children dying senselessly at the hands of madmen should never happen

[The emperor has no clothes]

Don’t ask me verse I don’t know

“Blessed is he who gives hospitality to strangers for he has sometimes entertained angels unaware”

Hebrews 13:2

the agnostic comes thru. 

[Serk]

Don’t ask me verse I don’t know

“Blessed is he who gives hospitality to strangers for he has sometimes entertained angels unaware”

Hebrews 13:2

the agnostic comes thru. 

Unlike many Christians I've met (I'm sure this doesn't apply to any here, seriously, if you think I'm talking about you here, I'm not) I've read The Bible...

...and the Quran. And The Teachings of the Buddha... And the Satanic Bible... And all kinds of other spiritual and religious texts. I had a "seeking" phase as a young adult trying to find anything that "spoke" to me.

(Way off topic here, but heck, when a religious discussion can be more civil than a political one, we definitely are living in interesting times...)

[Robert]

Serk dont read ask

Luk 11:9  "So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
Luk 11:10  "For everyone who asks, receives; and he who seeks, finds; and to him who knocks, it will be opened.

Life as I knew it stopped and said to myself, I want to find out who this God really is. So I read my bible 2 times through, I thought interesting stories but there must be more. Then on the third time it started to speak to me and I understood with revelations and insights that I had never seen before.

Funny you mention the Quran, I read it and thought why would this book refer to the Bible as the book so many times and refer back to the Bible in so many situations. I had to question myself why read a book that references another book why just not read the original?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Don’t ask me verse I don’t know

“Blessed is he who gives hospitality to strangers for he has sometimes entertained angels unaware”

Hebrews 13:2

the agnostic comes thru. 

Unlike many Christians I've met (I'm sure this doesn't apply to any here, seriously, if you think I'm talking about you here, I'm not) I've read The Bible...

...and the Quran. And The Teachings of the Buddha... And the Satanic Bible... And all kinds of other spiritual and religious texts. I had a "seeking" phase as a young adult trying to find anything that "spoke" to me.

(Way off topic here, but heck, when a religious discussion can be more civil than a political one, we definitely are living in interesting times...)

I can relate. My parents were not religious at all. I don't know if my Dad ever stepped foot in a church. My Mom took us to church maybe a dozen times, mostly out of guilt. When I was about 16 I had an experience that made me know there was a God. A friends mom gave me a Bible and I read it cover to cover. Don't know if I really understood it all though. A few years later became friends with some Mormons and read their book also. Have no experience with the Koran, Buddha. Didn't even know there was a Satanic Bible.  ??? Although, when people ask me what religion I am I like to mess with them and tell them I'm a Satan Worshipper. (A lot of Christians don't find it humorous at all)

[Robert]

 Student School Massacre Survivors and CBS Reporter Party Like Rock Stars
by Kristinn Taylor 310 Comments
   
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/photos-student-school-massacre-survivors-cbs-reporter-party-like-rock-stars/

Shocking photos posted to Twitter of a CBS News reporter and students who survived last Wednesday’s high school massacre in Parkland, Florida that killed seventeen students and faculty, show the reporter and students laughing uproariously and posing for the photos like they are partying rock stars.

The photos featuring CBS reporter Gisela Perez and the students were posted by CBS This Morning staffer Caroline West and student activist Cameron Kasky. The photos come off as if they were promo stills for Glee: The High School Massacre.

UPDATE:

Following the publication of the TGP article, CBS’s Caroline West deleted the tweet with the photo.

    I took down an earlier tweet that some felt was in poor taste. I apologize to anyone offended by it.

    — Caroline West (@LindseyCWest) February 20, 2018

These photos were taken over the weekend on the set of an interview taped for broadcast Monday morning. This means the students were only three or four days out from surviving a massacre in their school.

Student activist Kasky mentions the students have “practiced” in a reply to someone concerned they will be taken advantage of by President Trump, “We’re not afraid of people trying to exploit us. We’ve practiced. We know their slimy tactics. Thankfully, most news networks we’ve worked with are interested in telling the right stories. I am eternally grateful for that. Keep an eye out. Thank you”

I just want to thank @justinbieber for being so kind to our movement since last night. He and I had some trouble because my third grade girlfriend was much more interested in him than she was in me, but he and I have gotten over that. We have each other.

[Robert]

So the shooter walked on campus, through gates which had to be manually opened by someone, with his rifle in a full-sized black case, even though he was known to authorities as a potential shooter to the point he was banned from carrying so much as a backpack on campus. Nobody looked twice at a black AR-15 case in the hands of this character. He didn’t worry about someone seeing it. He calmly walked inside, took out the rifle unmolested, loaded it, and began shooting.

The shooter knew school procedures enough that he knew to pull the fire alarm to override a Code Red and unlock the doors, and the one cop with a gun who was the only armed man capable of stopping a shooter just happened to not be on school grounds that particular day, which allowed the shooter to never encounter him. The shooter shot for five minutes, then just laid his gun down, calmly walked out of the school, walked to a Subway and bought a soda, walked to a McDonalds and sat for a while, and then walked down the street aimlessly.

When encountered by Police, he immediately obeyed commands, and when officers touched him to pat him down, he went into a semi-conscious state, requiring him to be taken to the hospital, where he fully recovered in minutes.

From another source and not about this incident:

Author's Note: I have found that these events have indeed happened all over
the country. In every instance that I have investigated — the incident at the
women's school in Canada, the shopping center incident in Canada, the Stockton,
California, massacre, and the murder of Rabbi Meir Kahane — the
shooters were all ex-mental patients or were current mental patients who were
ALL ON THE DRUG PROZAC! This drug, when taken in certain doses,
increases the serotonin level in the patient, causing extreme violence.

[Ramie]

I like Matt Walsh's take on it. 

It's the way things are now so let's do something about.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27205/walsh-its-time-put-armed-security-every-public-matt-walsh

[MAD6Gun]

 I heard he took a Uber to the school. I drive for Uber part time to earn a little extra money. If some one got into my Uber with a gun case and wanted to go to a school a BIG red flag would go off.  I would do my best to get a cops attention.  Was this driver just blind or just didn't care. So many people dropped the ball on this fiasco. If the FBI had done their job,or the school,ect 17 people would be alive today. Everyone failed.

[Robert]

Amid all the hysteria over gun control in the wake of yet another school shooting, a school in New Mexico is not likely to be the next target.

…because everyone’s packing heat!

Well, maybe not everyone, but many teachers at the parochial school carry firearms, as does the principle and head of security, according to Inside Edition.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/02/19/schools-not-likely-next-target-good-guys-packing-heat-works-604483

By a show of hands, student’s in a classroom at the school were asked if they feel safer knowing their teacher was carrying a gun. Every hand in the room went up, as seen in the video.

The new policy for churches is for at least one person to carry or to have police protection so why not at schools?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Reports are a black duffel bag and a backpack .

[3fan4life]

I heard he took a Uber to the school. I drive for Uber part time to earn a little extra money. If some one got into my Uber with a gun case and wanted to go to a school a BIG red flag would go off.  I would do my best to get a cops attention.  Was this driver just blind or just didn't care. So many people dropped the ball on this fiasco. If the FBI had done their job,or the school,ect 17 people would be alive today. Everyone failed.

EXACTLY!!!!

Yet the Liberal Mantra is, Blame the gun, Blame the gun, Blame the gun.

[Jess from VA]

School security mascots.   

[..]

The frickin ARMED security guard DID  nothing. NOTHING. 

Coward. Just stood and did NOTHING.

[Serk]

The frickin ARMED security guard DID  nothing. NOTHING. 

Coward. Just stood and did NOTHING.

We don't need to allow teachers and school staff to be armed, that's what cops are for!

...oh wait... 

[Pappy!]

Couple thoughts on this.
I remember when the "spare the rod and spoil the child" era started. It seems to me to be the start of the decline of our society......to an extent....although it took a few generations to get there or here.
I can remember when High School parking lots had bunches of pick-up trucks in them with a rifle and a shotgun proudly displayed in the rear windows on racks. Kids hunted after school. Arguments were settled with a plain old fist fight, not guns. Parents raised their kids, the school did not.

[f6gal]

The frickin ARMED security guard DID  nothing. NOTHING. 

Coward. Just stood and did NOTHING.

Security guard, my ass, he was a deputy sheriff.  Unfreakingbelievable.  Resigned/retired when it came out.  What a POS. 

[Jess from VA]

The surveillance video, which was not released, showed Deputy Peterson remained outside the west side of the building for at least four minutes while the gunman was inside, according to Sheriff Israel. The shooting rampage at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School lasted less than six minutes.

How many shots do you suppose were made in that four minutes?  How many of the 17 dead and additional wounded?  

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/22/us/nikolas-cruz-florida-shooting.html

Samantha Fuentes, an 18-year-old senior at Stoneman Douglas High who was shot in both legs, said she never saw Deputy Peterson during the “30 minutes” that passed before SWAT officers arrived at the first-floor classroom in which she and other students had been taking a class.

When they arrived, Cruz was long gone, but they didn't know it (and they had to clear the whole building).  So after Peterson entered the building at 4 minutes, Cruz shot for 2 more minutes, but Peterson never closed with him, or even saw him for two more minutes, or saw him walk out of the school?   (one might wonder if he even went to anyone's aid, since he wasn't busy with Cruz) (But the front door was well protected)

Cowardice in the face of the enemy.   (Art 99, UCMJ, Maximum punishment -  Death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.)

Early retirement hardly seems a sufficient punishment reward for his behavior.  If he was paid out of the school budget, they should sue for their money back.

Putting (or leaving) your retired on active duty guy on the school detail also seems to have been a very bad decision.  (Peterson had 32 years)

EDIT: So now it seems Peterson never went in the building at all

[old2soon]

I've talked with my Minister at the Church I attend and I KNOW there are designated armed security folks at each service if you will-shooters. I also KNOW our School(s) here in Willow Springs have a L E O from the local force inside the School whenever School is in session. The main entrance to the School has a closed circuit T V and a remotely activated lock to let people in-or not. Is Security ENOUGH at My Church and at our Local School(s)? I PRAY I never need to find out. BUT if it is Ever tested-active shooter-I PRAY those Armed Security folks shoot Straight and True. Far too many balls dropped on this most recent School MASSACRE. Far as peterson goes is drawing and quartering still an option these days? At the very least he should NOT EVER draw his pension or social security if that's an option fer him. Course we will NEVER know but had he done his job how many would have been saved? Do the L E Os have a brig run by Marines? RIDE SAFE.

[3fan4life]

Like a Firefighter that is afraid of fire.

A police officer that isn't willing to risk his life when necessary is as worthless as "Tits on a Boar Hog".

[Serk]

(This is NOT a slam against LEOs in general, I know the vast majority would have gone running in there willingly sacrificing their own lives to stop this asshole, just pointing out that we all need to be our own first responders.)

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

Like the Los Vegas shooting, there is a lot here that doesn't add up.

A news story I read this morning said the SRO (school resource officer?) stayed outside and radioed in a description of the killer. How could he give a description without going in? Did he just guess who the shooter was?

Why wasn't the shooter entered into the nics system after all his run-ins with the law?

According to Mueller's investigation, the Russian's goal was to cause division in our country. Nothing divides our country more than the gun control issue. Nothing would further our enemy’s goals more than convincing our citizens to disarm. Remember, American citizens are the largest armed group on the planet.

Could a foreign government or a group of them, with millions of dollars and intelligence networks at their disposal engineer some or all of these shootings while counting on copycats to carry out more?

Wouldn't it be prudent after Mueller’s investigation proved some or all of the window breaking anti-Trump riots were fueled by Russians posing as Americans to assume they are, at least partially, behind the new, militant anti-gun push? And possibly some of the shootings also?

I think we are being duped in one way or another. I also think the next time we catch one of these mass murders we should declare them an “enemy combatant” and send them to Gitmo to be interviewed by the professionals. Maybe then we’ll get to the bottom of it.

[RP#62]

Like the Los Vegas shooting, there is a lot here that doesn't add up.

A news story I read this morning said the SRO (school resource officer?) stayed outside and radioed in a description of the killer. How could he give a description without going in? Did he just guess who the shooter was?

Why wasn't the shooter entered into the nics system after all his run-ins with the law?

According to Mueller's investigation, the Russian's goal was to cause division in our country. Nothing divides our country more than the gun control issue. Nothing would further our enemy’s goals more than convincing our citizens to disarm. Remember, American citizens are the largest armed group on the planet.

Could a foreign government or a group of them, with millions of dollars and intelligence networks at their disposal engineer some or all of these shootings while counting on copycats to carry out more?

Wouldn't it be prudent after Mueller’s investigation proved some or all of the window breaking anti-Trump riots were fueled by Russians posing as Americans to assume they are, at least partially, behind the new, militant anti-gun push? And possibly some of the shootings also?

I think we are being duped in one way or another. I also think the next time we catch one of these mass murders we should declare them an “enemy combatant” and send them to Gitmo to be interviewed by the professionals. Maybe then we’ll get to the bottom of it.

I don't know about the Russians but it wouldn't surprise me if CNN had a plan and a go team ready to exploit the next tragedy.  Peer pressure being what it is at that age, all they'd have to do is get to a couple of kids and they could start a movement that would be great for ratings and help further their agenda.  Maybe I'm just cynical.

-RP

[Robert]

Student Claims CNN Rewrote Town Hall Question, Told Him to 'Stick to the Script'

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/02/22/cnn-scripted-gun-violence-town-hall-debate-questions-says-florida-student-colton-haab


Cop who didn't enter school during Florida shooting resigns, has home guarded, is slammed as 'coward' by Trump

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/23/police-officers-guard-home-deputy-assigned-to-florida-hs-who-never-went-in-during-shooting-report.html

Reporters who attempted to approach the West Palm Beach home of ex-Broward County Sheriff's Office Deputy Scot Peterson were reportedly met with resistance from at least six police officers who were standing guard outside.


Ok so lets do a summary of this event

Time line is probably about 2 years in the first few posts

FBI by few tips knew by tips Cruz was a problem and didnt investigate

Sheriffs dept had over 20 tips this guy was a problem and didnt investigate

Cruz web page was telling of problems

Kids at school labeled him to be the most likely to shoot and kill

Cruz said he wants to be a school shooter

DR was seeing Cruz before events and many years before did prescribe drugs

Uber drops off Cruz and no one questions his back pack while entering knowing he was banned from haveing back packs and knew he was a problem and expelled from school

He knew how to open doors in a school closing situation

Cruz walks into school and begins shooting

Sheriff outside school does nothing for 4 minutes

Cruz walks out of school goes to McDonald's and walks around

This is only part but explain to me how gun control figures into this equation.

Tell me how the activists are not called vultures since none of this figures in their narratives

There is another post that condemns Trump for having a script

What a load of horse manure the whole thing and we as a country have lost our minds, at least on the left.


George Clooney’s Publicist Set Up Media Interviews With Parkland Shooting Kids
http://freebeacon.com/issues/george-clooneys-publicist-set-media-interviews-parkland-shooting-kids/

[Karen]

Not cynical, just realistic...

Like the Los Vegas shooting, there is a lot here that doesn't add up.

A news story I read this morning said the SRO (school resource officer?) stayed outside and radioed in a description of the killer. How could he give a description without going in? Did he just guess who the shooter was?

Why wasn't the shooter entered into the nics system after all his run-ins with the law?

According to Mueller's investigation, the Russian's goal was to cause division in our country. Nothing divides our country more than the gun control issue. Nothing would further our enemy’s goals more than convincing our citizens to disarm. Remember, American citizens are the largest armed group on the planet.

Could a foreign government or a group of them, with millions of dollars and intelligence networks at their disposal engineer some or all of these shootings while counting on copycats to carry out more?

Wouldn't it be prudent after Mueller’s investigation proved some or all of the window breaking anti-Trump riots were fueled by Russians posing as Americans to assume they are, at least partially, behind the new, militant anti-gun push? And possibly some of the shootings also?

I think we are being duped in one way or another. I also think the next time we catch one of these mass murders we should declare them an “enemy combatant” and send them to Gitmo to be interviewed by the professionals. Maybe then we’ll get to the bottom of it.

I don't know about the Russians but it wouldn't surprise me if CNN had a plan and a go team ready to exploit the next tragedy.  Peer pressure being what it is at that age, all they'd have to do is get to a couple of kids and they could start a movement that would be great for ratings and help further their agenda.  Maybe I'm just cynical.

-RP

[Serk]

And now the cop that didn't go in and confront the shooter is being guarded by armed guards...

I normally would make a silly joking quip about this situation, but even with my highly developed sense of gallows humor, I've got nothing but sadness.

http://www.businessinsider.com/parkland-shooting-officer-resigns-deputies-sent-to-protect-his-family-2018-2

[3fan4life]

And now the cop that didn't go in and confront the shooter is being guarded by armed guards...

I normally would make a silly joking quip about this situation, but even with my highly developed sense of gallows humor, I've got nothing but sadness.

http://www.businessinsider.com/parkland-shooting-officer-resigns-deputies-sent-to-protect-his-family-2018-2

Catch 22 here.

His family doesn't deserve to live in fear for their safety.

He on the other hand deserves to be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life.

I wonder how the Deputies that have been assigned to be his body guards truly feel about their assignment?

[old2soon]

Goin out on a limb here but others have already touched on this point. So thank you.

While I abhor the needless slaughter could in FACT darker forces be at work here for ends we can only guess at?

Far far too many questions and not near enough answers.

History has shown us there are demons in this world that would gladly sacrifice anything and anyone for their means.

Is This at all POSSIBLE given the questions and the things we Think we know?

Was what-80 years ago or so people were in FACT being herded into gas chambers and ovens for one persons dream/nightmare?

Is satan being loosed into our midst? Again-too many questions.

Are satans henchmen in Fact doing his biding?         And-YES-i realize people have been thinking we have been in the End Time for a few hundred years now.                   RIDE SAFE.

[northernvalk]

All of our schools are now buzz door entry only.... This is due to kidnapping in Canada but it also could prevent a shooting.

[Serk]

All of our schools are now buzz door entry only.... This is due to kidnapping in Canada but it also could prevent a shooting.

Not really, the gunman can just shoot the door open, or if it's a glass door/wall just shoot the glass out.

Or put his gun in a tuba case, smile and wave and most likely be buzzed in anyway.

It's all just security theater, designed to make people feel safe, since feelings are more important than facts these days... 

[Gavin_Sons]

All of our schools are now buzz door entry only.... This is due to kidnapping in Canada but it also could prevent a shooting.

the small Elementary school my son goes to is buzz in only. And they only have 98 kids from k-5

[Gavin_Sons]

All of our schools are now buzz door entry only.... This is due to kidnapping in Canada but it also could prevent a shooting.

Not really, the gunman can just shoot the door open, or if it's a glass door/wall just shoot the glass out.

Or put his gun in a tuba case, smile and wave and most likely be buzzed in anyway.

It's all just security theater, designed to make people feel safe, since feelings are more important than facts these days... 

Agreed. They only thing that stops a maniac with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Too bad that officer couldn't have been a good guy that day.

[Skinhead]

I'm Going to Kalamazoo this evening to visit my son and granddaughter, Emma is 8yo and in 3rd grade.  They last time I visited her, I picked her up at school (small town, small school) and had to be buzzed in.  My visit prior to that, I did not have to be buzzed in, the system wasn't even installed.  This prompted some discussion with school office workers while signing her out.  I spoke with the principle and asked him his position on arming teachers/administrators.  He was all for it if they were properly trained.  Need to get the board to approve it and state law changed now.

[Robert]

It goes from bad to worse for the Sheriffs when there wasn't just one that was there but 4 including the school gaurd sitting behind their cars and waiting. Police were also allowed to live on school property believing that it made the schools safer.

But the icing on the cake was the school sheriff did not help in the investigation of Cruz when the state asked for help.

At this point the I personally believe the loss of life could have been eliminated or limited if any of these had not dropped the ball or gone in to confront this shooter. Yet we will have stricter limits on guns as a supposed answer.





When Coral Springs police officers arrived at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14 in the midst of the school shooting crisis, many officers were surprised to find not only that Broward County Sheriff’s Deputy Scot Peterson, the armed school resource officer, had not entered the building, but that three other Broward County Sheriff’s deputies were also outside the school and had not entered, Coral Springs sources tell CNN. The deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles, the sources said, and not one of them had gone into the school.

Also more on the cop that was the school gaurd:

Scot Peterson, the 54-year-old Marjory Stoneman Douglas school resource officer who resigned after security footage revealed he made no effort to engage alleged mass killer Nikolas Cruz during the rampage last week, previously lobbied Broward County school officials to continue funding a program that allowed cops to live in mobile homes on school property rent-free.

Not only did Peterson fail to confront Cruz—he also failed to assist a previous investigation, undertaken by state authorities, to determine whether Cruz was a threat to himself or others. His mistakes compound the errors made by other law enforcement entities, including the FBI and Broward County PD.

The housing program was in effect at 32 different Broward County schools. Officials reasoned that cops living at the schools would mean 24-hour security. But a 2015 audit determined that the program was a waste of money.

School Resource Officer Who Failed to Confront Mass Shooter Previously Defended Cops Living at School Rent-Free
https://reason.com/blog/2018/02/23/school-resource-officer-scot-peterson-pa

BREAKING: CNN Reports FOUR Broward County Deputies Waited Outside School As Children Were Massacred
https://www.dailywire.com/news/27523/breaking-cnn-reports-four-broward-county-deputies-ben-shapiro



Obama To Teens Pushing Gun Control: “We’ve Been Waiting For You”….

and

Florida Deputy Who Stayed Outside School During Massacre Believes He ‘Did A Good Job,’ Union Of

[Jess from VA]

And more.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-bz-florida-school-shooting-scot-peterson-20180223-story.html

The FL Department of Children and Families said the deputy knew of former Stoneman Douglas student Nikolas Cruz, 19, the accused gunman.

Peterson had at least two interactions with him in recent years, the agency said.

Peterson refused to share any information with a DCF investigator regarding an incident involving Cruz but confirmed that staff from Henderson Behavioral Health in Fort Lauderdale visited Douglas High School, assessed Cruz and did not hospitalize him, according to an agency investigation initiated in September 2016.

In February of that year, the Broward Sheriff’s Office received a tip that Cruz said he planned to shoot up a school, the DCF announced Thursday. A deputy responded, and details were eventually forwarded to Peterson, the agency said.  

And he did what?

Guarding the door and the parking lot DO NOT CUT IT.  It wasn't the Viet Cong in there planning to shoot their way out, it was one guy with a gun, firing methodically, for 6 minutes.  What if it was 10, or 15 minutes?  How long does it take before you KNOW what's going in in there?  No one went in until swat arrived.  The guys out front may as well have just gone home for all the good they did.  At least two of them should have gone in covering each other immediately.

Going up against an AR with your pistol would be a challenge (maybe you don't know it's an AR, but it's LOUD, and one firearm shooting enough to think its a rifle).  You don't have to do a suicide charge.  He's herding the students ahead of him (or in a room), and not expecting anyone behind him.  You shoot him in the back if possible, or at least engage him (from cover if possible) so he stops shooting the kids. Yeah, you try to be careful and not shoot any kids yourself, but even if you did, it's better than 6 minutes of calculated mayhem.  And if there's no other way to stop him or he goes back to shooting kids, then you charge him and kill him.  And recall that in many of these cases, when confronted by armed police response, the guy shoots himself right away.

Now compare these deputies actions with those of the coach and others who put their bodies over other students.  Waiting and hoping for the cavalry.  If you are not willing to protect and serve, you should find another job.  Plenty of able bodied men are willing, and they want those jobs.

[hubcapsc]

I was reading the funnies this morning and thought back to the good old
days when this was ridiculous enough to be fodder for a comic strip...



That was just 1985...

-Mike

[Jess from VA]

Ordinarily, I hate this kind of thing.

But who would be surprised if the 17 sets of aggrieved parents and others joined in a single (class action style) lawsuit against the Broward County Sheriff's Dept (and the four officers who did nothing, individually) for gross malfeasance in the performance of their duties in the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High shooting (for say a reasonable 17 million)?

There would be some proof difficulties in that some were probably killed at the very beginning before any action might reasonably have been taken, but clearly most of the deaths happened later during the 6 minutes they all stood out front with their fingers up their ass (apparently on video).  

Of course, in the long run, assuming success in litigation or settlement, this becomes simply a large redistribution of wealth of Broward County and all it's taxpayers, but in this case, punishment for gross malfeasance directly resulting in multiple deaths seems entirely warranted.

And a much more reasonable action than lobbying for the demise of our second amendment.

We'll see what happens........

[baldo]

I've always felt that the monetary settlements should come out of the Officers' Pension Fund. Not the individual found at fault, but the General Fund.  And if it affected the police force as a whole, there might be some 'cleaning up' amongst the rank and file. The taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook for these sums.

[Ken aka Oil Burner]

Just like many of the mass shootings we've had over the last 10 years or so, this one doesn't add up. Multiple photos of the students hamming it up with reporters. Not just the school security guard, but other law enforcement waiting outside while it was happening. This video shows David Hogg (son of a retired FBI agent) interviewing another student while the shooter was present in the building, supposedly. They claim to be hiding, but they don't act scared. They talk freely, while anybody in their right mind in that situation would be quiet as a church mouse. No talk of scared to death, but of gun control. Last thing that makes it appear staged is that Hogg himself says that the time is 9:32, when the shooting timeline is after 2PM.     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yo5KKh5k3Q

This is another mind control exercise. I'm not saying nobody died. I'm sure they did. Just not in the way they're telling you it happened. The exercise is working. I'm seeing all over facebook where people are calling for the collection of weapons from the public. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

[f6john]

I’m still trying to wrap my mind around the idea of an armed adult staying outside while young kids are being killed inside. How is that possible? I’ve  never been remotely close to such a situation but I have to believe/pray I would have rushed in and do what had to be done. I’m also trying to imagine living with the knowledge I could have maybe saved many lives but did nothing.

The more I hear and learn about this situation I can only imagine how the parents must feel. They must be about to explode.

[Serk]

Well that explains things a bit better... It seems this sheriff has a history of hiring politically connected people as a priority over people who actually wanna serve and protect... (And when called out on it has the gall to compare himself to Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King and Gandhi)


What a disgusting, sad excuse for a sheriff this man is. (And for one dad of triplets to say that about another dad of triplets takes a LOT!)

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-sheriff-political-hires-20160827-story.html