Widows and Orphans

[Patrick]

Our leader says republicans are now afraid of widows and orphans. Republican statements are also  recruitment tools for ISIS.

[Moonshot_1]

Our leader says republicans are now afraid of widows and orphans. Republican statements are also  recruitment tools for ISIS.

These would be the widows and orphans with suicide vests and Kalashnikovs? Let Barry host them at his house.

I'll be glad when his reign of terror is over.

[Patrick]

 I find it shocking that hillary says her enemy is the republican party[ as well the other stupid things she says]. Yet there are still so many that can't wait for the opportunity to vote for her. I'm afraid she will continue this 'reign of terror'.

[PAVALKER]

Big deal, our elected leader is afraid of windows and organs....you know, transparent windows so we can see what he is up to and doing and organs that you might find in a church.  

[..]

The foul liar in our White House takes every opportunity to show his disdain for the American public and our allies.

His lies show it clearly

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322649/The-enemy-Nearly-SEVENTY-arrested-America-ISIS-plots-include-refugees-given-safe-haven-turned-terror.html

[Serk]

On issues of religion I tend to be a little more to the left than many here, I try very hard to be the "Not all X are Y" guy, I really try...

But then something like this...

These are Turks, generally considered to be the more secular of Muslims (Correct me if I'm wrong here Jess) at a soccer game, they were asked to observe a moment of silence for the victims of the Paris attacks...

Their response was to boo and start chanting Allahu Akbar... (Which, seeing how universal that phrase is, (It just means "God is the greatest") I'm sure someone could argue they were shouting it as a lament or prayer for the dead, but combined with the boo'ing, I ain't buying it.)

And these are our Allies in the Muslim world... Hell, they're even a member of NATO!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3322708/Turkey-supporters-boo-minute-s-silence-victims-Paris-attacks-prior-team-s-friendly-against-Greece-Istanbul.html

[Valkorado]

On issues of religion I tend to be a little more to the left than many here, I try very hard to be the "Not all X are Y" guy, I really try...

But then something like this...

These are Turks, generally considered to be the more secular of Muslims (Correct me if I'm wrong here Jess) at a soccer game, they were asked to observe a moment of silence for the victims of the Paris attacks...

Their response was to boo and start chanting Allahu Akbar... (Which, seeing how universal that phrase is, (It just means "God is the greatest") I'm sure someone could argue they were shouting it as a lament or prayer for the dead, but combined with the boo'ing, I ain't buying it.)

And these are our Allies in the Muslim world... Hell, they're even a member of NATO!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3322708/Turkey-supporters-boo-minute-s-silence-victims-Paris-attacks-prior-team-s-friendly-against-Greece-Istanbul.html

I ain't, buying it either.  I'd take just about anything they say (other than they want to kill us all) with a whole shaker of salt.  I don't think we can be reminded of this enough.

http://muslimfact.com/bm/terror-in-the-name-of-islam/islam-permits-lying-to-deceive-unbelievers-and-bri.shtml

[Moonshot_1]

I've held the opinion for some time that the problem isn't radical Islam or the likes of Isis.

The problem is Islam.

ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the likes of them are just the militant arm of Islam.

The radical Islam folks are the ones who DO try to promote peace and nonviolence.  That is the radical position in an Islamic world.

The violent, militant, and terroristic Islam is mainstream Islam. The evidence for this is self evident.

We've seen hundreds of Islamic led attacks over the last couple decades. Dozens of major ones.

How many times have we seen an institutional condemnation of these attacks by the Islamic Leadership?

Not only can I can count the number of times that has happened on one hand I can do it even if they decide to chop off both my hands. In the name of peace of course.

Islam is only compatible with itself.

Until there is an institutional change in the attitude of Islam they need to be isolated and not tolerated.
They need to have a renaissance within their culture and then we can consider accepting them into a civilized society.

We better realize this soon.
We need to put down the militant arms of Islam and Isolate Islam untill the attitude changes and do it with prejudice and purpose.

[..]

The foul man says contained.

Paris
Russian jet
Beiruit bomb
Baghdad bomb

etc just in the past month.

He's disgusting as are those that support him and hang on his every spewing word.

[Bighead]

The rest of the stadium should have given them a what for 

[Jess from VA]

On issues of religion I tend to be a little more to the left than many here, I try very hard to be the "Not all X are Y" guy, I really try...

But then something like this...

These are Turks, generally considered to be the more secular of Muslims (Correct me if I'm wrong here Jess) at a soccer game, they were asked to observe a moment of silence for the victims of the Paris attacks...

Their response was to boo and start chanting Allahu Akbar... (Which, seeing how universal that phrase is, (It just means "God is the greatest") I'm sure someone could argue they were shouting it as a lament or prayer for the dead, but combined with the boo'ing, I ain't buying it.)

And these are our Allies in the Muslim world... Hell, they're even a member of NATO!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3322708/Turkey-supporters-boo-minute-s-silence-victims-Paris-attacks-prior-team-s-friendly-against-Greece-Istanbul.html

During my two tours in the mid- 80's, the Turks were very pro US.  The threats at the time were the Soviets/eastern block, and Beirut/Syria, and the Kurds (who want a homeland out of eastern Turkey and Western Iraq (still do).  The only terror threat in those days was the Kurds against the Turks, and the US stayed out of it.  

In all my time there, I was only called an infidel once, and that was more likely due to marrying a Turk beauty who was on my arm, not my supposed Christianity (9 out of 10 times I was taken for German, not American; they have a long time association with the Germans, and liked them too). I was last there in 1990.  I loved my time over there, people were exceeding friendly and generous and courteous to a fault.  Except they drive like maniacs.

25 years of war later, I think they don't like us as much as they used to.  We've killed them by accident a number of times, and innocents always suffer in war.  Like many places, I think the youth is more anti-US than older people who understand what a friend the US has been to Turkey for many decades.  And soccer games will be overly attended by youth, and soccer fans everywhere get all jacked up on boring soccer games.  Look, he kicked a ball.  And the US has since greatly interfered in their internal dealings with the Kurds (which is in OUR best interest, not theirs, and their dismay at this is completely understandable).

The Turkish G is more Islamic than ever before, and they have gone against the generals who traditionally stood for Turkish secularism and democracy against the G when necessary (two coups in 60 and 80).  

I had really hoped to spend some long visits over there in my retirement, but am no longer very close with my in-laws (though they all sided with me in the split up), and that will probably not happen.

Too bad.  They remain a very patriotic people...... like our country used to be.

[Spirited-6]

HOLEY crap, no one in control but the 

[Bighead]

Just saw on the news where 38 governors were opposed to taking Syrian refugees into their state,followed by a statement from top White House officials that they would hide the identity and not tell the state governments were they settled them. WTF is wrong with our so called leaders? Buch of freaking idiotic assholes that care more about 10,000 ( reported) probably more like 100,000 who we don't know a damn thing about,if they want to harm us or not. Than the American people!

[Patrick]

Just saw on the news where 38 governors were opposed to taking Syrian refugees into their state,followed by a statement from top White House officials that they would hide the identity and not tell the state governments were they settled them. WTF is wrong with our so called leaders? Buch of freaking idiotic assholes that care more about 10,000 ( reported) probably more like 100,000 who we don't know a damn thing about,if they want to harm us or not. Than the American people!

That'll just increase the number of sanctuary cities.

Maybe this is what's needed to finally bring this to a head. obama just appears to be getting more radical by the day.

[..]

Just saw on the news where 38 governors were opposed to taking Syrian refugees into their state,followed by a statement from top White House officials that they would hide the identity and not tell the state governments were they settled them. WTF is wrong with our so called leaders? Buch of freaking idiotic assholes that care more about 10,000 ( reported) probably more like 100,000 who we don't know a damn thing about,if they want to harm us or not. Than the American people!

That'll just increase the number of sanctuary cities.

Maybe this is what's needed to finally bring this to a head. obama just appears to be getting more radical by the day.

Should that be radicalized?

[MP]

I remember well the live shots from big cities, all over the world, on 9/11.

They were FILLED with 100,000's of Muslims, cheering the attacks in New York.

However, within a day, the news quit showing the celebrating Muslims.

I am sure all those 100,000's, if not millions, of Muslims, were not ALL radicals.

[Patrick]

I remember well the live shots from big cities, all over the world, on 9/11.

They were FILLED with 100,000's of Muslims, cheering the attacks in New York.

However, within a day, the news quit showing the celebrating Muslims.

I am sure all those 100,000's, if not millions, of Muslims, were not ALL radicals.

I got mixed up in the 9/11 thing. I live in upstate NY and that night the news channels were all showing the muslim college students in Buffalo out in the streets cheering.

[Bighead]

The ones cheering should have been deported on the spot.

[old2soon]

The ones cheering should have been deported on the spot.

ZACKLY what he said!  They ARE and continue to use our on laws against us!  RIDE SAFE.

[Patrick]

The ones cheering should have been deported on the spot.

I agree at the very least. It wouldn't have bothered me to have them shot and thrown into the river.

[JimmyG]

Once upon a time there was a king who wanted to go fishing.

He called the royal weather forecaster and inquired as to the weather forecast for the next few hours. The weatherman assured him that there was no chance of rain in the coming days.


So the king went fishing with his wife, the queen. On the way he met a farmer on his donkey. Upon seeing the king the farmer said, "Your Majesty, you should return to the palace at once because in just a short time I expect a huge amount of rain to fall in this area".



The king was polite and considerate, he replied: "I hold the palace meteorologist in high regard. He is an extensively educated and experienced professional.  And besides, I pay him very high wages. He gave me a very different forecast. I trust him and I will continue on my way."  So he continued on his way.



However, a short time later a torrential rain fell from the sky.  The King and Queen were totally soaked and their entourage chuckled upon seeing them in such a shameful condition.>



Furious, the king returned to the palace and gave the order to fire the professional. Then he summoned the farmer and offered him the prestigious and high paying role of royal forecaster.>



The farmer said, "Your Majesty, I do not know anything about forecasting.  I obtain my information from my donkey. If I see my donkey's ears drooping, it means with certainty that it
will rain."



So the king hired the donkey. And thus began the practice of hiring dumb asses to work in the government and occupy its highest and most influential positions.



And the practice is unbroken to this date...

[MP]

Widows and orphans?   What a load of c**p!

At least in Europe, 70% of the refugees are listed as single, male, 18-35 year olds!  Widows and orphans?  ANOTHER lie from the White House.

[Patrick]

Once upon a time there was a king who wanted to go fishing.

He called the royal weather forecaster and inquired as to the weather forecast for the next few hours. The weatherman assured him that there was no chance of rain in the coming days.


So the king went fishing with his wife, the queen. On the way he met a farmer on his donkey. Upon seeing the king the farmer said, "Your Majesty, you should return to the palace at once because in just a short time I expect a huge amount of rain to fall in this area".



The king was polite and considerate, he replied: "I hold the palace meteorologist in high regard. He is an extensively educated and experienced professional.  And besides, I pay him very high wages. He gave me a very different forecast. I trust him and I will continue on my way."  So he continued on his way.



However, a short time later a torrential rain fell from the sky.  The King and Queen were totally soaked and their entourage chuckled upon seeing them in such a shameful condition.>



Furious, the king returned to the palace and gave the order to fire the professional. Then he summoned the farmer and offered him the prestigious and high paying role of royal forecaster.>



The farmer said, "Your Majesty, I do not know anything about forecasting.  I obtain my information from my donkey. If I see my donkey's ears drooping, it means with certainty that it
will rain."



So the king hired the donkey. And thus began the practice of hiring dumb asses to work in the government and occupy its highest and most influential positions.



And the practice is unbroken to this date...

Interesting story. It sure doesn't make sense to me though. So, the dumb asses in the government are always right ?

Well, come to think about it, many think I'm a dumb ass, but, I'm always right.   

[michaelyoung254]

The ones cheering should have been deported on the spot.

I agree at the very least. It wouldn't have bothered me to have them shot and thrown into the river.

I'm sorry, but I just can agree with that, and I have a real problem with that type of thinking. I mean, why on earth would you want to pollute a perfectly good river?


Mike

[Serk]

Widows and orphans indeed... Good thing we have well defined and defended borders too!

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/18/americas/honduras-syrians-detained/index.html

[Alpha Dog]

OK.  Call the guys bluff.  They are voting on a bill tomorrow or next day which the dufas in charge said he would veto.   Change the bill to widows and orphans only.  By the way.  The person that lured in some French police or soldiers this am in that 5000 round shoot out and then set of a body bomb was a woman.
Chuck

[Patrick]

The ones cheering should have been deported on the spot.

I agree at the very least. It wouldn't have bothered me to have them shot and thrown into the river.

I'm sorry, but I just can agree with that, and I have a real problem with that type of thinking. I mean, why on earth would you want to pollute a perfectly good river?


Mike

I thought they would just float down the river and over the falls, they wouldn't even need a barrel.

[Master Blaster]

None of Obamas actions should surprise anyone.  After all he has been degrading states rights ever since he has been in office.  How many times did he have Eric Holder sue the individual states when they bucked what he wanted????   He doesn't believe in a Democratic republic.  His ideal and the only government that he believes in, is a Dictatorship.

[3fan4life]

The ones cheering should have been deported Killed on the spot.

There I fixed it for you.

[Serk]

...more widows and orphan I'm sure...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/report-8-syrians-caught-at-texas-border-in-laredo/

[Bighead]

The ones cheering should have been deported Killed on the spot.

There I fixed it for you.

If you will notice my post was edited and that was my original post but decided to change it so the sensitive didn't get their panties in a wad, but don't know why I give a chit if they do

[Willow]

It's fair.  He has as much respect for the opposition as they have for him.

Some of us aren't watching closely enough.  The President of the United States is a Muslim sympathizer at best.  At worst he is a closet Muslim.  Our real problem isn't with the President.  His term ends in a year or so but the voters that brought him to that position will continue to vote well into the future.

[WilliamRS]

...more widows and orphan I'm sure...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/report-8-syrians-caught-at-texas-border-in-laredo/

two families (2 men, 2 women and 4 children) turned themselves in at the official Larado border crossing. 

[Serk]

...more widows and orphan I'm sure...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/report-8-syrians-caught-at-texas-border-in-laredo/

two families (2 men, 2 women and 4 children) turned themselves in at the official Larado border crossing. 

So then... neither widows nor orphans...

[Patrick]

Isn't it curious how the 2 families that ended up in Laredo got there.

[WilliamRS]

...more widows and orphan I'm sure...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/report-8-syrians-caught-at-texas-border-in-laredo/

two families (2 men, 2 women and 4 children) turned themselves in at the official Larado border crossing. 

So then... neither widows nor orphans...

nope, just 8 of the 4 million syrians that have been displaced by war.  can't imagine what they have gone thru to make it from syria to the texas border.  

[Valkorado]

Trey Gowdy nailed it saying Republicans aren't worried about widows and orphans, they are worried about policy that creates more widows and orphans.

[Moonshot_1]

...more widows and orphan I'm sure...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/report-8-syrians-caught-at-texas-border-in-laredo/

two families (2 men, 2 women and 4 children) turned themselves in at the official Larado border crossing.  

So then... neither widows nor orphans...

nope, just 8 of the 4 million syrians that have been displaced by war.  can't imagine what they have gone thru to make it from syria to the texas border.  

How can you be sure these 8 are here because they are displaced by war and not here to make it?

And we know terrorists from Syria are amongst them. France found out the hard way.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Isn't it curious how the 2 families that ended up in Laredo got there.

Just a shot in the dark. AIRPLANE ?

[Patrick]

Isn't it curious how the 2 families that ended up in Laredo got there.

Just a shot in the dark. AIRPLANE ?

OH, OK. Didn't realize that. They just flew right into the Laredo airport and turned themselves in. Glad I know that now.