Mr Trump acting badly

[baldo]

Well, the Donald is at it again....this should really be a daily post...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/24/donald-trump-used-campaign-donations-to-buy-55-000-of-his-own-book.html?via=FB_Page&source=HuffPoFacebook

I got a kick out of this. Interesting swag choices....Kleenex and fetuses....

Excerpt:

"A spokesperson for the Republican nominee told The Daily Beast the books were purchased “as part of gifting at the convention, which we have to do.” Sure enough, delegates in attendance at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July were given canvas tote bags, stamped with the Trump slogan, and filled with copies of Crippled America, as well as Kleenex and Make America Great Again! cups, hats, and T-shirts. Delegates were also given plastic fetus figurines."

[Serk]

I've got a challenge for you.

Convince me to vote for Hillary, without mentioning Trump.

[Jess from VA]

this should really be a daily post...

No... it shouldn't.  (But if it has to be, keep it in one thread so we can be sure to skip it.)

[FLAVALK]

I've got a challenge for you.

Convince me to vote for Hillary, without mentioning Trump.

Wow! That is a challenge 

[FLAVALK]

Along with the Trump daily post, you should also post "Hillary's Daily Lie".

However, it might prove difficult to determine which of her daily lies is the most post-worthy  

[Psychotic Bovine]

So, tell me what is worse.  A guy taking money from a campaign fund and putting it into his own campaign, or someone setting up a "non profit foundation" that funnels money into their own pocket?

[baldo]

I've got a challenge for you.

Convince me to vote for Hillary, without mentioning Trump.

Well Serk, that is a challenge. However, you being a more reasonable man than some others here,  I accept your challenge.

Let me work on that in order to be as accurate as possible, and I'll reply later, possibly this evening. This requires more time than I can give it right now. I shouldn't be on here at all. Work beckons, don't you know.

[baldo]

Along with the Trump daily post, you should also post "Hillary's Daily Lie".

However, it might prove difficult to determine which of her daily lies is the most post-worthy  

Have at it, Big Fella....

[Serk]

I've got a challenge for you.

Convince me to vote for Hillary, without mentioning Trump.

Well Serk, that is a challenge. However, you being a more reasonable man than some others here,  I accept your challenge.

Let me work on that in order to be as accurate as possible, and I'll reply later, possibly this evening. This requires more time than I can give it right now. I shouldn't be on here at all. Work beckons, don't you know.

(Disclaimer - There is nothing you can say to convince me to vote for her. And I'll admit, I can't make an argument to vote for Trump that doesn't leverage Hillary either. But it is an interesting mental exercise to analyze the situation from the perspective of trying to find anything positive about either that doesn't rely on the other being even worse.)

[The emperor has no clothes]

So, tell me what is worse.  A guy taking money from a campaign fund and putting it into his own campaign, or someone setting up a "non profit foundation" that funnels money into their own pocket?

I keep hearing this. Can someone explain or point to an explanation of how they are getting money from their foundation ?

[Alberta Patriot]

The Daily Beast is a far left yellow rag...simple as that...truth is not even in the cards with these pinheaded so called "journalists"...

BTW...The Clintons while Billy was Gov of Arkansas:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/09/04/arkansas-bloodsuckers-the-clintons-prisoners-and-the-blood-trade/

The next POTUS???:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvMXFjgqzW0

[Jess from VA]

So, tell me what is worse.  A guy taking money from a campaign fund and putting it into his own campaign, or someone setting up a "non profit foundation" that funnels money into their own pocket?

I keep hearing this. Can someone explain or point to an explanation of how they are getting money from their foundation ?

It is important to keep in mind what the Clinton Foundation mainly does: It does precious little in the way of actual philanthropy ($9 million worth out of $140 million in revenue for 2013) but instead spends almost all of its money on salaries and travel expenses for various Clintons (including Chelsea Clinton, now its vice chairman), Democratic allies, toadies, flunkies, hangers-on, and assorted minions. It is a full-employment sinecure program for friends and family of the Clinton political operation, and very little more.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439258/hillary-clinton-huma-abedin-troubling-questions-influence-peddling-corruption

[MP]

So, tell me what is worse.  A guy taking money from a campaign fund and putting it into his own campaign, or someone setting up a "non profit foundation" that funnels money into their own pocket?

I keep hearing this. Can someone explain or point to an explanation of how they are getting money from their foundation ?

One example.  Flew first class to Africa for several Clintons, and staff.  Stayed at hotels costing 1000's a night. Did touristy stuff. And, of by the way, visited a couple out in the back woods villages, where the Foundation had spent a few thou for things.

FOUNDATION PAID THE WHOLE BILL!

Also, reported that many staffers of the Foundation, paid wholly by the foundation, devote the vast majority of their time to campaign and other Clinton business, that is NOT foundation related.

[..]

Dig hole
Fall in
Oops

[Pete]

Well, the Donald is at it again....this should really be a daily post...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/24/donald-trump-used-campaign-donations-to-buy-55-000-of-his-own-book.html?via=FB_Page&source=HuffPoFacebook

I got a kick out of this. Interesting swag choices....Kleenex and fetuses....

Excerpt:

"A spokesperson for the Republican nominee told The Daily Beast the books were purchased “as part of gifting at the convention, which we have to do.” Sure enough, delegates in attendance at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July were given canvas tote bags, stamped with the Trump slogan, and filled with copies of Crippled America, as well as Kleenex and Make America Great Again! cups, hats, and T-shirts. Delegates were also given plastic fetus figurines."

If this is the best you can do the republicans are a shoo in!!!!!

[MP]

Well, the Donald is at it again....this should really be a daily post...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/24/donald-trump-used-campaign-donations-to-buy-55-000-of-his-own-book.html?via=FB_Page&source=HuffPoFacebook

I got a kick out of this. Interesting swag choices....Kleenex and fetuses....

Excerpt:

"A spokesperson for the Republican nominee told The Daily Beast the books were purchased “as part of gifting at the convention, which we have to do.” Sure enough, delegates in attendance at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July were given canvas tote bags, stamped with the Trump slogan, and filled with copies of Crippled America, as well as Kleenex and Make America Great Again! cups, hats, and T-shirts. Delegates were also given plastic fetus figurines."

WOW!  What a terrible thing to do.  Imagine, a candidate for President, actually giving away copies of his book, to those in attendance at the Convention!  The gall of it all!

Versus Hlllary getting millions from a foreign government, then within 48 hours, that head of gov't getting a private meeting with her!  And, her aide, detailing it all in a "deleted" email, proving it was pay for play!

Yep.  Hard to compare.

And, er, plastic fetuses.  Terrible.  Way worse than the Dems actually killing REAL fetuses, selling the parts needed, and throwing the rest in the trash! Darn plastic fetusus. The Repubs are so bad.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Well, the Donald is at it again....this should really be a daily post...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/24/donald-trump-used-campaign-donations-to-buy-55-000-of-his-own-book.html?via=FB_Page&source=HuffPoFacebook

I got a kick out of this. Interesting swag choices....Kleenex and fetuses....

Excerpt:

"A spokesperson for the Republican nominee told The Daily Beast the books were purchased “as part of gifting at the convention, which we have to do.” Sure enough, delegates in attendance at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July were given canvas tote bags, stamped with the Trump slogan, and filled with copies of Crippled America, as well as Kleenex and Make America Great Again! cups, hats, and T-shirts. Delegates were also given plastic fetus figurines."

WOW!  What a terrible thing to do.  Imagine, a candidate for President, actually giving away copies of his book, to those in attendance at the Convention!  The gall of it all!

Versus Hlllary getting millions from a foreign government, then within 48 hours, that head of gov't getting a private meeting with her!  And, her aide, detailing it all in a "deleted" email, proving it was pay for play!

Yep.  Hard to compare.

And, er, plastic fetuses.  Terrible.  Way worse than the Dems actually killing REAL fetuses, selling the parts needed, and throwing the rest in the trash! Darn plastic fetusus. The Repubs are so bad.

Uh... Maybe I'm missing something here. But isn't "giving something away" when you own or purchase it yourself and then gift it ? Buying books with other people's money and making a profit on that sale, then gifting them doesn't have the same feel to me. 

[indybobm]

Baldo, I am curious as to why you get so much enjoyment from this. Do you go around seeing how many sticks you can stick in spokes?

[Gavin_Sons]

Baldo, I am curious as to why you get so much enjoyment from this. Do you go around seeing how many sticks you can stick in spokes?

Can I answer for him? YES

[baldo]

Baldo, I am curious as to why you get so much enjoyment from this. Do you go around seeing how many sticks you can stick in spokes?

No, I wouldn't call it enjoyment. It's more like trying to rebut the endless attacks on Obama for how many years , and now Clinton. As a greatly outnumbered liberal on this board, I feel it's almost my duty to remind you guys just how batshit crazy this crap can be. I've never been one to just sit in the corner like a little church mouse, afraid to voice my opinion. And of course I know it ruffles some feathers, but that's the way it goes. I ignore most of what I read here, only responding to a small fraction. I wish I had a buck for every time someone slams a Democrat. A buck every time a lefty is called immoral and idiotic. Another buck for countless other slams. And you guys get all hot and bothered about the few things I post.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Baldo, I am curious as to why you get so much enjoyment from this. Do you go around seeing how many sticks you can stick in spokes?

No, I wouldn't call it enjoyment. It's more like trying to rebut the endless attacks on Obama for how many years , and now Clinton. As a greatly outnumbered liberal on this board, I feel it's almost my duty to remind you guys just how batshit crazy this crap can be. I've never been one to just sit in the corner like a little church mouse, afraid to voice my opinion. And of course I know it ruffles some feathers, but that's the way it goes. I ignore most of what I read here, only responding to a small fraction. I wish I had a buck for every time someone slams a Democrat. A buck every time a lefty is called immoral and idiotic. Another buck for countless other slams. And you guys get all hot and bothered about the few things I post.

Sounds like a pretty healthy attitude to me. 

[Willow]

Baldo, I am curious as to why you get so much enjoyment from this. Do you go around seeing how many sticks you can stick in spokes?

No, I wouldn't call it enjoyment. It's more like trying to rebut the endless attacks on Obama for how many years , and now Clinton. As a greatly outnumbered liberal on this board, I feel it's almost my duty to remind you guys just how batshit crazy this crap can be. I've never been one to just sit in the corner like a little church mouse, afraid to voice my opinion. And of course I know it ruffles some feathers, but that's the way it goes. I ignore most of what I read here, only responding to a small fraction. I wish I had a buck for every time someone slams a Democrat. A buck every time a lefty is called immoral and idiotic. Another buck for countless other slams. And you guys get all hot and bothered about the few things I post.

Sounds like a pretty healthy attitude to me. 

No, it really doesn't, meathead.  Healthy is the many, many of us who don't bother to participate in the divisive or bashing discussions or perhaps less so but still moderately healthy are those of us who only get involved after the discussion is underway to contradict what we see as batshit crazy.  Those who originate those threads are only involving themselves in the further diminishing of the VRCC message board.

The VRCC general message board is these days losing a long term fight for its life.  There are two enemies.  One is the increased activity on Facebook.  We can't do anything about that piece.  The other is the constant barrage of belittling or demeaning politically oriented threads.  There's some disagreement as to how much each of those is contributing to the ultimate demise of the community.  In my personal opinion they are both significant.

My personal preference would be that if one hates members of the VRCC so much that one feels the need to get on the community message board to bash and belittle what other members support then the community would be better off if that one just moved on.  That applies to people on both ends of the political spectrum. 

Incidentally, so we don't get this out of proportion, the originating of divisive, belittling political threads is basically something around a half dozen or a few more posters.       

[Gavin_Sons]

Baldo, I am curious as to why you get so much enjoyment from this. Do you go around seeing how many sticks you can stick in spokes?

No, I wouldn't call it enjoyment. It's more like trying to rebut the endless attacks on Obama for how many years , and now Clinton. As a greatly outnumbered liberal on this board, I feel it's almost my duty to remind you guys just how batshit crazy this crap can be. I've never been one to just sit in the corner like a little church mouse, afraid to voice my opinion. And of course I know it ruffles some feathers, but that's the way it goes. I ignore most of what I read here, only responding to a small fraction. I wish I had a buck for every time someone slams a Democrat. A buck every time a lefty is called immoral and idiotic. Another buck for countless other slams. And you guys get all hot and bothered about the few things I post.

Sounds like a pretty healthy attitude to me. 

No, it really doesn't, meathead.  Healthy is the many, many of us who don't bother to participate in the divisive or bashing discussions or perhaps less so but still moderately healthy are those of us who only get involved after the discussion is underway to contradict what we see as batshit crazy.  Those who originate those threads are only involving themselves in the further diminishing of the VRCC message board.

The VRCC general message board is these days losing a long term fight for its life.  There are two enemies.  One is the increased activity on Facebook.  We can't do anything about that piece.  The other is the constant barrage of belittling or demeaning politically oriented threads.  There's some disagreement as to how much each of those is contributing to the ultimate demise of the community.  In my personal opinion they are both significant.

My personal preference would be that if one hates members of the VRCC so much that one feels the need to get on the community message board to bash and belittle what other members support then the community would be better off if that one just moved on.  That applies to people on both ends of the political spectrum. 

Incidentally, so we don't get this out of proportion, the originating of divisive, belittling political threads is basically something around a half dozen or a few more posters.       

Thanks Willow, some dont realize they are contributing to the death of our little corner of the net. That goes for both sides starting a political thread meant to bash the ones they oppose. I do get caught up in the discussion bit have yet to start one. 

[mike72903]

I understand baldo's reasoning about countering some of the ridiculous claims about Obama and Clinton.  I was pretty amazed at what I read after I started reading the general forum. Tried it for a while, got weary of it and quit.  No loss to anyone and a plus for me. 

[baldo]

I've got a challenge for you.

Convince me to vote for Hillary, without mentioning Trump.

Well Serk, that is a challenge. However, you being a more reasonable man than some others here,  I accept your challenge.

Let me work on that in order to be as accurate as possible, and I'll reply later, possibly this evening. This requires more time than I can give it right now. I shouldn't be on here at all. Work beckons, don't you know.

(Disclaimer - There is nothing you can say to convince me to vote for her. And I'll admit, I can't make an argument to vote for Trump that doesn't leverage Hillary either. But it is an interesting mental exercise to analyze the situation from the perspective of trying to find anything positive about either that doesn't rely on the other being even worse.)

Well Serk, I wish I'd seen your reply before accepting your challenge. I think I'll pass. I won't be changing anyone's mind. I really don't think I want to take the time to do the research needed, just to have it trashed by any and all. I don't need the angina....

I'd be interested to see someone, anyone, tell us all why they'd vote for Trump. Not judging, just curious.

[Serk]

I'd be interested to see someone, anyone, tell us all why they'd vote for Trump. Not judging, just curious.

Because of the danger of Hillary making multiple SCOTUS lifetime appointments.

That's about all I got.

[DirtyDan]

I'm voting TRUMP

I'm conservative.......just born that way I guess

Dan

[baldo]

I'd be interested to see someone, anyone, tell us all why they'd vote for Trump. Not judging, just curious.

Because of the danger of Hillary making multiple SCOTUS lifetime appointments.

That's about all I got.

That's a good answer. Thank you for not saying something vapid like 'Take our country back' or 'Make America great again'...

[Pete]

I'd be interested to see someone, anyone, tell us all why they'd vote for Trump. Not judging, just curious.

Because of the danger of Hillary making multiple SCOTUS lifetime appointments.

That's about all I got.

That's a good answer. Thank you for not saying something vapid like 'Take our country back' or 'Make America great again'...

Her stand on the 2nd amendment is incompatible with the constitution and common logic.

[J.Mencalice]

I'd be interested to see someone, anyone, tell us all why they'd vote for Trump. Not judging, just curious.

Because of the danger of Hillary making multiple SCOTUS lifetime appointments.

That's about all I got.

The President can only make nominations to the court; it is the Senate that actually votes and makes the appointments.  So, if the Republicans hold on to the Senate majority vote, they'll control the process.  Currently there are seven seats that are classified as "toss-ups" for the 2016 election with a remaining 47/47 split.  Republicans true to their calling should concentrate on holding the Senate and write off Trump if they sincerely want to save the country for the continuation of their  Constitutional beliefs.  That's what the smart (and big, conservative) money is ultimately betting on behind the scenery.  Stay tuned.

[Pete]

I'd be interested to see someone, anyone, tell us all why they'd vote for Trump. Not judging, just curious.

Because of the danger of Hillary making multiple SCOTUS lifetime appointments.

That's about all I got.

The President can only make nominations to the court; it is the Senate that actually votes and makes the appointments.  So, if the Republicans hold on to the Senate majority vote, they'll control the process.  Currently there are seven seats that are classified as "toss-ups" for the 2016 election with a remaining 47/47 split.  Republicans true to their calling should concentrate on holding the Senate and write off Trump if they sincerely want to save the country for the continuation of their  Constitutional beliefs.  That's what the smart (and big, conservative) money is ultimately betting on behind the scenery.  Stay tuned.

Do you really think that the Repubs will hold the line on anything Hillary wants??
I have no faith in that happening, so no Hillary first, then the poor repubs have to find another way to fold.
And yes I understand how it works but other may not so thanks.
And there are no smart(and big, conservatives in the repubs party)

[J.Mencalice]

I'd be interested to see someone, anyone, tell us all why they'd vote for Trump. Not judging, just curious.

Because of the danger of Hillary making multiple SCOTUS lifetime appointments.

That's about all I got.

The President can only make nominations to the court; it is the Senate that actually votes and makes the appointments.  So, if the Republicans hold on to the Senate majority vote, they'll control the process.  Currently there are seven seats that are classified as "toss-ups" for the 2016 election with a remaining 47/47 split.  Republicans true to their calling should concentrate on holding the Senate and write off Trump if they sincerely want to save the country for the continuation of their  Constitutional beliefs.  That's what the smart (and big, conservative) money is ultimately betting on behind the scenery.  Stay tuned.

Do you really think that the Repubs will hold the line on anything Hillary wants??
I have no faith in that happening, so no Hillary first, then the poor repubs have to find another way to fold.
And yes I understand how it works but other may not so thanks.
And there are no smart(and big, conservatives in the repubs party)

Here in Colorado, tough guy Rep. Mike Coffman didn't have the sack to take on Sen. Michael Bennet in what could have been a great senatorial slug-fest, but wimped out.  Bennet will win probably 70-30% over his opponent that the GOP didn't even see fit to give a decent time to present his speech at the GOP convention and money to conduct a respectable campaign.  Darryl Glenn is pretty much invisible across the State as a sacrificial lamb for the Republicans.  So, the only party that can complain about the Supreme Court appointees under Clinton (if they lose the Senate) is the one staring back at themselves in November.  Giving up without a fight in what was a solidly conservative state until 2000?  Colorado Republicans are being picked off little by little, with only one heavily populated area (Colorado Springs) making a difference at the voting booth.  If he were still with us, my father-in-law (a great GOP legislator for Colorado) would be ashamed of their weak-assed attempt.    I would have loved to have had the opportunity to discuss this election cycle with him.  He was the most respectful opponent to my political views that I have ever known, and I to his.  I truly miss his vision for moving our state forward and his counsel on such matters in the national arena.

Can you imagine what would be happening now if the Republicans had an actual candidate instead of the clown show called Trump?  No chance for Clinton.   It would be 55-45% against her in the end.

My prediction still is that "The Great White Hope" loses by 12-17% on November 8th.  Also, without the Senate (hypothetically), Republicans are toast for a minimum of the following 12 years (or until all their Justices either succumb or resign).

Sorry for the bad news but get over it beforehand.  It is solely up to it's members to try and retake the Republican Party and make it into something respectable again from the cult that has hijacked it.  

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"-Jesus or Lincoln...take your pick.

[Gavin_Sons]

http://www.snopes.com/clinton-byrd-photo-klan/

Now who is acting badly as always. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

http://www.snopes.com/clinton-byrd-photo-klan/

Now who is acting badly as always. 

Did you even read the article you linked ?



"First of all, Trump declined to condemn Duke and the Ku Klux Klan in February 2016, making the story current and newsworthy, whilephotograph of Hillary Clinton was taken more than a decade ago. The lack of current coverage isn't because the print media are ignoring the association, but because the photograph is a several-year-old story.

Second, while David Duke is no longer a member of the Ku Klux Klan, he is still an active member of another white supremacist organization, NAAWP: the National Association for the Advancement of White People. Duke, a prominent Holocaust denier (although he describes himself as a "Holocaust exposer"), also has a more-than-passing interest in politics: the former member of the Louisiana House of Representatives has run for the U.S. Senate, governor of Louisiana, and President of the United States. Duke has spent his life founding and supporting various white nationalist and white supremacist groups, while Byrd, by contrast, spent the majority of his life publicly disavowing and repeatedly apologizing for hisearly KKK affiliation."

[Gavin_Sons]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/01/donald-trump-and-david-duke-for-the-record/

[Pappy!]

Baldo, I am curious as to why you get so much enjoyment from this. Do you go around seeing how many sticks you can stick in spokes?

No, I wouldn't call it enjoyment. It's more like trying to rebut the endless attacks on Obama for how many years , and now Clinton. As a greatly outnumbered liberal on this board, I feel it's almost my duty to remind you guys just how batshit crazy this crap can be. I've never been one to just sit in the corner like a little church mouse, afraid to voice my opinion. And of course I know it ruffles some feathers, but that's the way it goes. I ignore most of what I read here, only responding to a small fraction. I wish I had a buck for every time someone slams a Democrat. A buck every time a lefty is called immoral and idiotic. Another buck for countless other slams. And you guys get all hot and bothered about the few things I post.

Sounds like a pretty healthy attitude to me. 

No, it really doesn't, meathead.  Healthy is the many, many of us who don't bother to participate in the divisive or bashing discussions or perhaps less so but still moderately healthy are those of us who only get involved after the discussion is underway to contradict what we see as batshit crazy.  Those who originate those threads are only involving themselves in the further diminishing of the VRCC message board.

The VRCC general message board is these days losing a long term fight for its life.  There are two enemies.  One is the increased activity on Facebook.  We can't do anything about that piece.  The other is the constant barrage of belittling or demeaning politically oriented threads.  There's some disagreement as to how much each of those is contributing to the ultimate demise of the community.  In my personal opinion they are both significant.

My personal preference would be that if one hates members of the VRCC so much that one feels the need to get on the community message board to bash and belittle what other members support then the community would be better off if that one just moved on.  That applies to people on both ends of the political spectrum. 

Incidentally, so we don't get this out of proportion, the originating of divisive, belittling political threads is basically something around a half dozen or a few more posters.       

While those are both valid points I would add the overall age of our beloved motorcycles plays a part (have seen the slow death on the Magna Forum as well) as well as the overall age of our membership. We  are dwindling as well. At least this part of the forum is active!

[Pete]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/01/donald-trump-and-david-duke-for-the-record/

For some reason that is not strong enough or often enough for some to believe.
Maybe it is because it is not what they want to hear.

Thanks for posting.

[Gavin_Sons]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/01/donald-trump-and-david-duke-for-the-record/

For some reason that is not strong enough or often enough for some to believe.
Maybe it is because it is not what they want to hear.

Thanks for posting.

Rose colored glasses!

[BradValk48237]

OK... I throw some gas on the fire

I will be voting for Mrs Clinton... definitely not Mr Trump....

Both are liars..... Mr Trump even more so,  but his lies are so off the cuff, and poorly done, most of the time and very easily refuted.. sample... The NFL call.. The Chicago call, etc.. he just makes things up....

But ALL politicians are liars.... thats how they get elected.... Mr Obama is actually one of the few presidents who has accomplished some of the planks/promises of his platform- Getting troops out on the timeline set up by Bush, Universal Healthcare fro example...  most of the Presidents prior accomplished none of their campaign promises....

Im voting for Mrs Clinton, because she is A GREAT Liar!  Millions of dollars have been spent to pin her down on Bengazi, Emails, Foundatiions, Hell supposedly stealing furniture from the Whitehouse... But what do you know...nothing to send her to a Grand Jury.. nothing proven to indite... usually you have to show someone is lying by catching them in an untruth.. so far not really....

And the funny thing is, She's still the smartest candidate that i have to choose from.. smart enough to make millions from the choices she has made, one of the first ones was to marry Mr Clinton

Yea, Mr Trump is a supposed Billionaire (but he won't give any concrete info, including tax returns), but he started with His fathers  money, business and connections, made more by screwing a lot of people... yea Business is Business, but there are many people in the financial world that won't work with him, much of the debt he carries is with foreign banks. He does not donate to charity.. that is a fact, and he is mainly concerned for himself...

Lastly because for the policies and issues he is "Trumpeting" he has no plan for, no support for, and no way to pay for them. Most experts agree his tax plan will increase the deficit and lower overall taxes for the rich and be neutral for the middle class.... He says a lot of nothing..... read some of the transcripts of his speeches... They don't read like an adult.....

Also because what works for Mr Trump in the isolated business world of New York and real estate will not work in the Diplomatic and political systems that is in the world today.... He lives in a pampered insulated bubble... He speaks like a barely educated 6th grader... the man is not as smart as he thinks he is. It has been shown that if he would have just taken the money he got from his father and invested it in minimum risk stocks he would be worth about the same....

The last time the budget was Balance was when Slick Wille was in office ( yes the repubs pushed him,but it got done), yes he got a B'jer in the oval office, but still kept his job.... Thats a man who can get things done

So on the basis of who's the smartest and has plans and policies that will at least keep the government status quo and more than likely lower or eliminate the budget deficit ( and yes under Obama the deficit has been lowered to the best it has been in 20 years, even with a war we shouldn't be in, without which there would possibly be smaller or no deficit), not change taxes for the middle class or possibly better them I will be voting for Hillary...

Lastly, If you were a smart, intelligent business man, would you hire someone to be the president of your company that has NO experience in your business????? Business and Politics are completely different animals and in most cases a business man goes into government its not good.... Would you hire a guy to run a McDonalds if he hasn't even learned to use the fryer?

Mr Trump wouldn't.....

There I laid out a cognitive reason WITHOUT trash talk or insults... I could go on and site chapter and verse, but it comes down to Mrs Clinton is the best choice of the 2.... because she may be the better liar...LOL

SO now prove Mr Trump is the one I should vote for...

B

[The emperor has no clothes]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/01/donald-trump-and-david-duke-for-the-record/

For some reason that is not strong enough or often enough for some to believe.
Maybe it is because it is not what they want to hear.

Thanks for posting.

Rose colored glasses!

Do you guys not see the hypocrisy and irony in that he made all those statements about David Duke over the years, and then he says he doesn't know anything about him ?