Haiti and shitholes countries: yet another from Trump

[f6john]

Let’s look a two island nations, Haiti and Hawaii. I know Hawaii is a state but was not always so. Can anyone tell me which place you would most like to spend your next vacation? Ok, Ok I know that’s racist. Let’s assume your black/dark brown skinned, where would you want to spend your next vacation? am I getting anywhere with this analogy? Ok, Ok let’s say you don’t like either destination, how about a week on the south side of Chicago?

IMHO a better comparison is Haiti and The Dominican Republic.

Same island.
Same people.

One is a shithole.
The other is a vacation destination.

Refugees don't generally come from vacation destinations. Are you saying we shouldn't let in any refugees of war, natural disasters, etc. ?

To further clarify, refugees generally come from shitholes. Doesn’t make them shitholes themselves but Dems have a problem making that distinction.

Another point I wanted to make is remove the people and what do you have? Basically two beautiful islands.

[DirtyDan]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368937-shithole-projected-onto-trump-hotel

while on the subject

dan

[Serk]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368937-shithole-projected-onto-trump-hotel

while on the subject

dan

[Bighead]

Just spreading love Serk 

[Randy from Burbank]

Bet you wont see this in the MSM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5lcART6TTE

[Hooter]

Don't think you would today! That if I read it right took place in 98, old stuff.  The speaker himself is one of the biggest racial baiters in the entire country.

[Alpha Dog]

Gee Randy did you not get the memo?  He became a racist the moment he ran for president as a Republican.    He became a big racist the moment he beat the progressives and will remain so.  You just have to get into their mindset.  Good luck  ( or maybe not so good luck ) with that endeavor.

[Gavin_Sons]

Yep, huge racist. 

I think liberals don't really know what a racist is. They are coming up with their own definitions to fit their agenda.

Only 1 person has came out and said Trump said "shithole" everyone else in the room says they did not hear that. But the Liberals are running with the word of 1 single man who by the way has been caught in lies before.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Yep, huge racist. 

I think liberals don't really know what a racist is. They are coming up with their own definitions to fit their agenda.

Only 1 person has came out and said Trump said "shithole" everyone else in the room says they did not hear that. But the Liberals are running with the word of 1 single man who by the way has been caught in lies before.

You might want to research that a little more. 

[f6john]

I have had a little time to think about this and I have come to a conclusion. Senator Durbin has no balls. He was sitting right next to Trump and if he heard Trump say something that was so terrible that he had to go running to the media to further stir the pot, why didn’t he confront Trump right then and there and make everyone in the room aware of what he heard? I have concluded that Durbin is a bitchass punk, who probably had to run to mommie Pelosi and daddie Schumer to see if it was a good idea to run it up the media flagpole.

[..]

Let’s look a two island nations, Haiti and Hawaii. I know Hawaii is a state but was not always so. Can anyone tell me which place you would most like to spend your next vacation? Ok, Ok I know that’s racist. Let’s assume your black/dark brown skinned, where would you want to spend your next vacation? am I getting anywhere with this analogy? Ok, Ok let’s say you don’t like either destination, how about a week on the south side of Chicago?

IMHO a better comparison is Haiti and The Dominican Republic.

Same island.
Same people.

One is a shithole.
The other is a vacation destination.

Refugees don't generally come from vacation destinations. Are you saying we shouldn't let in any refugees of war, natural disasters, etc. ?

To further clarify, refugees generally come from shitholes. Doesn’t make them shitholes themselves but Dems have a problem making that distinction.

Another point I wanted to make is remove the people and what do you have? Basically two beautiful islands.

Be careful.

You'll note that you were answered with a reply that included the word "refugees".

This wasn't used by you NOR was it supposedly used in the meeting with Trump.

Distraction is a well used dem/left/prog tool.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Let’s look a two island nations, Haiti and Hawaii. I know Hawaii is a state but was not always so. Can anyone tell me which place you would most like to spend your next vacation? Ok, Ok I know that’s racist. Let’s assume your black/dark brown skinned, where would you want to spend your next vacation? am I getting anywhere with this analogy? Ok, Ok let’s say you don’t like either destination, how about a week on the south side of Chicago?

IMHO a better comparison is Haiti and The Dominican Republic.

Same island.
Same people.

One is a shithole.
The other is a vacation destination.

Refugees don't generally come from vacation destinations. Are you saying we shouldn't let in any refugees of war, natural disasters, etc. ?

To further clarify, refugees generally come from shitholes. Doesn’t make them shitholes themselves but Dems have a problem making that distinction.

Another point I wanted to make is remove the people and what do you have? Basically two beautiful islands.

Be careful.

You'll note that you were answered with a reply that included the word "refugees".

This wasn't used by you NOR was it supposedly used in the meeting with Trump.

Distraction is a well used dem/left/prog tool.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/jan/12/donald-trumps-s-hole-countries-remarks-and-its-pol/
You are welcome 

[The emperor has no clothes]

I have had a little time to think about this and I have come to a conclusion. Senator Durbin has no balls. He was sitting right next to Trump and if he heard Trump say something that was so terrible that he had to go running to the media to further stir the pot, why didn’t he confront Trump right then and there and make everyone in the room aware of what he heard? I have concluded that Durbin is a bitchass punk, who probably had to run to mommie Pelosi and daddie Schumer to see if it was a good idea to run it up the media flagpole.

Maybe because the Republican Senator Lindsay Graham beat him to it ?

[baldo]

I have had a little time to think about this and I have come to a conclusion. Senator Durbin has no balls. He was sitting right next to Trump and if he heard Trump say something that was so terrible that he had to go running to the media to further stir the pot, why didn’t he confront Trump right then and there and make everyone in the room aware of what he heard? I have concluded that Durbin is a bitchass punk, who probably had to run to mommie Pelosi and daddie Schumer to see if it was a good idea to run it up the media flagpole.

Maybe because the Republican Senator Lindsay Graham beat him to it ?

Exactly. Everyone seems to be missing (ignoring) the report that Durbin was CONFIRMING the report....not running to the media....

[MAD6Gun]

 The bottom line here is this. Weather president Trump said this or not is up for debate. Illinois senator Durbin says he heard him say it but several other said they didn't hear it. Bottom line. WHO CARES if Trump called Haiti a shithole. It is a shithole. Would you want to live there or even visit? I don't think so. Does this make the president a racist. Of course not. Did Durbin hear Trump say this about the Haitian people? Not that he's saying.  The Democrats never had a problem with Donald Trump when he was one of them. The video of Rev Jackson praising Trump is proof. BUT when he announced he was running for president as a rebuplican they all went nuts. Suddenly he's a sexist, rapist, homophob,racist and worst of all a NAZI. The list goes on. Give me a break.

  Give the man a chance.

[Wizzard]

The bottom line here is this. Weather president Trump said this or not is up for debate. Illinois senator Durbin says he heard him say it but several other said they didn't hear it. Bottom line. WHO CARES if Trump called Haiti a shithole. It is a shithole. Would you want to live there or even visit? I don't think so. Does this make the president a racist. Of course not. Did Durbin hear Trump say this about the Haitian people? Not that he's saying.  The Democrats never had a problem with Donald Trump when he was one of them. The video of Rev Jackson praising Trump is proof. BUT when he announced he was running for president as a rebuplican they all went nuts. Suddenly he's a sexist, rapist, homophob,racist and worst of all a NAZI. The list goes on. Give me a break.

  Give the man a chance.

You will not see that anytime soon from any Lib from what I have seen. I really disliked Obama but I respected him and gave him a chance. As to his cohorts,, they all say he had a foul mouth. Dropped the "F" bomb all the time. Whenever anyone around me does that , I lose all respect for them.

[Jess from VA]

Give the man a chance.

Except we plainly see, the whole point is to not give him a chance.... on anything, at anytime, anywhere.

Character assassination by full court press.

Desperation in action.

Definition of desperation. 1 : loss of hope and surrender to despair. 2 : a state of hopelessness leading to rashness,  the feeling of being in such a bad situation that you will take any risk to change it.

 

[Pete]

I have had a little time to think about this and I have come to a conclusion. Senator Durbin has no balls. He was sitting right next to Trump and if he heard Trump say something that was so terrible that he had to go running to the media to further stir the pot, why didn’t he confront Trump right then and there and make everyone in the room aware of what he heard? I have concluded that Durbin is a bitchass punk, who probably had to run to mommie Pelosi and daddie Schumer to see if it was a good idea to run it up the media flagpole.

Maybe because the Republican Senator Lindsay Graham beat him to it ?

Exactly. Everyone seems to be missing (ignoring) the report that Durbin was CONFIRMING the report....not running to the media....

Neither Graham nor Durbin have any moral ground or credibility to stand on. Especially since 2 other Senators did not hear any such words and the President denies it.

[¿spoom]

Chuck Schumer was on one of the late night DNC shows and said Trump could start his long road to proving he's not a racist by siding with the Democrats on the ill-named "dreamers". Makes sense, Trump should ignore the people that voted for him and do what the people who voter for Schumer want. He said the President likes to negotiate by saying, "do what I want or no deal" and he kept a perfectly straight face saying it. It's the same thing Obama did, telling the Republicans how he absolutely would not sign a budget that contained this or that, and we ended up going without a budget. This is what the Republicans cannot grasp-that they should lose all shame, decency, and truth, and simply tell the left to go f**k itself. In the words of a calm and most wise previous President, "elections have consequences". Trump will NEVER be OK with the left, and he may as well tell them to go pound sand until they can accept he's the President. Same for a lot of the Republicans who share the swamp. Remember when it would be the Republicans who would be blamed for a guvt. shutdown? The Dems are on track to do the same, but will still blame the Republicans. As was said to Joe McCarthy, "sir, have you no sense of decency?"

[¿spoom]

I don't care if he said it or not, whatever was said should have stayed in the room. Whatever, if he did, it was accurate and he can own it with more pride than what's coming out of Chuck & Nancy's mouths. Still waiting for Reid's apology for his chicken sh** saying Romney "paid no Federal Taxes" from the Senate floor where he was protected from the libel laws the rest of us little people have to live by. I'd have popped Reid's head like a grape. 

[Wizzard]

As Reagan said "it's not that they are not smart,, they know so much that just isn't so"

[Serk]

Except we plainly see, the whole point is to not give him a chance.... on anything, at anytime, anywhere.

As usual they're sticking to their playbook, Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. In this case specifically:

5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

And especially with regard to President Trump, rule 13:  “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I have had a little time to think about this and I have come to a conclusion. Senator Durbin has no balls. He was sitting right next to Trump and if he heard Trump say something that was so terrible that he had to go running to the media to further stir the pot, why didn’t he confront Trump right then and there and make everyone in the room aware of what he heard? I have concluded that Durbin is a bitchass punk, who probably had to run to mommie Pelosi and daddie Schumer to see if it was a good idea to run it up the media flagpole.

Maybe because the Republican Senator Lindsay Graham beat him to it ?

Exactly. Everyone seems to be missing (ignoring) the report that Durbin was CONFIRMING the report....not running to the media....

Neither Graham nor Durbin have any moral ground or credibility to stand on. Especially since 2 other Senators did not hear any such words and the President denies it.

Do you not find it odd that the day after it happened neither of the 2 could recall him using that word. Then 2 days later their memory improves to the point of saying he didn’t say that or may have said “shithouse” ? Don’t you find it odd that Trumps friends are telling reporters that he called them to ask how his using the term shithole was playing with his base ? Why would Lindsay Graham who has been cozying up to Trump on his golf courses lie about the incident ? Maybe some are too blind to see ?

[Wizzard]

I am not blind to see it. Fact is I do not care if he said it. He said what most are thinking. I care more about what a president does than what they say.

Obama said some things just like it, and I did not care about that either, so I am an equal opportunity offender. 

[Robert]

Why is it any better to believe someone who leaked information at a private meeting rather than 2 that came out and stated he didn't say it.

Durban was the one that leaked it to the media.

Since Durban has already been proven to be a liar we go on to number two?

Is your glass half empty or half full?

Serk good quotes

[Serk]

Funny, when liberal RINO senator Lindsey Graham referred to Mexico and places south of our border as "hellholes" no one batted an eye...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyJU_ZsFCuY

(Ironically, then supposedly ultra racist Jeff Sessions defends Mexico and says it's not a "hellhole")

[phideux]

Let’s look a two island nations, Haiti and Hawaii. I know Hawaii is a state but was not always so. Can anyone tell me which place you would most like to spend your next vacation? Ok, Ok I know that’s racist. Let’s assume your black/dark brown skinned, where would you want to spend your next vacation? am I getting anywhere with this analogy? Ok, Ok let’s say you don’t like either destination, how about a week on the south side of Chicago?

IMHO a better comparison is Haiti and The Dominican Republic.

Same island.
Same people.

One is a shithole.
The other is a vacation destination.

Refugees don't generally come from vacation destinations. Are you saying we shouldn't let in any refugees of war, natural disasters, etc. ?

We shouldn't let them in, maybe the UN should step in, in the case of war/Natural Disasters/whatever, and help them rebuild their place. Isn't the UN supposed to be uniting "all" the nations to help in situations like this???
How about we send all our refugees from the wildfires in California to Haiti, maybe they can put them up, house them, fed them, give them some Medicaid and food stamps.

[Pete]

I have had a little time to think about this and I have come to a conclusion. Senator Durbin has no balls. He was sitting right next to Trump and if he heard Trump say something that was so terrible that he had to go running to the media to further stir the pot, why didn’t he confront Trump right then and there and make everyone in the room aware of what he heard? I have concluded that Durbin is a bitchass punk, who probably had to run to mommie Pelosi and daddie Schumer to see if it was a good idea to run it up the media flagpole.

Maybe because the Republican Senator Lindsay Graham beat him to it ?

Exactly. Everyone seems to be missing (ignoring) the report that Durbin was CONFIRMING the report....not running to the media....

Neither Graham nor Durbin have any moral ground or credibility to stand on. Especially since 2 other Senators did not hear any such words and the President denies it.

Do you not find it odd that the day after it happened neither of the 2 could recall him using that word. Then 2 days later their memory improves to the point of saying he didn’t say that or may have said “shithouse” ? Don’t you find it odd that Trumps friends are telling reporters that he called them to ask how his using the term shithole was playing with his base ? Why would Lindsay Graham who has been cozying up to Trump on his golf courses lie about the incident ? Maybe some are too blind to see ?

I find it odd that this is a news story at all, when there are MANY MANY MANY things more important needing attention. This is a flea on a very large animal's ass. I find it odd that you think this is important period. I sure as hell do not.

[Jess from VA]

The simple truth is if we do the purely Christian (or insert your own word here) thing, and take in all refugees and immigrants who want to come here, and legalize all or most illegals already here, and open them to all available Govt free money and benefits (and voting as they qualify for citizenship, if that's still a requirement) we would at some point simply be..... another shithole too (a clear majority Democrat shithole too).  And a 70% tax rate to fund it all, from those who still work for a living.

Not only no, but hell no.  

That is no way to run a country.



 

[The emperor has no clothes]

The simple truth is if we do the purely Christian (or insert your own word here) thing, and take in all refugees and immigrants who want to come here, and legalize all or most illegals already here, and open them to all available Govt free money and benefits (and voting as they qualify for citizenship, if that's still a requirement) we would at some point simply be..... another shithole too (a clear majority Democrat shithole too).  And a 70% tax rate to fund it all, from those who still work for a living.

Not only no, but hell no.  

That is no way to run a country.



 

”In return for allowing Dreamers to stay, Trump wants to eliminate a diversity visa lottery program that allows in 50,000 immigrants per year from countries with low levels of immigration to the United States. Many Africans come to the United States through this program.”

50,000 a year maximum is hardly unlimited.

[Savago]

@meathead: just let it go, brother...

[Jess from VA]

50K a year is outrageous. 

[Chrisj CMA]

50K a year is outrageous. 

And......just because 50K is the "limit" doesn't mean more than that arent actually brought in.  Well I guess, unless you just trust the government.

[Serk]

50,000 a year maximum is hardly unlimited.

Unless the chain migration scam is stopped, yeah, it pretty much is unlimited...

[f6john]

I have had a little time to think about this and I have come to a conclusion. Senator Durbin has no balls. He was sitting right next to Trump and if he heard Trump say something that was so terrible that he had to go running to the media to further stir the pot, why didn’t he confront Trump right then and there and make everyone in the room aware of what he heard? I have concluded that Durbin is a bitchass punk, who probably had to run to mommie Pelosi and daddie Schumer to see if it was a good idea to run it up the media flagpole.

Maybe because the Republican Senator Lindsay Graham beat him to it ?

Exactly. Everyone seems to be missing (ignoring) the report that Durbin was CONFIRMING the report....not running to the media....

If the shoe fits wear it, I’m an equal opportunity accuser. A punk is a punk no matter the affiliation.

[MAD6Gun]

The simple truth is if we do the purely Christian (or insert your own word here) thing, and take in all refugees and immigrants who want to come here, and legalize all or most illegals already here, and open them to all available Govt free money and benefits (and voting as they qualify for citizenship, if that's still a requirement) we would at some point simply be..... another shithole too (a clear majority Democrat shithole too).  And a 70% tax rate to fund it all, from those who still work for a living.

Not only no, but hell no.  

That is no way to run a country.



 

”In return for allowing Dreamers to stay, Trump wants to eliminate a diversity visa lottery program that allows in 50,000 immigrants per year from countries with low levels of immigration to the United States. Many Africans come to the United States through this program.”

50,000 a year maximum is hardly unlimited.

 So you are OK with a lottery to bring in immigrants? You ok with chain migration too?  You do realize that both terrorists recently in NY came in that way. One by lottery the other with relatives by chain migration. I have a big problem with that. Whoever came up with both of these programs is a absolute freeking moron. I know youy next comment. There are not all bad. OK lets say I give you a bag of 1000 M&Ms and told you one was poisoned. Would take a big handful and pop them in your mouth?  That is exactly what is happening. Most are good buts it's the bad ones that make headlines.

  I have no problem with someone wanting to come here for a better life but they have to do it legally. How do you think a person that came here legally with the proper paperwork feels about someone else just walking across the boarder and is allowed to stay?

[..]

I have had a little time to think about this and I have come to a conclusion. Senator Durbin has no balls. He was sitting right next to Trump and if he heard Trump say something that was so terrible that he had to go running to the media to further stir the pot, why didn’t he confront Trump right then and there and make everyone in the room aware of what he heard? I have concluded that Durbin is a bitchass punk, who probably had to run to mommie Pelosi and daddie Schumer to see if it was a good idea to run it up the media flagpole.

Maybe because the Republican Senator Lindsay Graham beat him to it ?

Exactly. Everyone seems to be missing (ignoring) the report that Durbin was CONFIRMING the report....not running to the media....

So you are saying that Durbin confirmed his report that he reported that Trump supposedly said shithole?

Well that clears everything up then.

[G-Man]

She didn't lose the election. ...

She did lose the election.  The president of the United States is elected by the Electoral College, not simply by a hand full of intensely populated locals of the nation.

Anything more that I would say in response would violate the Rules of the Road.  I choose to not do so.

Many on the left don't like that there is more than one way to win an election, or anything.  In poker, the person who plays the best hand wins, not the person with the best cards.  Trump played the best hand.  He knew he wasn't gonna get NY, IL, CA, WA, etc, so he didn't go there.  We went EVERYWHERE else to get those electoral votes.  He played the game and won.

The BIGGEST problem is that we have a media that is biased and exploits anything and everything he may or may have not said.  And regardless of whether he said it or not, doesn't matter once the accusation is made.  The opposition media slams it for 5 days until it's their truth.  We've seen time after time, for over a year, the "breaking news stories" falling by the wayside never to become anything. But the incident, though proven false, just becomes another layer in their I hate Trump cake.

[G-Man]

I think liberals don't really know what a racist is. They are coming up with their own definitions to fit their agenda.

This is VERY true.

For example, I read a definition of racism that include the premise that it is aimed from one entity towards another when the first entity is in a position of power, or authority, or oppresses the second entity.

THEREFORE........... Minorities can't be racist, only whites can be racist.

They manipulate language and context continually.  It's how they justify Black Lives Matter and White Privilege. 

[RP#62]

Hearing folks from the party of Robert Byrd calling well, anyone racist is rich.

-RP