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Ferguson Grand Jury

Started by old2soon, Mon 24, Nov 2014, 14:41:25

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Patrick

Not to worry. holder is on it. Don't worry, his investigation will be 'more better' just as everything he does is. He'll have to work fast though, which he doesn't seem to do very well.
If he indicts Wilson, then I'm confident the resulting trial will result in the same verdict. Then we get to watch more protests and more business's lost.

Bighead

Baldo go look at the officers record pretty much clean,then go look at the Thugs wrap sheet and tell me who should have shot who?
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musclehead

Quote from: hubcapsc on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 09:42:04
Quote from: baldo on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 08:25:47
I'm speaking to the overall tone. When MB and protesters are referred to as monkeys, I don't think there's much guessing.

I searched the whole thread. The word "monkey" popped up once, not in referral to
the perp or the protesters, but rather to these folks...



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                                   IMHO here is the bottom line to all of this. IF Mike Brown had not stolen from the store, had he
                              not assaulted the owner, had he not assaulted a police officer in his vehicle, NONE of this would
                              ever have happened. All of it is squarely on his shoulders.

MP

#124
Quote from: baldo on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 13:24:20
His body was 153 from the car, scene of the initial contact. Wilson fired two volleys of five shots each, as he chased him down the street. The final shot that killed him was to the TOP of his head, indicating he was either on the ground or on his way down.


Right here you prove that you did not read, or hear, ANY of the physical evidence presented.  You are parroting what the initial, WRONG, LYING, witnesses said.  That he was shot in the back.

To be firing "as he chased him down the street", Brown would have been shot in the back.  The problem is, all three medical examiners, INCLUDING BROWNS FAMILY EXAMINER, agree the bullets went in from the front. The shell casings were also found in two groups, also matching Wilsons story.  If he had been firing "as he chased him", they would have been all spread out.

So, you are completely disregarding the physical evidence in a racist attempt to make a man guilty, when he is not.

MP

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Oss

I wonder if the ADM was to check the ISP would we find
one of our OLD members behind this post with a new handle ?

Sounds kind of familiar to me.

To the new poster, dont judge the members until you have met them either at an Inzane or
any of the many ride events,

Its easy to be brave and abrasive behind the keyboard

Its also easy to be a friend and reach out a hand to help others

Your call....
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#126
Baldo had a right to his opinion, I don't agree with it but, it's his to have and own.

This I know, showing aggression to any LEO is asking for trouble.  

I do not support a police state in any manner or means but, based on all of the reported evidence (not hearsay), it's hard for me to find (former) Officer Wilson at fault.   If the events took place as reported, then I have to say I would have done the same thing, black, white, Hispanic or green.
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old2soon

Brown made MANY bad/wrong/terrible choices that day. I stated in an earlier post that had he COMPLIED with the L E Os instructions he might/probably/most likely STILL be alive and ALL of the B S that followed would have been avoided. It started with Brown CHOOSING to rob the handi mart. It progressed straight down hill from the robbery. Bad choices and again-choosing to ignore the L E Os lawful commands put himself in the ground. Whoever the little sumbitch that was with Brown and lied from the git go needs to be tried for at the very least hindering the investigation. But some folks would STILL be pissed off even IF they had a video PROVING beyond ALL doubt that Brown acted exactly like Wilson said he did. I hope and PRAY the G J members names NEVER are made public. RIDE SAFE.
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Patrick

Quote from: old2soon on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 16:37:29
Brown made MANY bad/wrong/terrible choices that day. I stated in an earlier post that had he COMPLIED with the L E Os instructions he might/probably/most likely STILL be alive and ALL of the B S that followed would have been avoided. It started with Brown CHOOSING to rob the handi mart. It progressed straight down hill from the robbery. Bad choices and again-choosing to ignore the L E Os lawful commands put himself in the ground. Whoever the little sumbitch that was with Brown and lied from the git go needs to be tried for at the very least hindering the investigation. But some folks would STILL be pissed off even IF they had a video PROVING beyond ALL doubt that Brown acted exactly like Wilson said he did. I hope and PRAY the G J members names NEVER are made public. RIDE SAFE.






There were enough witness statements that were exactly as Wilson said.  Thats not good enough for some.
Stuff like this makes me think that John Wilkes Booth was the greatest traitor this country ever had.

BF

Quote from: Oss on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 15:27:35
I wonder if the ADM was to check the ISP would we find
one of our OLD members behind this post with a new handle ?

Sounds kind of familiar to me.

To the new poster, dont judge the members until you have met them either at an Inzane or
any of the many ride events,

Its easy to be brave and abrasive behind the keyboard

Its also easy to be a friend and reach out a hand to help others

Your call....

I had the same impression.   :cooldude:
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I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



old2soon

Last nights or this mornings news had an interesting aside that might help shed a little more light on Ferguson. I believe the figure was 90% of the rioters/mob inciters that were arrested were from out of state-NOT Missouri residents. Some from as far away as N Y and CA.  :uglystupid2: So NOT really a home grown protest. Splains why some of the local business's were destroyed. RIDE SAFE.
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Jess from VA

90% of the rioters/mob inciters that were arrested were from out of state

You wouldn't think that many people could get time off from work at the same time.

R J

Quote from: Jess from VA on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 18:34:06
90% of the rioters/mob inciters that were arrested were from out of state

You wouldn't think that many people could get time off from work at the same time.

Who said they worked?

At the last election we just had, the Dem's were off to a hell of a lead, then the rest of the them got off work.

Nuff said. :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude:
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Skinhead

Quote from: BF on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 16:58:04
Quote from: Oss on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 15:27:35
I wonder if the ADM was to check the ISP would we find
one of our OLD members behind this post with a new handle ?

Sounds kind of familiar to me.

To the new poster, dont judge the members until you have met them either at an Inzane or
any of the many ride events,

Its easy to be brave and abrasive behind the keyboard

Its also easy to be a friend and reach out a hand to help others

Your call....

I had the same impression.   :cooldude:


Baldo...... ?   Daddio........ ?   HMMMMMMMMMMMM!  The similarities are uncanny....

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Willow

Quote from: Oss on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 15:27:35
I wonder if the ADM was to check the ISP would we find
one of our OLD members behind this post with a new handle ?

Not really likely.  The IP address from which he is posting is a single place in a heavily Democratic state on the east coast.

MP

Quote from: Willow on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 21:12:28
Quote from: Oss on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 15:27:35
I wonder if the ADM was to check the ISP would we find
one of our OLD members behind this post with a new handle ?

Not really likely.  The IP address from which he is posting is a single place in a heavily Democratic state on the east coast.

Obama is on here now?

MP

"Ridin' with Cycho"

Willow

Quote from: MP on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 21:16:28
Quote from: Willow on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 21:12:28
Quote from: Oss on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 15:27:35
I wonder if the ADM was to check the ISP would we find
one of our OLD members behind this post with a new handle ?

Not really likely.  The IP address from which he is posting is a single place in a heavily Democratic state on the east coast.

Obama is on here now?

MP

No.  The President doesn't live in an east coast state.  He did go to school in one.   ;)

Jess from VA

Quote from: MP on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 21:16:28
Quote from: Willow on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 21:12:28
Quote from: Oss on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 15:27:35
I wonder if the ADM was to check the ISP would we find
one of our OLD members behind this post with a new handle ?

Not really likely.  The IP address from which he is posting is a single place in a heavily Democratic state on the east coast.

Obama is on here now?

MP

Mel, I just spit my coke all over the place.  Cut it out.   :2funny:

MP

Quote from: Willow on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 21:22:01
Quote from: MP on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 21:16:28
Quote from: Willow on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 21:12:28
Quote from: Oss on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 15:27:35
I wonder if the ADM was to check the ISP would we find
one of our OLD members behind this post with a new handle ?

Not really likely.  The IP address from which he is posting is a single place in a heavily Democratic state on the east coast.

Obama is on here now?

MP

No.  The President doesn't live in an east coast state.  He did go to school in one.   ;)

Well..... he does live in a heavily Democratic State.................... of Mind!

MP

"Ridin' with Cycho"

BF

I thought maybe Anvil....but then again, not nearly as caustic as Anvil could be.   
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Reb

Kinda upset as a die hard St. Louis Rams fan to see the entire receiving core of the Rams come out of the tunnel with "hands up" gestures supporting Ferguson during the game today,  >:( >:( >:(
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MP

Quote from: Reb on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 21:48:08
Kinda upset as a die hard St. Louis Rams fan to see the entire receiving core of the Rams come out of the tunnel with "hands up" gestures supporting Ferguson during the game today,  >:( >:( >:(

Sickening, really.

No matter how much real, physical evidence is presented, thanks Serk, it will make ZERO difference in the debate.

A white cop shot a black man, therefore, he committed a racist murder.  The FACTS make NO DIFFERENCE.

I just love all the calls for more police training.  WHAT could have Wilson done different?  The only thing I can think of is that EVERY time a white cop sees a black man, the cop retreats, no matter what the reason.

And then, of course, the white cop will be accused of not preventing crime and murder amongst the blacks!  Because he, and all cops, are racist.

If the black community thinks this is somehow helping their cause, and building support for them and their cause, they are sadly mistaken. Personally, I am becoming more and more PO'd at them, and supporting them less and less.

Once they accuse Wilson of murdering Brown, and want him hung, in face of both the number of witnesses supporting Wilson, and the overwhelming physical evidence that supports them and Wilson, ANY point they attempt to make after that is wasted on me.

MP

"Ridin' with Cycho"

G-Man

Quote from: meathead on Tue 25, Nov 2014, 18:23:35
Quote from: G-Man on Tue 25, Nov 2014, 17:59:13
Quote from: bassin on Tue 25, Nov 2014, 17:47:46
Its funny if Michael Brown would have not resisted and complied with the officer NONE of this would have happened. If he was arrested he would have had his day in court. Enough said !

And Trayvon was a block away from home and chose to go back to see what the guy following him wanted.  All he had to do is go home.

These kids make really bad choices and society has to suffer the consequences along with them.

Sad.
If I was walking home and someone was following me I would have wanted to know what he wanted.

He told his girlfriend he wanted to see what the white expletive wanted.  We know now from evidence and witnesses that Trayvon didn't ask Zimmerman what he wanted out of mere curiosity.  He confronted a smaller person and preceded to beat the man who ultimately defended himself.  If you approached Zim in the same manner, then you'd suffer the same consequences.

I bet if Zim was 6'4" 260lb, Trayvon wouldn't have been so inquisitive.

G-Man

Quote from: BF on Wed 26, Nov 2014, 19:27:28
Forget Ferguson, 244 Teenagers Have Been Shot In Chicago Since Michael Brown Died

But the weren't honor students.   :D

Dark

I also don't understand how a LEO performing his duties & a finding of no probable cause for any charges against him does not represent justice.

A criminal who assaults a LEO performing his duties & attempting to enforce laws he swore to uphold ends up dead. No injustice there in my opinion.

A LEO forced to resign in fear of safety for other LEO's after being cleared of any wrong doing while performing his job sure seems like an injustice to me.

African Americans are 13% of the US population. It sure seems like as a nation we cater to them and they have more of a sense of entitlement than a sense of commitment to making this a better country.  As a nation, it is not healthy when the citizens have a sense of entitlement rather than a sense of duty.
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G-Man

#146
Quote from: baldo on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 12:58:59
Because my thoughts aren't the same as yours, and they're not coming out of thin air, I'm to be discounted?


No, you should be discounted because you first attack us all by saying that we would like the honor student shot again (and then back pedal and soften it when called on it).  Then you choose to ignore certain pieces of evidence that lead to a man fearing for his life.  You only mention minor injuries but you neglect how he got those minor injuries.  You neglected, just like AL SHARPTON (yes, I put you in the same class),  


G-Man

Quote from: musclehead on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 14:22:20
Quote from: hubcapsc on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 09:42:04
Quote from: baldo on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 08:25:47
I'm speaking to the overall tone. When MB and protesters are referred to as monkeys, I don't think there's much guessing.

I searched the whole thread. The word "monkey" popped up once, not in referral to
the perp or the protesters, but rather to these folks...



-Mike

all it takes is once for some folks to paint with broad strokes.

That's what the race baiters count on.

old2soon

O K-I have NOT looked this up so I'm counting on our resident L E Os and Barristers here. Isn't the job of the Grand Jury to determine after reviewing ALL the evidence whether there is ENOUGH evidence to warrant bringing the person charged to trial? And if that person does not have sufficient evidence against them chose not to indict thus saving the taxpayers a chunk of change? After everything I was able to read-trying very hard to NOT go off half cocked-in my heart and my mind I believe the young man from Ferguson did what the L E O said he did. And just before the G J released their findings didn't the feds say there WAS NOT enough evidence for the feds to indict the L E O? Oh and as yet another aside-young people in St. Louis beat I believe a Serbian man to death with hammers. We shall see how this one plays out. RIDE SAFE.
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Patrick


specialdose

   
                         Judge Napolitano was just on Cavuto on FOX. Dude is pretty smart. He said he thought it was a big mistake
                   for Wilson to be talking to folks, especially on TV. He thinks Holder can get a federal indictment. It is above my pay
                   grade. I hope not. Time will tell. If I were Wilson I would adhere to this old adage " out of site out of mind "

Hooter

Quote from: MP on Mon 01, Dec 2014, 05:30:40
Quote from: Reb on Sun 30, Nov 2014, 21:48:08
Kinda upset as a die hard St. Louis Rams fan to see the entire receiving core of the Rams come out of the tunnel with "hands up" gestures supporting Ferguson during the game today,  >:( >:( >:(

Sickening, really.

No matter how much real, physical evidence is presented, thanks Serk, it will make ZERO difference in the debate.

A white cop shot a black man, therefore, he committed a racist murder.  The FACTS make NO DIFFERENCE.

I just love all the calls for more police training.  WHAT could have Wilson done different?  The only thing I can think of is that EVERY time a white cop sees a black man, the cop retreats, no matter what the reason.

And then, of course, the white cop will be accused of not preventing crime and murder amongst the blacks!  Because he, and all cops, are racist.

If the black community thinks this is somehow helping their cause, and building support for them and their cause, they are sadly mistaken. Personally, I am becoming more and more PO'd at them, and supporting them less and less.

Once they accuse Wilson of murdering Brown, and want him hung, in face of both the number of witnesses supporting Wilson, and the overwhelming physical evidence that supports them and Wilson, ANY point they attempt to make after that is wasted on me.

MP

Flame suit on....

   You said it without saying it! Reverse this entire situation and we wouldn't  even have heard about this! The truth is the truth, just some are afraid to say what some of us are thinking. I'm not a raciest by any shake and have some really good black friends. QUOTE: IF a black cop would have shot a white kid, this wouldn't even be an issue? No, local news only. This statement came from the mouth of one of my black buddies. He hates Jackson and Sharpton and claims they live for this kinda crap and are the reason for racism around the black communities. Nuff said.
You are never lost if you don't care where you are!

Patrick

Blacks have shot white cops lately, and, no to very little mention of it.

The way this admin has handled these last 2 big cases, race relations has been set back decades.
sharpton now being obamas right hand man tells it all.


old2soon

It has already gone down and can not be changed. BUT what I can't help wonder about-what IF there had been NO outside influences on the local Ferguson folks? Would the riots and rampages have been THAT intense? People not vested in the community would be more apt to burn-homes-business's-vehicles etc. And-YES I KNOW we will NEVER know now because outside influences were there making cursed sure it got ugly and worst of all-STAYED ugly. Some of the posted links lead to ideas of gubmint conspiracies that-in my mind anyhow-sound on the surface-plausible. An ex dark ops operator called Ferguson a "distraction" to keep minds occupied while other more nefarious schemes were afoot. There MIGHT still be lingering questions about Sandy Hook to. No matter how you slice it-EVIL is running rampant in the U S of A. Course we all know the kool aide drinkers will believe what ever they are TOLD to believe. RIDE SAFE.
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bigguy

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Serk

Quote from: bigguy on Tue 02, Dec 2014, 11:30:01


This is highly offensive to wolves..... Wolves at least are honorable in so much as you know where you stand with them, they don't pretend to be something they're not.
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A caring, concerned President would not consort with scum like Sharpton, Jackson and Wright.

Having Sharpton as a "race" advisor and Wright as a "spiritual" advisor speaks volumes about the morals and standards of the liar in chief.

The deafening sound of silence from the Lib/Dem/Prog media and voters speaks volumes about their morals and standards.

Patrick

Quote from: Serk on Tue 02, Dec 2014, 11:48:04
Quote from: bigguy on Tue 02, Dec 2014, 11:30:01


This is highly offensive to wolves..... Wolves at least are honorable in so much as you know where you stand with them, they don't pretend to be something they're not.









:cooldude:

Patrick

Quote from: Britman on Tue 02, Dec 2014, 12:31:47
A caring, concerned President would not consort with scum like Sharpton, Jackson and Wright.

Having Sharpton as a "race" advisor and Wright as a "spiritual" advisor speaks volumes about the morals and standards of the liar in chief.

The deafening sound of silence from the Lib/Dem/Prog media and voters speaks volumes about their morals and standards.






Could I add bill ayers to the list ?

I'm kind surprised ward churchill isn't an 'advisor'.