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« on: July 31, 2016, 07:37:02 AM »

Somebody in the party needs to talk to Trump like Ike did to Patton in WWII.  Patton was a great general but was always opening his mouth or doing something to get in trouble.

While Trump isn't to be compared to Patton (not even close), he needs to engage his brain before opening his mouth. Case in point.  Badmouthing the mother of a slain soldier, Muslim or not, makes no difference, that should NOT be.  Trump is his own worse enemy.

He constantly gives the Democrats ammunition and now he's working on pissing off the Armed Forces.
He could lose the election unless someone clamps down on his unthinking BS.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2016, 07:54:42 AM »

     Did the Democratic Party not put that family on the national stage to put down Trump in a personal way? They did not acknowledge that people are using their faith to kill and injure as many of us as they can. Trump was not the cause of their sons death. Their indignation is misplaced.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2016, 07:58:00 AM »

     Did the Democratic Party not put that family on the national stage to put down Trump in a personal way? They did not acknowledge that people are using their faith to kill and injure as many of us as they can. Trump was not the cause of their sons death. Their indignation is misplaced.
I think you missed solo1's assertion completely.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2016, 08:03:42 AM »

I agree with all three posts above.   Trump's mouth is his worst enemy.   I would not have knocked the parents.

Won't change my vote against Hillary though.   The press is treating her like a rock star, she can do no wrong from everything I read but a few sources.    My vote won't really be for Trump but, it will be anti-Hillary.   She disgusts me.   tickedoff   I sincerely wish we had an icon puking.

Sorry, I don't mean to be shy about feelings toward Mrs Clinton.
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2016, 08:39:22 AM »

Having come this far could Trump be trying to put himself in a position where he can walk away from the Presidential campaign? Would save himself a lot of money and saving face if he shouldn't win.

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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2016, 08:40:12 AM »

Yep, bonehead move.  If Trump truly wants to win ths race and become President (and I do want him to), he needs to STFU and start acting Presidential.  Maybe someone should slip him some mild sedatives from now until election day.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2016, 08:55:27 AM »

When I went to "A" School in the Navy at Memphis Tn. one of our instructors ALWAYS Told us-Make SURE brain is engaged BEFORE putting mouth in gear. I KNOW I have Forgotten that long ago lesson. I too would like to see P O T U S before Mr. Trumps name. You will git nowhere slandering the Veterans. And by extension heir Families-No Matter their Religion. IF he wants to be instrumental in putting hilda in office he IS on the right track. As ANY decent shooter will tell you-It's-ready  aim  fire NOT ready  fire  aim!  uglystupid2 RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2016, 09:31:04 AM »

Somebody in the party needs to talk to Trump like Ike did to Patton in WWII.  Patton was a great general but was always opening his mouth or doing something to get in trouble.

  Badmouthing the mother of a slain soldier, Muslim or not, makes no difference, that should NOT be.  Trump is his own worse enemy.



I agree with your assessment of Trump's mouth. But I don't feel Trump bad mouthed the mother. He suggested perhaps she was not allowed to speak because she was restricted by her husband or tenants of the Muslim faith.  That IMHO that was a comment on of Islamic culture.  He also praised the deceased son as a hero. How is that offense to the military? He even said he believed the father was a good man. 
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2016, 09:52:06 AM »

Somebody in the party needs to talk to Trump like Ike did to Patton in WWII.  Patton was a great general but was always opening his mouth or doing something to get in trouble.

  Badmouthing the mother of a slain soldier, Muslim or not, makes no difference, that should NOT be.  Trump is his own worse enemy.



I agree with your assessment of Trump's mouth. But I don't feel Trump bad mouthed the mother. He suggested perhaps she was not allowed to speak because she was restricted by her husband or tenants of the Muslim faith.  That IMHO that was a comment on of Islamic culture.  He also praised the deceased son as a hero. How is that offense to the military? He even said he believed the father was a good man. 
In my opinion this was his offense to the military:


Mr. Stephanopoulos asked: “How would you answer that father? What sacrifice have you made for your country?”

Mr. Trump: “I think I’ve made a lot of sacrifices. I work very, very hard. I’ve created thousands and thousands of jobs. Tens of thousands of jobs.”
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2016, 10:16:10 AM »

In my opinion this was his offense to the military:


Mr. Stephanopoulos asked: “How would you answer that father? What sacrifice have you made for your country?”

Mr. Trump: “I think I’ve made a lot of sacrifices. I work very, very hard. I’ve created thousands and thousands of jobs. Tens of thousands of jobs.”


It's all about perspective.  

 I put a lot of years in serving in the Marines and the Army.   I was not offended by Trump's remarks.   I do think it was a low point for the Clinton folks to ask that family to speak.   I've lost friends and known many people who have served in and during the middle eastern conflict, to include both of my children.   Both of my  kids came home safe.   I'm very grateful for that.  
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2016, 11:35:18 AM »

I could sum it up by saying that there was no need for him to mention that the wife was silent,  infer that it was because of the Muslim religion, and then asked his listeners to sorta agree with him.

The controversy arose when he unnecessarily   just had to mention it.    Silence, in this case, would've been golden but he had to yap. Sad

He has the right ideas, and I think that he is sincere in what he wants to do but why over the top comments that will raise doubts in undecided voters.

He has to get rid of the "ready, fire, aim" problem as Dennis described it.  Good description, Dennis.




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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2016, 12:02:23 PM »

The whole thing was a fiasco from the DNC having them up there complaining about Trump and to Trump for falling into the trap and opening his trap. He had nothing to do with their son dying. I agree with him wanting to stop them from coming into this country until we know what their intentions are.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2016, 12:53:04 PM »

Let me see if I'm correct. So most of you guys are just fine with the idea that mr. Trump is an unguided missile (ready, fire, aim!) as long as he doesn't show it? Interesting...
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2016, 01:26:08 PM »

If Mr. Trump just woke up one day and said "I'll think I'll pick on some random Muslim Gold Star Family" then sure, he would have been way out of line.

But this Gold Star Dad and Mom dove head first into the political pool and called Mr. Trump out on a National Stage. You don't get to do that to anyone with impunity. Don't care who you are.

If a Gold Star Family got up on the GOP stage and bashed Mrs. Clinton, they would be politically fair game too.

They have every right to say what they want. They have every right to support who they want. But if the Democrats thought that this family's sacrifice and the sacrifice of their son would insulate them from the politics, they were wrong. That only insulates them as to who they publicly support, not who they choose to publicly bash.
As I said, these folks dove head first into the political pool. The deep end, where the sharks live. Their choice.





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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2016, 01:38:46 PM »

If Mr. Trump just woke up one day and said "I'll think I'll pick on some random Muslim Gold Star Family" then sure, he would have been way out of line.

But this Gold Star Dad and Mom dove head first into the political pool and called Mr. Trump out on a National Stage. You don't get to do that to anyone with impunity. Don't care who you are.

If a Gold Star Family got up on the GOP stage and bashed Mrs. Clinton, they would be politically fair game too.

They have every right to say what they want. They have every right to support who they want. But if the Democrats thought that this family's sacrifice and the sacrifice of their son would insulate them from the politics, they were wrong. That only insulates them as to who they publicly support, not who they choose to publicly bash.
As I said, these folks dove head first into the political pool. The deep end, where the sharks live. Their choice.








You mean like this?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/18/politics/benghazi-mother-hillary-clinton-rnc/

And from the other side of the coin...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/23/politics/benghazi-ambassador-mother-trump-complaint/
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2016, 02:19:07 PM »

Well , Mr F-six, you are finally contributing in some way ???? haven't seen that before from you. Oh yea, 5 posts. If you read the statements they were talking about his response , not so much his actions.

Are you even in or from this country?
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2016, 02:34:31 PM »

I could sum it up by saying that there was no need for him to mention that the wife was silent,  infer that it was because of the Muslim religion, and then asked his listeners to sorta agree with him.

The controversy arose when he unnecessarily   just had to mention it.    Silence, in this case, would've been golden but he had to yap. Sad

He has the right ideas, and I think that he is sincere in what he wants to do but why over the top comments that will raise doubts in undecided voters.

He has to get rid of the "ready, fire, aim" problem as Dennis described it.  Good description, Dennis.


I'm afraid all this goes with the package..."Trump just being Trump". Supporters loved it during the primaries. Hell, they even overlooked his making fun of the disabled. But now, as he actually gets close to being President, I think many are having second thoughts. Imagine these, almost constant, gaffs aimed at an ally/head of state. Give him a month of this and we won't have a friend left in the world.

Be careful what you wish for.





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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2016, 03:16:07 PM »

If Mr. Trump just woke up one day and said "I'll think I'll pick on some random Muslim Gold Star Family" then sure, he would have been way out of line.

But this Gold Star Dad and Mom dove head first into the political pool and called Mr. Trump out on a National Stage. You don't get to do that to anyone with impunity. Don't care who you are.

If a Gold Star Family got up on the GOP stage and bashed Mrs. Clinton, they would be politically fair game too.

They have every right to say what they want. They have every right to support who they want. But if the Democrats thought that this family's sacrifice and the sacrifice of their son would insulate them from the politics, they were wrong. That only insulates them as to who they publicly support, not who they choose to publicly bash.
As I said, these folks dove head first into the political pool. The deep end, where the sharks live. Their choice.








You mean like this?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/18/politics/benghazi-mother-hillary-clinton-rnc/

And from the other side of the coin...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/23/politics/benghazi-ambassador-mother-trump-complaint/


These example are not in the same context as the Gold Star family at the DNC but it is close enough to qualify for the deep end of the pool nonetheless.

If Mrs. Clinton wants to take up the issue with the Benghazi Mother, you wouldn't hear anything from me saying that she shouldn't because the woman lost her son. This assuming she would stay reasonably on point. The woman got up there on the National political stage, dove head first into the fray and Mrs. Clinton has the right to vigorously defend herself and her actions and prove that woman wrong in that political theater.

As to the ambassador's Mother, the Ambassador's death was a result of failed policy at the State Department. Mrs. Clinton was Sec. of State. It is a legitimate issue. For anyone. Including Mr. Trump.
It is disingenuous to make a plea that Mr. Trump basically ignore the issue while it continues to be a pivotal issue of investigations and policy discussions. 
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2016, 03:25:22 PM »

Well , Mr F-six, you are finally contributing in some way ???? haven't seen that before from you. Oh yea, 5 posts. If you read the statements they were talking about his response , not so much his actions.

Are you even in or from this country?
Mr. Roid, maybe the reason why he has 5 posts is because of responses such as yours. Why would you question where he lives or where he is from ? We have members from all parts of the world, do they not have a right to ask a question ? I certainly don't hold it against you that you hail from Alabama.
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2016, 03:40:56 PM »

Will Rogers once said never miss an opportunity to shut your mouth

Abba Eban once said of the arabs that they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity

Somewhere in the middle is that happy land where unicorns frolic and all agree

No I really dont believe that

Mr Trump is what he is,
Mrs Clinton is what she is

All the rest is spin.

We have had many variations on f6 on this forum. Where are you from newbie poster and dont be scared of the barking dogs on either side.  They all ride Valkyries so they cant be as bad as they seem
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2016, 03:52:35 PM »

Will Rogers once said never miss an opportunity to shut your mouth

Abba Eban once said of the arabs that they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity

Somewhere in the middle is that happy land where unicorns frolic and all agree

No I really dont believe that

Mr Trump is what he is,
Mrs Clinton is what she is

All the rest is spin.

We have had many variations on f6 on this forum. Where are you from newbie poster and dont be scared of the barking dogs on either side.  They all ride Valkyries so they cant be as bad as they seem

I want to go to that happy land where unicorns frolic and there is an endless supply of secretary auditions. Will we be near it on the Catskills ride ?  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2016, 04:41:21 PM »

Somebody in the party needs to talk to Trump like Ike did to Patton in WWII.  Patton was a great general but was always opening his mouth or doing something to get in trouble.

While Trump isn't to be compared to Patton (not even close), he needs to engage his brain before opening his mouth. Case in point.  Badmouthing the mother of a slain soldier, Muslim or not, makes no difference, that should NOT be.  Trump is his own worse enemy.

He constantly gives the Democrats ammunition and now he's working on pissing off the Armed Forces.
He could lose the election unless someone clamps down on his unthinking BS.
He's the poster boy for "You Can't Fix Stupid".  He doesn't take ANYONE'S advice about anything.
Don't forget, he's not part of the party...he's an outsider and so he's his own party and won't tolerate anyone around him that contradicts his wishes...you're fired!!!!
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2016, 05:14:45 PM »

Some of the intent of Trumps remarks is hard to understand, but I have not really seen him make a stupid remark. The news outlets are against him so I have learned to go back and really understand what he is saying before reacting to what they say. Some things have been too complicated to understand without having a understanding of the subject he was talking about. Easy spin material for the jaded news outlets. Any bit of ambiguity in any of his statements can be twisted and used against him by the news.

  Not to say he has not said anything wrong but hell Hillary can break the law and no one does anything about it. I want to gag every time I see her, she is a albatross around the neck of the legal and political system of this country. Some portion of Truth, integrity, honor, respectability has died in the US that we could even consider a person with her record for the highest, most honorable office in the world.

A few things below to think about.

 The Post "aims it's guns" at the TEMPERAMENT of Donald Trump and spins the story-line into, "can a man with this kind of TEMPERAMENT be trusted to president"

The article and others attempt to plant the seeds which the media hopes will bear the fruit of doubt and question in the minds of voting Americans. In truth, if the media was really concerned about TEMPERAMENT and the mental faculties of candidate, they would be on HRC like a bee on honey. I challenge each and everyone to count how many times you hear the word TEMPERAMENT from now till Friday.








 
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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2016, 06:09:13 PM »

Some of the intent of Trumps remarks is hard to understand, but I have not really seen him make a stupid remark.





 
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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2016, 06:19:48 PM »

Some of the intent of Trumps remarks is hard to understand, but I have not really seen him make a stupid remark.





 
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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2016, 06:38:12 PM »

Some of the intent of Trumps remarks is hard to understand, but I have not really seen him make a stupid remark.
 
  2funny crazy2 2funny Talk about drinking the Kool Aid.  Shocked

Interpretation is understanding the context that a remark was made in. Both interpretation and context speak of subjective thought processes.

Subjective thinking is any form of thinking or mind-picturing that has depth of feeling, that goes beneath the surface in its action, that moves through the undercurrents, that acts in and through the psychological field. Subjective thought is synonymous with the thought of the heart, and it is subjective thought that is referred to in the statement, "As a man thinketh in his heart so is he."

To speak in these terms and to understand in these terms means you have to be able to have a understanding how things are operate and are construed. Without this understanding and knowledge even the Bible seems stupid. I would say that this is not something you posses. Its not koolaid and its not something that, if you are not fed up with the current admin I would guess you would understand. That is the very thing that I dont like about this current admin. All words contrary to action with a political goal to screw the US. Most all who dont have subjective thinking fall for the words. While those with subjective thinking talk, goals, morals, intent, actions in the understanding these are what reflects the true nature of a person.
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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2016, 06:43:01 PM »

Some of the intent of Trumps remarks is hard to understand, but I have not really seen him make a stupid remark.
 
  2funny crazy2 2funny Talk about drinking the Kool Aid.  Shocked

Interpretation is understanding the context that a remark was made in. Both interpretation and context speak of subjective thought processes.

Subjective thinking is any form of thinking or mind-picturing that has depth of feeling, that goes beneath the surface in its action, that moves through the undercurrents, that acts in and through the psychological field. Subjective thought is synonymous with the thought of the heart, and it is subjective thought that is referred to in the statement, "As a man thinketh in his heart so is he."

To speak in these terms and to understand in these terms means you have to be able to have a understanding how things are operate and are construed. Without this understanding and knowledge even the Bible seems stupid. I would say that this is not something you posses. Its not koolaid and its not something that, if you are not fed up with the current admin I would guess you would understand. That is the very thing that I dont like about this current admin. All words contrary to action with a political goal to screw the US. Most all who dont have subjective thinking fall for the words. While those with subjective thinking talk, goals, morals, intent, actions in the understanding these are what reflects the true nature of a person.
In other words, you see what you want to see.  coolsmiley
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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2016, 06:45:19 PM »

Some of the intent of Trumps remarks is hard to understand, but I have not really seen him make a stupid remark.
 
  2funny crazy2 2funny Talk about drinking the Kool Aid.  Shocked

Interpretation is understanding the context that a remark was made in. Both interpretation and context speak of subjective thought processes.

Subjective thinking is any form of thinking or mind-picturing that has depth of feeling, that goes beneath the surface in its action, that moves through the undercurrents, that acts in and through the psychological field. Subjective thought is synonymous with the thought of the heart, and it is subjective thought that is referred to in the statement, "As a man thinketh in his heart so is he."

To speak in these terms and to understand in these terms means you have to be able to have a understanding how things are operate and are construed. Without this understanding and knowledge even the Bible seems stupid. I would say that this is not something you posses. Its not koolaid and its not something that, if you are not fed up with the current admin I would guess you would understand. That is the very thing that I dont like about this current admin. All words contrary to action with a political goal to screw the US. Most all who dont have subjective thinking fall for the words. While those with subjective thinking talk, goals, morals, intent, actions in the understanding these are what reflects the true nature of a person.
In other words, you see what you want to see.  coolsmiley

As you also, the difference is one is based on reality the other emotion now I will leave it to you.  coolsmiley
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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2016, 07:01:26 PM »

Some of the intent of Trumps remarks is hard to understand, but I have not really seen him make a stupid remark.
 
  2funny crazy2 2funny Talk about drinking the Kool Aid.  Shocked

Interpretation is understanding the context that a remark was made in. Both interpretation and context speak of subjective thought processes.

Subjective thinking is any form of thinking or mind-picturing that has depth of feeling, that goes beneath the surface in its action, that moves through the undercurrents, that acts in and through the psychological field. Subjective thought is synonymous with the thought of the heart, and it is subjective thought that is referred to in the statement, "As a man thinketh in his heart so is he."

To speak in these terms and to understand in these terms means you have to be able to have a understanding how things are operate and are construed. Without this understanding and knowledge even the Bible seems stupid. I would say that this is not something you posses. Its not koolaid and its not something that, if you are not fed up with the current admin I would guess you would understand. That is the very thing that I dont like about this current admin. All words contrary to action with a political goal to screw the US. Most all who dont have subjective thinking fall for the words. While those with subjective thinking talk, goals, morals, intent, actions in the understanding these are what reflects the true nature of a person.
In other words, you see what you want to see.  coolsmiley

As you also, the difference is one is based on reality the other emotion now I will leave it to you.  coolsmiley
Its all yours. If you have not heard him say something stupid, I think my point has been made.
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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2016, 08:21:03 PM »

If he thinks he was embarrassed today, just wait...

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« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2016, 08:25:32 PM »

Some of the intent of Trumps remarks is hard to understand, but I have not really seen him make a stupid remark.
 
  2funny crazy2 2funny Talk about drinking the Kool Aid.  Shocked

Interpretation is understanding the context that a remark was made in. Both interpretation and context speak of subjective thought processes.

Subjective thinking is any form of thinking or mind-picturing that has depth of feeling, that goes beneath the surface in its action, that moves through the undercurrents, that acts in and through the psychological field. Subjective thought is synonymous with the thought of the heart, and it is subjective thought that is referred to in the statement, "As a man thinketh in his heart so is he."

To speak in these terms and to understand in these terms means you have to be able to have a understanding how things are operate and are construed. Without this understanding and knowledge even the Bible seems stupid. I would say that this is not something you posses. Its not koolaid and its not something that, if you are not fed up with the current admin I would guess you would understand. That is the very thing that I dont like about this current admin. All words contrary to action with a political goal to screw the US. Most all who dont have subjective thinking fall for the words. While those with subjective thinking talk, goals, morals, intent, actions in the understanding these are what reflects the true nature of a person.
In other words, you see what you want to see.  coolsmiley

As you also, the difference is one is based on reality the other emotion now I will leave it to you.  coolsmiley
Its all yours. If you have not heard him say something stupid, I think my point has been made.


    Now you got me to thinking, have you posted anything stupid?
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« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2016, 08:28:14 PM »

Some of the intent of Trumps remarks is hard to understand, but I have not really seen him make a stupid remark.
 
  2funny crazy2 2funny Talk about drinking the Kool Aid.  Shocked

Interpretation is understanding the context that a remark was made in. Both interpretation and context speak of subjective thought processes.

Subjective thinking is any form of thinking or mind-picturing that has depth of feeling, that goes beneath the surface in its action, that moves through the undercurrents, that acts in and through the psychological field. Subjective thought is synonymous with the thought of the heart, and it is subjective thought that is referred to in the statement, "As a man thinketh in his heart so is he."

To speak in these terms and to understand in these terms means you have to be able to have a understanding how things are operate and are construed. Without this understanding and knowledge even the Bible seems stupid. I would say that this is not something you posses. Its not koolaid and its not something that, if you are not fed up with the current admin I would guess you would understand. That is the very thing that I dont like about this current admin. All words contrary to action with a political goal to screw the US. Most all who dont have subjective thinking fall for the words. While those with subjective thinking talk, goals, morals, intent, actions in the understanding these are what reflects the true nature of a person.
In other words, you see what you want to see.  coolsmiley

As you also, the difference is one is based on reality the other emotion now I will leave it to you.  coolsmiley
Its all yours. If you have not heard him say something stupid, I think my point has been made.


    Now you got me to thinking, have you posted anything stupid?
Many, I'm sure Wink
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« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2016, 05:21:38 AM »

if you note, I compared him to General Patton.   Patton was a brilliant tactician but he had a big mouth.

Now I'm not saying that Trump is brilliant, i don't know.  I AM saying that he has a big mouth.

He is not the Establishment.  He is not a politician.   He now is the only alternative to a person with a known ability to lie.  He is an alternative to a person who is known to treat our country's security with disrespect. He is the alternative to a person who quite possibly, let four of  our citizens to die.

He is a person who , rightfully,  has the trust of the majority of those that do not want to see another Clinton i(two of them) in the Whitehouse. 

So, despite his faults, he is my choice and I will NOT be persuaded otherwise.
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« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2016, 05:30:39 AM »

if you note, I compared him to General Patton.   Patton was a brilliant tactician but he had a big mouth.

Now I'm not saying that Trump is brilliant, i don't know.  I AM saying that he has a big mouth.

He is not the Establishment.  He is not a politician.   He now is the only alternative to a person with a known ability to lie.  He is an alternative to a person who is known to treat our country's security with disrespect. He is the alternative to a person who quite possibly, let four of  our citizens to die.

He is a person who , rightfully,  has the trust of the majority of those that do not want to see another Clinton i(two of them) in the Whitehouse. 

So, despite his faults, he is my choice and I will NOT be persuaded otherwise.
No matter what he says or does ?
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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2016, 05:34:29 AM »

This interview doesn't scare anyone?

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/trump-crimeas-people-prefer-russia-elected-putin-ukraine/story?id=41029437
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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2016, 06:02:51 AM »

No matter what he says or does ?QUOTE by Meathead.

Nothing that he says or does before he's elected, yes, that's true. I can't control what he says. My choice won't change. There are only two choices.


Let me clear the air.  The second amendment and others are at stake here. Anyone, like Hilary, who proclaims that the Constitution is a 'living' document would not be one that I would want to pick future SCOTUS judges, even though the Senate has "Advise and Consent".  Hilary thinks that way, she has said so.

I'm no longer going to defend my choice. Fight it out between you, LOL.

End of my story.............and THAT is how I really feel! Smiley
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« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2016, 06:06:47 AM »

Unfortunately, Trump is the only possible alternative to beating Hillary.   I'd vote for that dead gorilla before I'd vote for a cheating, lying con-woman like her.    I absolutely despise her.   She embodies everything I consider evil.    If you haven't figured out I'm not a fan, just let me know.  

No, I'm not a Trump fan either but, he's my only option so, he'll get my vote.   The only other option is to not vote.   Can't do that, that would only aid Hillary.   SCOTUS is at stake!!!   I honestly don't think either of the potential candidates will get much cooperation from Congress which should nullify their effect.

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Anyone, like Hilary, who proclaims that the Constitution is a 'living' document would not be one that I would want to pick future SCOTUS judges, even though the Senate has "Advise and Consent".  Hilary thinks that way, she has said so.

The Constitution is a "living Document".   What the Dems fail to recognize is that it takes a Constitutional Amendment and a 2/3rds State vote to make those changes.    It is not done through Presidential Executive Order.
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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2016, 06:54:16 AM »

if you note, I compared him to General Patton.   Patton was a brilliant tactician but he had a big mouth.

Now I'm not saying that Trump is brilliant, i don't know.  I AM saying that he has a big mouth.

He is not the Establishment.  He is not a politician.   He now is the only alternative to a person with a known ability to lie.  He is an alternative to a person who is known to treat our country's security with disrespect. He is the alternative to a person who quite possibly, let four of  our citizens to die.

He is a person who , rightfully,  has the trust of the majority of those that do not want to see another Clinton i(two of them) in the Whitehouse.  

So, despite his faults, he is my choice and I will NOT be persuaded otherwise.
No matter what he says or does ?

YES.  

We just had a rank amateur with a clear intent to bring the country to it's knees for 8 years.  Hillary is the two point O of the same (zero) program.

Unrestricted and unvetted immigration (especially from the middle east), ordered violation of existing immigration laws, open borders, secret importation to unknowing cities all over the country, catch and release of thousands of illegal criminals (who are killing and raping), allowing (probably assisting) the IRS to become an active agent of the DNC, co-opting the DOJ to do your bidding in law breaking and mindless PC enforcement, law ignoring, frustrating all efforts at investigation, contempt of congress twice for noncooperation, a huge income redistribution health care fiasco with unworkable and unaffordable insurance and penalties for the unwilling or unable, a complete failure at foreign relations with destabilization of the entire middle east and the rise of ISIS (the equivalent of a human killing virus spreading worldwide), constantly growing govt and taxes and regulations imposed by fiat with no end in sight, unfavorable (to US business) trade agreements, globalism and UN socialism made more important than national interests and security, an open war on the 2d amendment and (only) law abiding gun owners, with a promise to pack the SCOTUS (and all federal courts) with openly liberal and anti 2d amendment judges, attempted adoption of a UN anti-private gun treaty, expansion at every angle of the DNC vote buying program through expansion of free money and benefits to the free crap army, abandonment of any effort at avoiding/enforcement against fraudulent claims, blocking every reasonable effort at state voter ID laws (by the DOJ), unrestricted illegal immigration (again, as future DNC voters), attempts to raise the minimum wage, near impossible regulatory roadblocks to small business creation and operation, creation of a climate of racial/and income division to near open class warfare and police hatred and murder, a desire to federalize all state and local police departments as an open threat to any concept of states rights and autonomy (and future enforcement of any and all draconian federal decrees)(and future use of FEMA camps), promises of increasing taxes across the board, a social culling of forced retirement and separation of our best and brightest senior military warrior leadership (leaving only YES men in place), using our US armed forces as a giant social experiment, rules of engagement in combat that require us to be killed before we fight back, an outright attack on judeo christian values in everyday life, failing schools, socialism as an agenda taught and enforced from K-12 (more future vote buying), abandonment of any concept of a balanced budget, doubling of the national debt beyond astronomical, a debt that takes a whopping percentage of annual tax income just to pay the interest,  advancing 15% ethanol when it is known to destroy virtually all carberated machinery, wasting billions on alternative energy and then letting the money disappear (without apparent interest or concern) when the fairy tale energy quickly fails to materialize, attacking oil and coal at every level, adopting fairy tale global warming as a huge national imperative, as a subterfuge for higher taxes, regulation and punishment of oil and coal industries, massive loss of jobs and employment and manufacturing as a way to increase the permanent membership of the free crap army (vote buying again), using the main stream media as your constant cheer leader to support any and all socialist programs and PC horseshit, however misguided to keep the US people in a constant state of agitation, fear, uncertainty to divide and conquer, to hide the ball, and to make everyone more dependent on an ever expanding, over reaching, over taxing, over regulating, over spending and out of control US federal government.

If this is your program, vote for the bitch.  If it's not your program, vote against the bitch.  
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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2016, 07:14:31 AM »

    Now you got me to thinking, have you posted anything stupid?

I think we've all posted something "stupid" at one point or another.   But, I will give Meathead credit where credit is due.   He does have his priorities...................

I want to go to that happy land where unicorns frolic and there is an endless supply of secretary auditions.

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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2016, 07:29:04 AM »

if you note, I compared him to General Patton.   Patton was a brilliant tactician but he had a big mouth.

Now I'm not saying that Trump is brilliant, i don't know.  I AM saying that he has a big mouth.

He is not the Establishment.  He is not a politician.   He now is the only alternative to a person with a known ability to lie.  He is an alternative to a person who is known to treat our country's security with disrespect. He is the alternative to a person who quite possibly, let four of  our citizens to die.

He is a person who , rightfully,  has the trust of the majority of those that do not want to see another Clinton i(two of them) in the Whitehouse.  

So, despite his faults, he is my choice and I will NOT be persuaded otherwise.
No matter what he says or does ?


YES.  

We just had a rank amateur with a clear intent to bring the country to it's knees for 8 years.  Hillary is  the two point O of the same program.

Unrestricted and unvetted immigration (especially from the middle east), ordered violation of existing immigration laws, open borders, secret importation to unknowing cities all over the country, catch and release of thousands of illegal criminals (who are killing and raping), allowing (probably assisting) the IRS to become an active agent of the DNC, co-opting the DOJ to do your bidding in law breaking and mindless PC enforcement, law ignoring, frustrating all efforts at investigation, contempt of congress twice for noncooperation, a huge income redistribution health care fiasco with unworkable and unaffordable insurance and penalties for the unwilling or unable, a complete failure at foreign relations with destabilization of the entire middle east and the rise of ISIS (the equivalent of a human killing virus spreading worldwide), constantly growing govt and taxes and regulations imposed by fiat with no end in sight, unfavorable (to US business) trade agreements, globalism and UN socialism made more important than national interests and security, an open war on the 2d amendment and (only) law abiding gun owners, with a promise to pack the SCOTUS (and all federal courts) with openly liberal and anti 2d amendment judges, attempted adoption of a UN anti-private gun treaty, expansion at every angle of the DNC vote buying program through expansion of free money and benefits to the free crap army, abandonment of any effort at avoiding/enforcement against fraudulent claims, blocking every reasonable effort at state voter ID laws (by the DOJ), unrestricted illegal immigration (again, as future DNC voters), attempts to raise the minimum wage, near impossible regulatory roadblocks to small business creation and operation, creation of a climate of racial/and income division to near open class warfare and police hatred and murder, a desire to federalize all state and local police departments as an open threat to any concept of states rights and autonomy (and future enforcement of any and all draconian federal decrees)(and future use of FEMA camps), promises of increasing taxes across the board, a social culling of forced retirement and separation of our best and brightest senior military warrior leadership (leaving only YES men in place), using our US armed forces as a giant social experiment, rules of engagement in combat that require us to be killed before we fight back, an outright attack on judeo christian values in everyday life, failing schools, socialism as an agenda taught and enforced from K-12 (more future vote buying), abandonment of any concept of a balanced budget, doubling of the national debt beyond astronomical, a debt that takes a whopping percentage of annual tax income just to pay the interest,  advancing 15% ethanol when it is known to destroy virtually all carberated machinery, wasting billions on alternative energy and then letting the money disappear (without apparent interest or concern) when the fairy tale energy quickly fails to materialize, attacking oil and coal at every level, adopting fairy tale global warming as a huge national imperative, as a subterfuge for higher taxes, regulation and punishment of oil and coal industries, massive loss of jobs and employment and manufacturing as a way to increase the permanent membership of the free crap army (vote buying again), using the main stream media as your constant cheer leader to support any and all socialist programs and PC horseshit, however misguided to keep the US people in a constant state of agitation, fear, uncertainty to divide and conquer, to hide the ball, and to make everyone more dependent on an ever expanding, over reaching, over taxing, over regulating, over spending and out of control US federal government.

If this is your program, vote for the bitch.  If it's not your program, vote against the bitch.  


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