America Would Be 'Less Violent, More Normal' Without The South

[Bighead]

DaveMN - seems you were one of the ones happy as Hell about getting rid of the Confederate flag.
How do you like the fact that your own state flag may now have to fall?
Seems it has a pic of a white guy working with an Indian in the background holding a spear.

My flag doesn't stand for racism, slavery, bigotry, KKK and treason.

The Battle flag didn't either. Go read some more.
And seems the libs think the MN flag does.

[signart]

FYI Bighead.

One murder per 11,800 in Chicago.

One murder per 4,800 in Jackson.

I like the better odds of Chicago myself.   No, I dont live there.

Not that it could have anything to do with anything:
Jackson MS black population: 86%
Chicago IL black population:  32%
Would that mean if you are black, your chances are still better in Jackson?

[Romeo]

Ok children. I believe it's time for a dance Off!

[Pappy!]

DaveMN - seems you were one of the ones happy as Hell about getting rid of the Confederate flag.
How do you like the fact that your own state flag may now have to fall?
Seems it has a pic of a white guy working with an Indian in the background holding a spear.

My flag doesn't stand for racism, slavery, bigotry, KKK and treason.

The Battle flag didn't either. Go read some more.
And seems the libs think the MN flag does.

Karma..................................

[Xtracho]

DaveMN - seems you were one of the ones happy as Hell about getting rid of the Confederate flag.
How do you like the fact that your own state flag may now have to fall?
Seems it has a pic of a white guy working with an Indian in the background holding a spear.

My flag doesn't stand for racism, slavery, bigotry, KKK and treason.

The Battle flag didn't either. Go read some more.
And seems the libs think the MN flag does.

Karma..................................

It's a bitch ain't it?

As far as the statistical citations used to bolster an argument I offer the following from George Canning, British Statesman and former Prime Minister:

"I can prove anything by statistics, except the truth."

[G-Man]

        Worked with a Chicago transplant here in Atlanta for 20 yrs. He said the weirdest thing for him was people holding the door for you
wheather they be man or woman. You will always get yes ma'am no ma'am, yes sir no sir from my children and grandchildren and from me
and I am 68. We might be short a lot of things in the south ( though some one would have to name them for me ) but manners is not one of them. What we need is to stop all the PC crap, realize we are all different . Again, a bit of politeness will go a long way to tamping down trouble. Jm 0.02  

Here in NYC, the heart of Yankeedom, manners are are just as important to some as it is to others.  You couldn't find more well mannered folks than my entire family and all our friends.  

This whole flag thing now has us attacking each other.  The progressives win again.  Yeaaaaaah!

They didn't let this crisis go to waste.  They turned a multiple murder committed by a a$$hole into a north vs south thing.  They've demonized the south, which is mainly red states, and called them racists.  The south, pushed up against the wall retaliates by calling the north some names, and none of this was the issue in the first place.

 

[The emperor has no clothes]

        Worked with a Chicago transplant here in Atlanta for 20 yrs. He said the weirdest thing for him was people holding the door for you
wheather they be man or woman. You will always get yes ma'am no ma'am, yes sir no sir from my children and grandchildren and from me
and I am 68. We might be short a lot of things in the south ( though some one would have to name them for me ) but manners is not one of them. What we need is to stop all the PC crap, realize we are all different . Again, a bit of politeness will go a long way to tamping down trouble. Jm 0.02 

Here in NYC, the heart of Yankeedom, manners are are just as important to some as it is to others.  You couldn't find more well mannered folks than my entire family and all our friends. 

This whole flag thing now has us attacking each other.  The progressives win again.  Yeaaaaaah!

The didn't let this crisis go to waste.  They turned a multiple murder committed by a a$$hole into a north vs south thing.  They've demonized the south, which is mainly red states, and called them racists.  The south, pushed up against the wall retaliates by calling the north some names, and none of this was the issue in the first place.

 

Thats not exactly true. The flag issue has been contentious for decades.

[Momz]

"Southern Republicans are at the forefront of efforts to roll back the voting rights revolution by making voter registration more difficult"  

[RDAbull]

"Southern Republicans are at the forefront of efforts to roll back the voting rights revolution by making voter registration more difficult"  

If you mean by stopping illegal aliens from voting and people from voting multiple times, then I am all for it too.  I guess that would make this Hoosier/Buckeye Northerner a Southern racist also by your definition.
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[G-Man]

        Worked with a Chicago transplant here in Atlanta for 20 yrs. He said the weirdest thing for him was people holding the door for you
wheather they be man or woman. You will always get yes ma'am no ma'am, yes sir no sir from my children and grandchildren and from me
and I am 68. We might be short a lot of things in the south ( though some one would have to name them for me ) but manners is not one of them. What we need is to stop all the PC crap, realize we are all different . Again, a bit of politeness will go a long way to tamping down trouble. Jm 0.02 

Here in NYC, the heart of Yankeedom, manners are are just as important to some as it is to others.  You couldn't find more well mannered folks than my entire family and all our friends. 

This whole flag thing now has us attacking each other.  The progressives win again.  Yeaaaaaah!

The didn't let this crisis go to waste.  They turned a multiple murder committed by a a$$hole into a north vs south thing.  They've demonized the south, which is mainly red states, and called them racists.  The south, pushed up against the wall retaliates by calling the north some names, and none of this was the issue in the first place.

 

Thats not exactly true. The flag issue has been contentious for decades.

OK, so where are the threads about the murderer?  All I see is thread after thread about the flag, and the south, being attacked. 

The flag may have been a minor issue, but if the murderer wasn't holding that flag we'd wouldn't even be discussing it.  That flag is has been present on this board in one form or another for as long as I've been here (so probably longer) and we've never argued about what it meant, until now. 

So, it is exactly true.   

I'm not adding anything further to this discussion or any other discussion about abolishing all remnants to this country's southern history.

I have a great time when I talk to or hang out with folks from all over this country, all because of this club.  They have never made me or my wife feel uncomfortable because of who we are or where we live.  I hate hearing and reading about MY FRIENDS being labelled and categorized.  I'm FED UP with this already.  In the last 7 years, the left/liberal/progressive machine has labelled everyone I know and love a racist, sexist, classist, or whatever the IST is that week.  So sick of it.

Enjoy the bull$hit.  Not me, no more.

[RDAbull]

Really?

So the 2,000 murders in Chicago last year isn't violence?

Hypocritical idiots.

Wrong. Chicago had about 500 murders in 2012. 457 last year. You have exaggerated by a factor of 4.
New Orleans and Jackson Mississippi had far more murders per capita than Chicago.
Just the facts!

236 thus far this year in Chicago and 37 in Jackson Ms. Wow #'s off a bit?  Yes I know what per capita means but would rather take my chances where the 37 have happened.

Sorry Bighead, you would be wrong to assume that. Your chances of dieing are higher in Jackson or NEw Orleans. That's statistically more likely in those 2 cities. Per Capita.....that's what it means.

Statistics don't matter much when you are getting shot at!  In the Liberal Bastions of the Northern, East Coast and West Coast cities I am not allowed to carry anything with which to protect myself.

OK, maybe a cell phone and a rock.  Not much protection for5 the criminal element.

At least in the rest of the country I can shoot back, and yes, I am very good with a gun.

[FLAVALK]

Arguing with a liberal is like wrestling a pig in the mud. You know the rest 

[Momz]

"Southern Republicans are at the forefront of efforts to roll back the voting rights revolution by making voter registration more difficult"  

Property owners only

[Patrick]

"Southern Republicans are at the forefront of efforts to roll back the voting rights revolution by making voter registration more difficult"  

They are making registration more difficult ?  
Hmm, I thought they just wanted them to register and were making that as easy as possible, even offering free rides.
Or, is that quote from some dumbass liberal organization.

[Patrick]

"Southern Republicans are at the forefront of efforts to roll back the voting rights revolution by making voter registration more difficult"  

Property owners only

Oh, proper owners only. 
Well, there is a point to that. At one time in order to vote one had to be free, white, Protestant, 21, male, and own land.

[FLAVALK]

"Southern Republicans are at the forefront of efforts to roll back the voting rights revolution by making voter registration more difficult"  

WOW....just wow

[Patrick]

Really?

So the 2,000 murders in Chicago last year isn't violence?

Hypocritical idiots.

Wrong. Chicago had about 500 murders in 2012. 457 last year. You have exaggerated by a factor of 4.
New Orleans and Jackson Mississippi had far more murders per capita than Chicago.
Just the facts!

236 thus far this year in Chicago and 37 in Jackson Ms. Wow #'s off a bit?  Yes I know what per capita means but would rather take my chances where the 37 have happened.

Sorry Bighead, you would be wrong to assume that. Your chances of dieing are higher in Jackson or NEw Orleans. That's statistically more likely in those 2 cities. Per Capita.....that's what it means.

Statistics don't matter much when you are getting shot at!  In the Liberal Bastions of the Northern, East Coast and West Coast cities I am not allowed to carry anything with which to protect myself.

OK, maybe a cell phone and a rock.  Not much protection for5 the criminal element.

At least in the rest of the country I can shoot back, and yes, I am very good with a gun.

I'm in one of those northern liberal bastions and can carry a handgun. I don't know if that allows me to shoot back or not though, maybe not. Haven't had to find that out yet. But, I did have to jump through some hoops to get that license [ including downstate] way back when and those hoops were pretty big and not very high off the ground. In other words, it was pretty easy.
I don't have a problem with handgun licensing as long as the background checks would make some sense, which in many cases don't. As conservative as I am I guess I'm liberal enough to not have a problem with trying to keep handguns out of the hands of some nitwit.

[RDAbull]

"Southern Republicans are at the forefront of efforts to roll back the voting rights revolution by making voter registration more difficult"  

Property owners only

Oh, now I understand, you were talking about the Democrats from the South in the 1870s & 1880s
not todays Republicans..

You need to go read the new rules before you comment on them.

[Wizzard]

If I had to Title a thread in a way that I thought would piss off the most people, this one would rank right up there. Just sayin!

[GiG]

Keyboard Hero is very proud!

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

If I had to Title a thread in a way that I thought would piss off the most people, this one would rank right up there. Just sayin!

  Saw the same ( Title ) on Facebook days before it showed up here. Not sure if he is on Facebook or not but it looks like a copy/paste from there.

[czuch]

MOMMMM,,,, can I have some more pizza rolls?

[BF]

"Southern Republicans are at the forefront of efforts to roll back the voting rights revolution by making voter registration more difficult"  

Don't you just love it when folks start screaming at you on the internet?

[BF]

Keyboard Hero is very proud!

So you're a keyboard hero now too?  Go figure. 

[Oss]

damn

out of popcorn


if the south leaves does that mean no more popcorn   

[Momz]

"Southern Republicans are at the forefront of efforts to roll back the voting rights revolution by making voter registration more difficult"  

Property owners only

Straight out of the article,.....yep a copy and paste quote.

[RDAbull]

"Southern Republicans are at the forefront of efforts to roll back the voting rights revolution by making voter registration more difficult"  

Property owners only

Straight out of the article,.....yep a copy and paste quote.

Article--Maybe,  Truth, I think not.  I guess it just depends on what kind of Bullshit rag you read.

[Crackerborn]

I did not realize that WI was a southern state. The southern Republicans in this state just passed voter ID at the polls much to the liberal press and Democratic party's dismay. It may stop some of the local cemetery inhabitants from voting along party lines. 

[Serk]

I did not realize that WI was a southern state. The southern Republicans in this state just passed voter ID at the polls much to the liberal press and Democratic party's dismay. It may stop some of the local cemetery inhabitants from voting along party lines. 

[Wizzard]

"Southern Republicans are at the forefront of efforts to roll back the voting rights revolution by making voter registration more difficult"  

Property owners only

Straight out of the article,.....yep a copy and paste quote.

Article--Maybe,  Truth, I think not.  I guess it just depends on what kind of Bullshit rag you read.

For sure you can find an article to support whatever opinion you have. 

[Jess from VA]

America Would Be 'Less Violent, More Normal' Without so many criminals, illegals, and the Free crap Army (and the politicians who love and enable them). 

[Willow]

... At one time in order to vote one had to be free, white, Protestant, 21, male, and own land.

Patrick, could you find documentation for that because I'm pretty sure it's bullshit. 

For what it's worth, some of the founding fathers did want to limit the right to vote to those who owned land.  I think it would have been a step in the right direction.  Some of the biggest problems with democracy throughout history have been related to politicians courting the votes of those who are receiving more than from those who are contributing.

[The emperor has no clothes]

America would be more normal if everyone would start thinking more like me 

[Oss]

we could become like those countries that forbid certain types of
people FROM owning land, say people who ride motorcycles 

I can think of many who came to the colonies BECAUSE they could
 not even own land in their own country

Also can think of  many countries that you cant own land if not a citizen


If you are a citizen I have no problem with folks voting, if here illegally
I have a BIG problem

We need Ellis Island back, bigger and better than ever and EVERYONE who
comes in, from anywhere, goes thru there even if it takes months or years

[Patrick]

... At one time in order to vote one had to be free, white, Protestant, 21, male, and own land.

Patrick, could you find documentation for that because I'm pretty sure it's bullshit.  

For what it's worth, some of the founding fathers did want to limit the right to vote to those who owned land.  I think it would have been a step in the right direction.  Some of the biggest problems with democracy throughout history have been related to politicians courting the votes of those who are receiving more than from those who are contributing.

Once again.  
http://www.history.org/foundation/journal/spring07/elections.cfm





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_States

[DIGGER]

Wouldn't your northerner gas prices go up with out the south?????   Carefull not to hack us off down here in Texas........you may all be running on batteries.

[Hooter]

 This thread has turned into what I thought it was going to: People getting pissed off    at each other cause everyone is right. Not unlike a bunch of threads anymore  being civil to one another is slowly leaving. Pretty prevelent in this thread alone.

[Serk]

 This thread has turned into what I thought it was going to: People getting pissed off    at each other cause everyone is right. Not unlike a bunch of threads anymore  being civil to one another is slowly leaving. Pretty prevelent in this thread alone.

Just my humble opinion, but this happening on this forum is just a reflection of the phenomenon in society at large. Regrettable to be sure, there's no understanding occurring when people are talking at each other instead of to each other.

[Patrick]

 This thread has turned into what I thought it was going to: People getting pissed off    at each other cause everyone is right. Not unlike a bunch of threads anymore  being civil to one another is slowly leaving. Pretty prevelent in this thread alone.

Just my humble opinion, but this happening on this forum is just a reflection of the phenomenon in society at large. Regrettable to be sure, there's no understanding occurring when people are talking at each other instead of to each other.

Yep, just human nature isn't it.

[RDAbull]

 This thread has turned into what I thought it was going to: People getting pissed off    at each other cause everyone is right. Not unlike a bunch of threads anymore  being civil to one another is slowly leaving. Pretty prevelent in this thread alone.

Just my humble opinion, but this happening on this forum is just a reflection of the phenomenon in society at large. Regrettable to be sure, there's no understanding occurring when people are talking at each other instead of to each other.

Yep, just human nature isn't it.

Guilty as charged, so I'll take G-Man's lead and close out.
Ya'll have fun and play nice.