InZane 17....

[baldo]

We should call this the Inzane 2017 Serkle.

I am very happy that regardless of where in the Serkle, it will give me an excuse to ride the Lolo Pass, a famous motorcycling road in this part of the world.

LOL....

[Redline +]

I am very happy that regardless of where in the Serkle, it will give me an excuse to ride the Lolo Pass, a famous motorcycling road in this part of the world.

With the new sign, it's even more fun now!

Redline

[f6gal]

I can't wait to ride Lolo Pass!  

Don't we have a date for that? 

[Gryphon Rider]

With the new sign, it's even more fun now!

Redline

Usually they work hard on straightening roads, not making them twistier!

I'm glad you have that photo; I couldn't find one with a Valkyrie in it.

[ksmith50229]

Lolo  pass takes you over to hells canyon :cooldude:and that's a great ride they say it's deeper than the grand Canyon? 

[jdp]

Thank you, let's go west, make a ride out of this, somewhere in the Rockies, anywhere west of Denver please.

[Disco]

I can't wait to ride Lolo Pass!  

Don't we have a date for that?  

Absolutely! The fantastic four were as close as Missoula last year on our way to Spearfish, but we were running a day behind schedule. Man, knowing we could hit Lolo to Lewiston, ID and head south to Joseph, OR, knocking out three more states made that a really difficult easterly turn!

[f6gal]

I can't wait to ride Lolo Pass!  

Don't we have a date for that?  

Absolutely! The fantastic four were as close as Missoula last year on our way to Spearfish, but we were running a day behind schedule. Man, knowing we could hit Lolo to Lewiston, WA and head south to Joseph, OR, knocking out three more states made that a really difficult easterly turn!

Coincidentally, those are the only 3 states Psycho needs to complete his lower 48.

[Disco]

I can't wait to ride Lolo Pass!  

Don't we have a date for that? 

Absolutely! The fantastic four were as close as Missoula last year on our way to Spearfish, but we were running a day behind schedule. Man, knowing we could hit Lolo to Lewiston, WA and head south to Joseph, OR, knocking out three more states made that a really difficult easterly turn!

Coincidentally, those are the only 3 states Psycho needs to complete his lower 48.

Please tell me you're not trying to set me up on a date with your Psycho. I've dated enough psychos.   

[Serk]

We should call this the Inzane 2017 Serkle.

I LOL'ed... Literally...

Quite an honor, and hope I'm able to finally break my non-attendance streak and enjoy riding in the Serkle next year!

[f6gal]

I can't wait to ride Lolo Pass!  

Don't we have a date for that? 

Absolutely! The fantastic four were as close as Missoula last year on our way to Spearfish, but we were running a day behind schedule. Man, knowing we could hit Lolo to Lewiston, WA and head south to Joseph, OR, knocking out three more states made that a really difficult easterly turn!

Coincidentally, those are the only 3 states Psycho needs to complete his lower 48.

Please tell me you're not trying to set me up on a date with your Psycho. I've dated enough psychos.   

LOL... I wouldn't do that to you. 

Hey, FYI, if you go home through Utah and AZ, you'll complete your lower 48.

[Redline +]

I'm glad you have that photo; I couldn't find one with a Valkyrie in it.

Here's another shot, lighting was not good, Westbound in the afternoon. This was my Valk pre hard bags.

Redline

[DirtyDan]

I'm glad you have that photo; I couldn't find one with a Valkyrie in it.

Here's another shot, lighting was not good, Westbound in the afternoon. This was my Valk pre hard bags.

Redline

Nice picture, where is it taken ?

Dan

[Oss]

My shot of lolo was in the pouring rain but yeah
that is one L O N G ass nice road for sure

Hope to get that way again somewhere down the line and hit those eastern Oregon roads as well

[Redline +]

I'm glad you have that photo; I couldn't find one with a Valkyrie in it.

Here's another shot, lighting was not good, Westbound in the afternoon. This was my Valk pre hard bags.

Redline

Nice picture, where is it taken ?

Dan

This is Highway 12, Lolo Pass, between Lewiston Idaho and Lolo Montana which is near Missoula.

Redline

[jdp]

Who's in charge of saying where's it's going to be? Because if they do choose out west somewhere lets get this thing rolling, man please.

[f6gal]

Who's in charge of saying where's it's going to be? Because if they do choose out west somewhere lets get this thing rolling, man please.

The VRCC staff decides.  It is not as easy as just pick a spot; there a lot of variables  If you read the rest of this thread, you can see we're working feverishly to secure the location.  You will also see that we are concentrating our efforts within a 350 mile radius (the Serkle) of Yellowstone N.P...

[Disco]

I can't wait to ride Lolo Pass!  

Don't we have a date for that? 

Absolutely! The fantastic four were as close as Missoula last year on our way to Spearfish, but we were running a day behind schedule. Man, knowing we could hit Lolo to Lewiston, ID and head south to Joseph, OR, knocking out three more states made that a really difficult easterly turn!

Coincidentally, those are the only 3 states Psycho needs to complete his lower 48.

Please tell me you're not trying to set me up on a date with your Psycho. I've dated enough psychos.   

LOL... I wouldn't do that to you. 

Hey, FYI, if you go home through Utah and AZ, you'll complete your lower 48.

I know, but to keep it completely Kosher, I need to at least nick the corners of AZ & CA.  The first time I rode there, it was on a borrowed Valkyrie and I'd like to complete the lower 48 on the same bike.

BTW, I just zoomed in on the road from Clarkston, WA (next door to Lewiston, ID) south to the Oregon border.  It's another 129 and looks to live up to its number!  Gotta ride it!  That will make 4 along with TN/NC Dragon area, Brazoria County BBQ area, and CO/WY border area.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Who's in charge of saying where's it's going to be? Because if they do choose out west somewhere lets get this thing rolling, man please.

The VRCC staff decides.  It is not as easy as just pick a spot; there a lot of variables  If you read the rest of this thread, you can see we're working feverishly to secure the location.  You will also see that we are concentrating our efforts within a 350 mile radius (the Serkle) of Yellowstone N.P...

Is that the same as the Serkle of Life from the Lion King ?

[rainman]

Very cool!

https://www.freemaptools.com/how-far-can-i-travel.htm

Bitch!  Bitch! Bitch!  .  We could be in Maine next year.  

sounds better than out west.  better roads to maine than going across the flats with nothing to see

[f6gal]

sounds better than out west.  better roads to maine than going across the flats with nothing to see

How do you think members in the West would get to Maine?  

If it's in the West, those in the East must traverse the "flats."  If it's in the East, those in West must endure them.  
We're trying to be a bit fair once in awhile.

(BTW, Willow was being facetious, IZ17 won't be in Maine)  

[fudgie]

Very cool!

https://www.freemaptools.com/how-far-can-i-travel.htm

Bitch!  Bitch! Bitch!  .  We could be in Maine next year.  

sounds better than out west.  better roads to maine than going across the flats with nothing to see

Follow me out west. No flats and everything to see. 

[BigBF]

Sound good and I will finally take my wife out to Yellowstone it's awesome... 

I'm concern about how many will attendance???
We will see what happen? I do know most popular out east where lot of Valkyries is...
In 2007 and 2009 in Frisco CO. I was surprise to see many from east side show up so anyplaces is possible.

[wiggydotcom]

            I hope to still be alive for InZane next year.

Well, then...Don't do anything to piss off the Clintons and you'll stand a better chance of reaching that goal, Carl.     

[f6gal]

Sound good and I will finally take my wife out to Yellowstone it's awesome...  

I'm concern about how many will attendance???
We will see what happen? I do know most popular out east where lot of Valkyries is...
In 2007 and 2009 in Frisco CO. I was surprise to see many from east side show up so anyplaces is possible.

InZanes in the West have had great attendance.  
The first Colorado had record attendance.  
Spearfish attendance was about the same as Asheville.  

I don't know why people have the impression that Valks are scarce in the West.

[Serk]

I don't know why people have the impression that Valks are scarce in the West.

They're used to going 2 states over for dinner, so everything being so spread out in the west really throws their perception off...

[BigBF]

Sound good and I will finally take my wife out to Yellowstone it's awesome...  

I'm concern about how many will attendance???
We will see what happen? I do know most popular out east where lot of Valkyries is...
In 2007 and 2009 in Frisco CO. I was surprise to see many from east side show up so anyplaces is possible.

InZanes in the West have had great attendance.  
The first Colorado had record attendance.  
Spearfish attendance was about the same as Asheville.  

I don't know why people have the impression that Valks are scarce in the West.

Yup like I said I was surprise to see many coming to Colorado.
Later I was concern about Inzane way up in Michigan was less cuz I don't make much money at that place twice.

Yellowstone would be awesome. Hope you guys pick near Yellowstone 

[f6gal]

Sound good and I will finally take my wife out to Yellowstone it's awesome...  

I'm concern about how many will attendance???
We will see what happen? I do know most popular out east where lot of Valkyries is...
In 2007 and 2009 in Frisco CO. I was surprise to see many from east side show up so anyplaces is possible.

InZanes in the West have had great attendance.  
The first Colorado had record attendance.  
Spearfish attendance was about the same as Asheville.  

I don't know why people have the impression that Valks are scarce in the West.

Yup like I said I was surprise to see many coming to Colorado.
Later I was concern about Inzane way up in Michigan was less cuz I don't make much money at that place twice.

Yellowstone would be awesome. Hope you guys pick near Yellowstone  

The Serkle (area diagramed) is 350 mile driving distances from Yellowstone.  
Yellowstone hotels are too expensive, but we expect to be within this 350 mile Serkle.

[Rams]

Sound good and I will finally take my wife out to Yellowstone it's awesome...  

I'm concern about how many will attendance???
We will see what happen? I do know most popular out east where lot of Valkyries is...
In 2007 and 2009 in Frisco CO. I was surprise to see many from east side show up so anyplaces is possible.

InZanes in the West have had great attendance.  
The first Colorado had record attendance.  
Spearfish attendance was about the same as Asheville.  

I don't know why people have the impression that Valks are scarce in the West.

I'd bet there were a lot more active members during the first 5 to 6 years also.   The Fat Ladies were newer, more on the road, the riders were younger and more able to ride long distances.    A lot of those folks no longer ride Valkyries or, simply no longer ride.  

I'd also wager (a very small amount, I'm cheap) that the center of the Valkyrie Universe is no where near the West Coast.   

Just my opinion.  NOT BITCHING about it.   I'm going to do everything I can to make IZ17 but. until I have a location and know the travel time and probable cost, I can not commit.

[f6gal]

I'd bet there were a lot more active members during the first 5 to 6 years also.   The Fat Ladies were newer, more on the road, the riders were younger and more able to ride long distances.    A lot of those folks no longer ride Valkyries or, simply no longer ride.  

I'd also wager (a very small amount, I'm cheap) that the center of the Valkyrie Universe is no where near the West Coast.  

Just my opinion.  NOT BITCHING about it.   I'm going to do everything I can to make IZ17 but. until I have a location and know the travel time and probable cost, I can not commit.

The first 5 were held in the East, in 2006 we went to Colorado for the 6th and broke all previous records for attendance.  Despite heading East again, Colorado held the attendance record until 2010.  That year, (first) Michigan beat out Colorado by 3 attendees.  Since then, we have not broken 400... although WV came very close.  Our worst year (attendance-wise) was 2005 in Kentucky, that was the only time we did not break 300.  Attendance drops drastically if we repeat a location.  

I have no clue as to the location of "the center of the Valkyrie universe."  But it would probably be hot and humid, and would get really boring after a couple of times there.  People want to see new places (evidenced by attendance drop at repeat locations).  It doesn't matter where it is, some people aren't going to like it.  We can't help that.

Last year, based on complaints from the previous year, I decided to post dates as soon as we knew them and locations that we were considering (rather than waiting until everything was set).  Last year, you said you appreciated that; this year it appears that's not good enough.  This is by far the earliest we have ever announced the dates and general area.  I kind feel like we're cursed if we do, cursed if we don't.

If you make plans based on Yellowstone for now, you will be in the ballpark; with only minor refinements needed once we know the exact location.  

[msb]

Sound good and I will finally take my wife out to Yellowstone it's awesome...  

I'm concern about how many will attendance???
We will see what happen? I do know most popular out east where lot of Valkyries is...
In 2007 and 2009 in Frisco CO. I was surprise to see many from east side show up so anyplaces is possible.

InZanes in the West have had great attendance.  
The first Colorado had record attendance.  
Spearfish attendance was about the same as Asheville.  

I don't know why people have the impression that Valks are scarce in the West.

I'd bet there were a lot more active members during the first 5 to 6 years also.   The Fat Ladies were newer, more on the road, the riders were younger and more able to ride long distances.    A lot of those folks no longer ride Valkyries or, simply no longer ride.  

I'd also wager (a very small amount, I'm cheap) that the center of the Valkyrie Universe is no where near the West Coast.   

Just my opinion.  NOT BITCHING about it.   I'm going to do everything I can to make IZ17 but. until I have a location and know the travel time and probable cost, I can not commit.

lol....the Serkle is not exactly on the West "Coast", however I would agree with your other comments although I bet there's still a lot of current Valkyrie riders who have never been to an Inzane - it took me 13 years to make my first two last year and this year. I think you'll see a pretty good contingent of members from the Western States and a large percentage of Western Canadian Valks (OK, so it'll be a large percentage of a small number from Canada) at IZ 2017. One thing for sure, the riding and other attractions within the Serkle are spectacular, so those who can and do make the trek from out East certainly will not be disappointed. I know that all of the days I spent riding in a straight flat line to get to and from Morgantown was well worth the effort in order for me to see and ride in your gorgeous State of KY and in WV, and all of the other great sights along the way

[ridingron]

My thought on the flatland riding is the same as most guys. I would install an aux. tank. When I got to the flat lands, I'd hit the Interstate, run up to a comfortable speed (75), hit the throttle lock/cruise control and go. The I'state is the best way to cover ground and the view isn't that much different than the 2 lane country road.

[Crazyhorse]

I have been blessed to attend all but 3 Inzanes. I think the Staff is awesome to put in the time it takes to bring about these rallies. I do a small ride (Crazyhorse Veterans Day Ride) each year and it takes time to plan it. Nothing compared to what is required of the VRCC Staff. Thanks guys and hope to see you at Inzane next year.

[Misfit]

I have been blessed to attend all but 3 Inzanes. I think the Staff is awesome to put in the time it takes to bring about these rallies. I do a small ride (Crazyhorse Veterans Day Ride) each year and it takes time to plan it. Nothing compared to what is required of the VRCC Staff. Thanks guys and hope to see you at Inzane next year.

Thank you Mr. McCain. It's comments like yours that make things worthwhile. There are some folks that need to go back and review there general board post history and compare positive post's to negative ones. I think some would have to dig pretty deep to find a positive post, about anything. Thank you to all that have made it a point to put InZane, the volunteers of this great club, and the VRCC staff in a positive light. Sometimes it really is a thankless job no matter how hard we try. I look forward to sharing Inzane 17 with you. 

[Woton]

Probably stating the obvious here, but indulge me...

It's WAY to early for feelings to get hurt about Inzane XVII.  We already have a good handle on next year's date, and I for one was very surprised to see even a hint of a possible location for the gathering barely a month after the last one concluded.  Our VRCC staff deserve all the credit for this.

No doubt some of us Easterners are going to be disappointed at next years Inzane location.  BikerGirl and I typically ride between 450-500 miles per day on our road trips.  It would be a four to five day trip each way for us to ride the 2200 odd miles to reach a Ground Zero somewhere in Southern Idaho or Northern Utah, and that is if we stopped to see nothing along the way.  Add the five days for the actual event and we're over a two-week commitment of time and expenses to attend Inzane XVII.

My wife and I are blessed to be retired and our time is our own, but I recall working for a boss whose opinion was that if I could take a two week vacation then I wasn't really needed.  Even with 20+ years with the organization it was like pulling teeth to get a lengthy period of time off.  I would not be able to attend next year's Inzane were I still working.  Given our situation in life today we do hope to make it next year if at all possible.

So...I understand the frustrations - but I agree it is only fair that our friends out West have opportunities to attend this fun, worthwhile event without burning through too much leave time and/or ticking off their boss! 

Hope to see as many of our East Coast area friends at Inzane XVII as can possibly make the trip by Valk, car, or plane.  And, thanks to our Staff for the early notice and great planning for next year's gathering.

[BobB]

I would like to know the dates ASAP, the location not so much.  I would like to camp in Yellowstone for a few days before or after Inzane.  Yellowstone has been on my bucket list since I bought the Valk. 

In the summer of 1966 I rode out west on a H-D 883 XLH Sportser with a friend on a FLH from Milwaukee.  For several days, we camped at the Old Faithful campground which appears to no longer exist.  That two weeks was the first, and is the most memorable, motorcycle journey of my life...

[Tailgate Tommy]

I have been blessed to attend all but 3 Inzanes. I think the Staff is awesome to put in the time it takes to bring about these rallies. I do a small ride (Crazyhorse Veterans Day Ride) each year and it takes time to plan it. Nothing compared to what is required of the VRCC Staff. Thanks guys and hope to see you at Inzane next year.

Thank you Mr. McCain. It's comments like yours that make things worthwhile. There are some folks that need to go back and review there general board post history and compare positive post's to negative ones. I think some would have to dig pretty deep to find a positive post, about anything. Thank you to all that have made it a point to put InZane, the volunteers of this great club, and the VRCC staff in a positive light. Sometimes it really is a thankless job no matter how hard we try. I look forward to sharing Inzane 17 with you. 

Amen! Thanks to all the VRCC staff for all their hard work and preplanning. I think it's great to have the opportunity to preplan the next year's InZane early by getting an approximate location established. Really helps me out personally to know where it will be since if its east of Colorado I trailer my bike to my mother-in-laws house in Iowa, drop off the wife, then ride on to where ever IZ is. This year I can ride from home, I know about how many days to request off so my employer and I can plan for my absence. Also hopefully I can ride with the fine folks from the Colorado group and anyone else who wants to ride with us!

[Valker]

I would like to know the dates ASAP, the location not so much.  I would like to camp in Yellowstone for a few days before or after Inzane.  Yellowstone has been on my bucket list since I bought the Valk. 

In the summer of 1966 I rode out west on a H-D 883 XLH Sportser with a friend on a FLH from Milwaukee.  For several days, we camped at the Old Faithful campground which appears to no longer exist.  That two weeks was the first, and is the most memorable, motorcycle journey of my life...

The dates were already announced in this thread as well as the general area. Look back.

[Willow]

...
(BTW, Willow was being facetious, IZ17 won't be in Maine) 

What!!?     Willow?  Facetious?  Say it ain't so!    

...
No doubt some of us Easterners are going to be disappointed at next years Inzane location.  BikerGirl and I typically ride between 450-500 miles per day on our road trips.  It would be a four to five day trip each way for us to ride the 2200 odd miles to reach a Ground Zero somewhere in Southern Idaho or Northern Utah, and that is if we stopped to see nothing along the way.  Add the five days for the actual event and we're over a two-week commitment of time and expenses to attend Inzane XVII.
...

I'm not sure I like the implications of that paragraph.  If BikerGirl's not going to be there I'm out!   

[Woton]

You must have stopped reading too soon, Carl! 

We'll get her there if at all possible - unfortunately, I'll probably be tagging along...