids.
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2018, 10:17:37 AM » |
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I think they should have buses at the border waiting to take them to San Francisco for sanctuary. We'll call them Nancy's kids.
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I think they should have buses at the border waiting to take them to San Francisco for sanctuary. We'll call them Nancy's kids.
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2018, 08:05:09 PM » |
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Time for Congress to do something and perhaps time to put the military on our Southern border until they do.
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2018, 08:07:20 PM » |
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maybe we should just put Congress on the border
For each "immigrant" that gets thru we give Mexico one congressman or senator
Then ICE takes em all back to Mexico
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2018, 03:58:05 AM » |
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Time for Congress to do something and perhaps time to put the military on our Southern border until they do.
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Got a question...when the h%ll are voters in Ontario(the mentally disabled majority) gonna quit voting liberal. There are a lot of people here in the West who would like to see the Juvenile Drama Teacher marched out of parliament with a rainbow colored silk noose around his neck!! |
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Got a question...when the h%ll are voters in Ontario(the mentally disabled majority) gonna quit voting liberal. There are a lot of people here in the West who would like to see the Juvenile Drama Teacher marched out of parliament with a rainbow colored silk noose around his neck!! Well, as soon as we are granted separation from the IDIOTS in southern Ontario, we will be fine! I am not sure how any sane person could vote for the current lieberal party in ontario? Wynne has crippled this province and is now on a drunken sailor give away spree to buy the votes for the next election  THese people are IDIOTS!!!!!!!!! |
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I believe that Mexico is no friend of the U.S. and is working with the Left to bring our country down to level of Mexico and the rest of central America.
Why else would they continue "sending" us everyone they don't want to take care of or be responsible for? Why doesn't their own army take care of the drug cartels, coyotes, and mass kidnapping going on there? Why do they continually allow people to walk on through their southern border and provide them with the means to make it all the way up to their northern border. Mexico feeds them and takes care of them until they reach the top. Then they wash their hands and say it's the U.S.'s problem now.
I think Mexico should be forced to take this and all future "caravans" until they stop this.
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Got a question...when the h%ll are voters in Ontario(the mentally disabled majority) gonna quit voting liberal. There are a lot of people here in the West who would like to see the Juvenile Drama Teacher marched out of parliament with a rainbow colored silk noose around his neck!! Well, as soon as we are granted separation from the IDIOTS in southern Ontario, we will be fine! I am not sure how any sane person could vote for the current lieberal party in ontario? Wynne has crippled this province and is now on a drunken sailor give away spree to buy the votes for the next election THese people are IDIOTS!!!!!!!!! Dr. Jordan Peterson called Wynn the most dangerous person in Canada...I would place our Fairy Princess Prime Minister a close second. Way Back when the Liberal party had the chance to name a smart articulate former astronaut as Liberal Leader...they chose a Space Cadet instead...so here we are...god help us. |
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« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2018, 06:27:40 AM » |
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send 10 - 15 black hawks down to the border. When the caravan rolls up to the border have the border patrol tell them to turn back because they are not welcome, if they decide to continue north let them get 5 or so miles in and use heat seeking missiles to destroy them. That should send a message to the next group that tries to enter illegally.
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« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2018, 06:52:22 AM » |
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That's funny, I looked at the rules for just visiting Canada the other day and it looked to me like they have all kinds of rules that prevent people from even visiting there as a tourist. |
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send 10 - 15 black hawks down to the border. When the caravan rolls up to the border have the border patrol tell them to turn back because they are not welcome, if they decide to continue north let them get 5 or so miles in and use heat seeking missiles to destroy them. That should send a message to the next group that tries to enter illegally.
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That's funny, I looked at the rules for just visiting Canada the other day and it looked to me like they have all kinds of rules that prevent people from even visiting there as a tourist. Those Rules are for "Visitors"...the border crashers and unvetted muslim "migrants" are given the red carpet treatment by the current Fairy Princess Administration. |
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I doubt that Mexico wants to take down the US they just want all the freebies they can get. Just like the Amero and NAFTA any time Mexico can get a foot hold in the US then it will mean a better economy for them. This is not lost on the corrupt government officials in Mexico either they know how much they will benefit so using a few poor souls is the least of it.
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That's funny, I looked at the rules for just visiting Canada the other day and it looked to me like they have all kinds of rules that prevent people from even visiting there as a tourist. Those Rules are for "Visitors"...the border crashers and unvetted muslim "migrants" are given the red carpet treatment by the current Fairy Princess Administration. I don't know anything about Canadian Politics but it does seem to me that the powers that be DON'T want Americans coming there. |
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That's funny, I looked at the rules for just visiting Canada the other day and it looked to me like they have all kinds of rules that prevent people from even visiting there as a tourist. Those Rules are for "Visitors"...the border crashers and unvetted muslim "migrants" are given the red carpet treatment by the current Fairy Princess Administration. I don't know anything about Canadian Politics but it does seem to me that the powers that be DON'T want Americans coming there. You have guessed correctly...as Albertans right here in Lefty Kanada we are treated much the same because we "mostly" have the same values as the "flyover" Americans, and that just does not sit right with these progressive pinheads. There are a lot of people here who are happy being your next door neighbors. I personally avoid having much to do with "progressives"...they leave a foul odor in the air long after they leave the room. |
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That's funny, I looked at the rules for just visiting Canada the other day and it looked to me like they have all kinds of rules that prevent people from even visiting there as a tourist. Those Rules are for "Visitors"...the border crashers and unvetted muslim "migrants" are given the red carpet treatment by the current Fairy Princess Administration. I don't know anything about Canadian Politics but it does seem to me that the powers that be DON'T want Americans coming there. You have guessed correctly...as Albertans right here in Lefty Kanada we are treated much the same because we "mostly" have the same values as the "flyover" Americans, and that just does not sit right with these progressive pinheads. There are a lot of people here who are happy being your next door neighbors. I personally avoid having much to do with "progressives"...they leave a foul odor in the air long after they leave the room. I always wonder why that smells like curry and Jamaican beef patties...... |
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Seems to me the best way to handle these folks who come here without documentation is to send them to the Undocumented Immigrant Processing and Detention center that we would build on Adak Island in the Aleutian Island area. They should be told if coming to the US be legal or bring a coat. Maybe 4 or 5 of them.
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I believe that Mexico is no friend of the U.S. and is working with the Left to bring our country down to level of Mexico and the rest of central America.
Why else would they continue "sending" us everyone they don't want to take care of or be responsible for? Why doesn't their own army take care of the drug cartels, coyotes, and mass kidnapping going on there? Why do they continually allow people to walk on through their southern border and provide them with the means to make it all the way up to their northern border. Mexico feeds them and takes care of them until they reach the top. Then they wash their hands and say it's the U.S.'s problem now.
I think Mexico should be forced to take this and all future "caravans" until they stop this.
It's the money. One of the largest sources of income is the US-specifically Mexican nationals sending back wages earned in the US. I remember an article years back about how Western Union would have gone under years ago if it wasn't for money orders from the US to Mexico. There's no way Mexico will voluntarily do anything to reduce the "trade deficit" regarding money from the north. If I were the President of Mexico, I'd do the same. But I'm an American, so, no thanks. Set the Claymores and plenty of warning signs. |
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We're gonna take every last one of them, you'll see.
Can you imagine the optics of the national guard or border patrol wearing uniforms and gear, sunglasses and helmets, holding those horrible black rifles in the arms facing off against those poor, downtrodden, hungry innocent people just trying to escape the violence and give their children a better life?
Elian Gonzalez ring a bell? Only this time it's a whole caravan worse.
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I hope they do use the military.
But everyone must be turned back, taken back, thrown back.
No taking refugee, asylum, but I have relatives, or any other statements or applications, no camps, no housing, no food, no benefit applications. (Water might be OK)
About face. Forward march.
If someone has a valid US passport and all is in order, by all means let them pass.
As John Wayne famously said..... Out here mister, due process is a bullet. (but we shouldn't have to shoot anyone, unless they insist)
And start slapping liens or freezes on any Mexican property/assets/money or offsets on any debt or aid to Mexico for all the costs of us having to do what they aren't doing.
And build the GD wall.
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