What If Obama Wants a 3rd Term?

[Romeo]

Read Saul Alinsky's books on revolution. They pretty much explain exactly what has happened to our nation.

[RP#62]

US Constitution, Article 2, Section 2,
"He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; "

He can negotiate all he wants, he just can't make the deal without the consent of a super majority of the Senate, which is what he seems to have a problem with.  But what do I know.

-RP

[..]

And just what does that have to do with anything being discussed here? Deflect much?

And let me add....http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/giftbaskets.asp

Oh, that's right. Obama controls Snopes, too.

"Hard to pin down"......lol. Sounds like 'we know this is BS, but we're going to throw it out there and see what sticks. They'll believe anything we say'....

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/06/14/cost-obamas-trip-dwarfed-george-laura-bushs-year-africa-spending-spree.html


Your first post of substance in this thread in reply to a post off subject and yet it's others you accuse of deflection???


You so funny. 

Nice try, but if you dig a little deeper you'll see that I was replying to your friend CA's comment, #52. Like I said, thanks for playing.

If only you had the ability to read and then comprehend the written word.

Then maybe, just maybe, you would be able to understand how facile your reponse is.

[BF]

Thanks for the civil discourse, Willow.

I just have one question. Where in the hell is it coming from that pres Obama wants a third term? Did I miss something, or is this just another manufactured crisis?

Apparently you have reading comprehension issues....or you just didn't bother to read my first post in my thread.  

Or perhaps you just jumped in the middle to express you superior liberal view points to educate us evil racist white trash tea party extremist rethuglicans on our misguided view points.

If you can't bother to go back and read the first post and the title to the thread, it was a supposition by Rush Limbaugh as proposed by a caller to his radio show asking the question what if.  Not to mention that Democrats have proposed repealing the 22nd amendment roughly 20 times in about the last 20 years.  

It does make one wonder.....what if.  

What if our current president holds party politics and certain voting blocks in higher regard than the best interests of ALL Americans.....what if.  

Or is that too much for your pointy little liberal head to ponder?

[musclehead]

Ok... Ill take the bait...... I voted twice for the fellow and if you look at numbers, economy is at its best in MANY years..... unemployment is now at its lowest rate since 1978- I could go on but thats just couple of things..... He has also been the most successful in fulfilling his campaign and platform issues of any president since Regan......

SO lets look at the argument that The President (yes he is Mr Obama and I feel that the president should Always be respected.. even if you don't like what he's done.... I was brought up better and learned manners)  a Emperor wanna be, and shots on OUR constitution on a regular basis...

Where has it been proven, other than the media, pundits, lobbyists, and haters that Mr Obama has violated the Constitution??? please state the Court case or prosecutorial evidence..... Have he been impeached?

Has there been any legal action- other than harsh rhetoric, that he has done ANYTHING illegal??? Or anything that any other president has done in office? Including those that have been impeached? Is there any proof he is a closet Muslim?

Mr Obama has issued Less executive orders that any president in the last 20+ years... I believe he's at just under 200 where as Bush was 291 and Clinton ordered had 364 while in office.... Teddy Roosevelt ordered 1081!! FDR was 3522... But he did have a war and a severe depression...... Which by the way we avoided one recently through decisions made by and during this administration.....

As far as FOX (fake) News.... before they came around you never heard the office of the president so disrespected...... even when the president was a crook and had to leave office... Walter Cronkite never called the president names (traitor, wanna be King, OBummer, etc) this is a news service by owned by a man who got his start running tabloid trash publications..... who also has pending possibly legal actions against him.

People like Rush Limbaugh are media whores that will say anything to gain and keep an audience to make money...... If he was such a patriot, why did he not serve? Why does he not run for office?

What are his qualifications to drive political issues? Did you know that he dropped out/Flunked out of college?? That he has only basically has been a disc jockey and talk show host his entire working life... That he has been to rehab multiple times and has lied about his drug issues.... He originally turned himself in for prescription fraud...... but he had good lawyer and a ton of money and it was expunged from his record.... most of us would have gotten prosecuted and paid some penalty, I'll bet.

Basically he is getting Paid a crap ton of money to stir the pot and has been anointed by the media as an "Authority" who has done nothing but talk and has never acted...... The closest to any real political experience is the fact that his Dad was a judge.....

All I say is, do some research and you'll see that most respected Media institutions- New York Times, Washington Post, etc. don't repeat much of whats said on TV media.. you need to take multiple "unbiased" sources into account... funny thing is a lot of what these people say doesn't look so conservative....

Let me stop there and let the discussion continue......

Brad

was it legal for Obama to attack Libya under the war powers act? and to continue well beyond the 60-90 limits?

[fudgie]

Wont happen and i dont like Rush.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Wont happen and i dont like Rush.

Factual and to the point

[Willow]

Wont happen and i dont like Rush.

Factual and to the point

Got to check your dictionary, M'head.  Statements regarding what will or will not take place in the future by their nature cannot be factual.  They are, because they refer to the future, speculative.  One could certainly argue whether that speculation was informed or whether it was likely to become fact, but by the constraints of time itself, however certain the chances speculation cannot be fact.

I agree with half of what Fudgie said.  I don't believe it will happen.  I present that as relatively well informed speculation.  Come to think of it, I agree with all of what Fudgie said.  I also believe he doesn't like Rush.    (I do have some issue with Fudgie's  lack of use of apostrophes and upper case alphabetics.)  

[RDAbull]

Wont happen and i dont like Rush.

OK, fudgie and too the point.
I agree Brian.

[Wizzard]

Wont happen and i dont like Rush.

Ditto 

[Patrick]

What won't happen ?
Change to the 22nd ?
third term ?

But, I can understand not liking Rush. Many don't, but, many do and he makes a good living doing it.

[fudgie]

Wont happen and i dont like Rush.

Factual and to the point

(I do have some issue with Fudgie's  lack of use of apostrophes and upper case alphabetics.)  

lol im on a small tablet and its a pain to type on.

[fudgie]

What won't happen ?
Change to the 22nd ?
third term ?

But, I can understand not liking Rush. Many don't, but, many do and he makes a good living doing it.

no third term or a attempt to change the Constitution.

[Patrick]

What won't happen ?
Change to the 22nd ?
third term ?

But, I can understand not liking Rush. Many don't, but, many do and he makes a good living doing it.

no third term or a attempt to change the Constitution.

Well, just about every year some dumbass politician wastes our dollars trying to get it changed.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Wont happen and i dont like Rush.

Factual and to the point

Got to check your dictionary, M'head.  Statements regarding what will or will not take place in the future by their nature cannot be factual.  They are, because they refer to the future, speculative.  One could certainly argue whether that speculation was informed or whether it was likely to become fact, but by the constraints of time itself, however certain the chances speculation cannot be fact.

I agree with half of what Fudgie said.  I don't believe it will happen.  I present that as relatively well informed speculation.  Come to think of it, I agree with all of what Fudgie said.  I also believe he doesn't like Rush.    (I do have some issue with Fudgie's  lack of use of apostrophes and upper case alphabetics.)  

Maybe my factual statement was in relation to Fudgie not liking Rush

[DIGGER]

Since when did the Constitution stop him from doing anything he wanted?......what to heck.....he aint never been my president anyways.    he never even met the basic requirements.

[BF]

Since when did the Constitution stop him from doing anything he wanted?......what to heck.....he aint never been my president anyways.    he never even met the basic requirements.

Hell, I'd just like to know what's in his records that he has sealed.  What's he hiding?  If there's nothing in there, open them up for the record. 

[Patrick]

From where I sit, I think he has a lot he needs to hide. In my little opinion he has been nothing but a con artist his whole life. But, he is good at it, he conned a lot of people to get a big government subsidized house.

[Serk]

From where I sit, I think he has a lot he needs to hide. In my little opinion he has been nothing but a con artist his whole life. But, he is good at it, he conned a lot of people to get a big government subsidized house.

Afterburner with Bill Whittle: It's a Miracle!

[solo1]

I was wondering why this thread has gone into three pages.

I just sorta skipped through it. Gee, a What If on a third term for the POTUS.  Now i can see why the discourse.  That would be bad news ,that's for sure.

I'm a conservative of sorts. I'm a registered local Republican.  I said local as I will not associate myself with those spineless ones in Washington.

By my count, unless I've missed one, I've lived under 14 presidents including FDR.  I've had favorites, both parties, but especially Truman and Reagan.  Truman because he had balls and Reagan because he had the right vision, IMO.  As i recall all were, more or less. presidential material except one.  By that, i mean sufficient knowledge and experience to be president, never mind the politics.

The present POTUS is the exception.  He is especially long on BS, lies, his own agenda, and political acumen (within his own leftist group in his party).

He is especially short on honesty and faithfulness to our Republic, and surrounding himself with knowledgeable aids in the serious business of ruining (I mean running)  the country.

So, in complete dumbassness in trying to give my opinion about a hypothetical third term for this POTUS, i have just rendered my .02 .

BTW, I do not listen to Rush and I neither like or dislike him.

[BF]

From where I sit, I think he has a lot he needs to hide. In my little opinion he has been nothing but a con artist his whole life. But, he is good at it, he conned a lot of people to get a big government subsidized house.

Afterburner with Bill Whittle: It's a Miracle!

It's not a miracle so much that it's one huge scam. 

And liberals can't wait to lap it up.   

[baldo]

I'm still waiting for all you haters to be SPECIFIC as to what he's lied about. How big a scammer he is. How he has so much to hide. PLEASE.....TELL ME.....

I don't know why I even bother. I've heard all the non-answers before. Here they come......

[Serk]

I'm still waiting for all you haters to be SPECIFIC as to what he's lied about. How big a scammer he is. How he has so much to hide. PLEASE.....TELL ME.....

I don't know why I even bother. I've heard all the non-answers before. Here they come......

A quick googling of "Examples Obama Lies" turns this nicely sourced list up. I'll admit I haven't read the entirety of it, I guess I'll have to post the link to find out what's in it...

https://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/obama-252/

[Gavin_Sons]

I'm still waiting for all you haters to be SPECIFIC as to what he's lied about. How big a scammer he is. How he has so much to hide. PLEASE.....TELL ME.....

I don't know why I even bother. I've heard all the non-answers before. Here they come......

It wouldn't matter if anyone told you specifically what he has lied about or not, you would still be blind and not see it. You're exactly like us but on the other side. You could tell us what he has done right (very little) and we wouldn't see it because we think he has done so much wrong he could never do anything right to fix his wrongs. Unless maybe he resigned from office.

[Patrick]

I'm still waiting for all you haters to be SPECIFIC as to what he's lied about. How big a scammer he is. How he has so much to hide. PLEASE.....TELL ME.....

I don't know why I even bother. I've heard all the non-answers before. Here they come......

All you have to is take a little time [ it won't long] and look for yourself. You need to do it all by yourself, because you certainly wouldn't believe any of us or look at anything we provide.

[98valk]

I'm still waiting for all you haters to be SPECIFIC as to what he's lied about. How big a scammer he is. How he has so much to hide. PLEASE.....TELL ME.....

I don't know why I even bother. I've heard all the non-answers before. Here they come......

http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-complete-list-of-barack-obamas-scandals-misdeeds-crimes-and-blunders/

The Complete List of Barack Obama's Scandals, Misdeeds, Crimes and Blunders
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by John MacHaffie

• $6 trillion in new national debt under Obama...after he promised to decrease the deficit.

• Obamacare — A massive and incredibly convoluted bill which exponentially increases the federal government's control over our personal lives...which neither Obama nor a single Democrat even read before passing, and which will likely bankrupt the nation.

• In both the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections, the Obama campaign purposely disabled the credit card verification system for its Web site donations, allowing anyone from any foreign country to donate with no limit and no proof of identity; in both elections it was demonstrated that people overseas and people with obviously false identities were able to donate to Obama campaign, in direct violation of several laws. To this day it is not known what percentage of Obama's campaign funds are illegally obtained, since there is no documentation.

• Billions of taxpayer dollars gambled on "green" companies like Solyndra, NextEra, Ener1, Solar Trust and many others — all of which went bankrupt.

• An intentional refusal to enforce federal immigration laws.

• Unemployment at or above 8% for almost his entire term in office (which was actually closer to 15% actual unemployment).

• Operation Fast & Furious — a government-sponsored illegal gun-running scheme designed to purposely go awry so as to induce public outcry for gun control.

• Spent 20 years listening to a racist anti-American pastor (Rev. Jeremiah Wright), whom Obama described as a mentor. On March 18, 2008, Obama gave a speech in which he said "I could no more disown Jeremiah Wright than I could disown my own grandmother" and "[Wright's church, Trinity United] embodies the black community in its entirety." Now Obama tries to pretend that Jeremiah Wright doesn't exist, and that his extremist anti-white philosophy didn't influence Obama's worldview.

• Increased the percentage of Americans dependent on food stamps to unprecedented levels (now over 15% of the nation's population).

• Militarily intervened in Libya in 2011 without the Congressional approval required by the War Powers Act — technically an impeachable offense.

• Before he entered politics, Obama worked as a lawyer suing banks in landmark cases, forcing them to give home loans to unqualified minority borrowers — a practice now understood as one of the primary initial causes of the eventual housing bubble and market collapse.

• Handed out over 1,200 waivers to politically connected donors exempting them from the onerous requirements of Obamacare.

• Greatly expanding the number of unaccountable "czars," which essentially amounts to unilaterally adding new federal departments with no congressional oversight — leading to a true "bureaucracy" in the original sense (rule by unelected bureaucrats).

• Using taxpayer dollars to bail out the private pension funds of autoworkers' unions at GM & Chrysler.

• Illegally ending the welfare-to-work requirements passed by Congress.

• Doling out $800 billion in stimulus cash for "shovel-ready" jobs that didn't exist — the money just evaporated with no measurable economic benefit.

• Alienating and isolating Israel, our strongest ally in the Middle East.

• Apologizing to Islamists and terrorists for offending them.

• Under Obama's watch, for the first time in history America's credit rating was downgraded, due to his poor economic policies.

• Stopped American oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, allowing other nations with worse environmental records to drill instead — thereby managing to both weaken our economy and damage the environment simultaneously.

• Proposed in 2008 to intentionally bankrupt the coal industry — and now lies to voters and workers in coal-producing regions about his true intent.

• Pretends to be concerned about skyrocketing energy prices, when in fact he vowed to increase them on purpose (so as to make alternative energy schemes more competitive.)

• In a primary debate against Hillary Clinton in 2008, Obama said he would never force people to buy health insurance, since those without it couldn't afford to buy it. Less than two years later, he rammed through Obamacare, which does indeed force people to buy health insurance.

• During the 2008 campaign, Obama repeatedly promised that if he was elected "No family making less than $250,000 will see any form of tax increase." This promise was broken over and over again once he was elected.

• In 2008 Obama vowed if elected to increase security along the U.S.-Mexican border — and then in 2010 stopped construction of a "virtual fence" on the border and re-routed money earmarked for border security to other projects.

• Cash for Clunkers, which doled out taxpayer money to anyone who wanted to replace their old cars, but which mostly only ended up subsidizing the puchase of foreign-made cars by people who could have afforded them on their own anyway; meanwhile, the traded-in cars were all destroyed, creating a shortage and thereby increasing the cost of used cars, hurting the pocketbooks of poor people.

• Violated the U.S. Constitution by authorizing assassinations and drone strikes to kill American citizens abroad — without due process.

• Was caught on a "hot mike" promising the President of Russia that he would cave in to their demands for a weaker missile shield — after he was re-elected and no longer had to keep up the pretense that he sought to defend America.

• Appointed Van Jones, a former avowed communist who supported a "9/11 Truth" petition, to be "Green Jobs Czar."

• Appointed Anita Dunn, who said Chairman Mao was her "favorite philosopher," to be White House Communications Director.

• Appointed John Holdren, who perviously entertained the notion of forced mass sterilzation to stop overpopulation, to be Science Czar.

• Appointed Steven Chu, who openly advocated an artificial increase in gasoline prices to $10/gallon (and similar increases in other energy prices) to be Secretary of Energy.

• Appointed Kevin Jennings, who led a group that promoted X-rated "sex-positive" textbooks for 13-year-olds, instructed teenagers at a conference how to perform "fisting" (anal penetration by fists), who refused to report instances of statutory rape, and who expressed admiration for a member of NAMBLA, to be America's "Safe School's Czar."

• When states voted to enforce the federal immigration laws which the federal government refused to enforced, Obama sued to stop them.

• Blocked continued construction of the Keystone Pipeline, thereby intentionally reducing energy resources for the US and forcing Canada to sell more of its oil to China.

• Repeatedly changed his position on gay marriage over the years, depending on what was politically expedient at the moment and which intended audience he was addressing.

• Before he was president, Obama staunchly opposed raising the national debt limit — but once elected, he insisted that it be raised.

• When giving a 2009 speech in France that he must have assumed Americans would never hear, he described the United States as "arrogant" and "dismissive" (while also criticizing Europe elsewhere in the speech).

• When states tried to stop election fraud with voter ID laws, Obama sued to prevent them from doing so.

• Instructed Attorney General Eric Holder to stonewall any investigation into the voter intimidation case against the New Black Panthers.

• Promised in 2008 that once elected he would officially recognize the Armenian Genocide; but to this date he has still failed to do so, caving in to threats and pressure from Turkey.

• Vowed to end the influence of lobbyists in Washington, but under Obama's watch their influence has only increased.

• When he was first running for President, Obama promised, "I will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days." Needless to say, he has broken that promise with almost every bill he has signed since.

• Aided and abetted the "Arab Spring" which deposed existing secular governments across North Africa, leading to a regional power vacuum which was filled by Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, and other hardline Islamists.

• Refused to provide assistance or support the the earlier secular Iranian democracy uprising, allowing them to be crushed by the Islamic fundamentalist Iranian regime.

• In his first months in office, Obama bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia, the president of China, the Emperor of Japan, and President of Mexico, among others.

• Ordered NASA to make one of its top priorities not space exploration or scientific research but "Muslim outreach."

• Used Obamacare as a pretext to greatly increase the size and power of the IRS (which was given 16,000 new agents and additional mandates to penalize taxpayers for noncompliance).

• Used the IRS to harass conservative businesses.

• In the GM bailout, he illegally shortchanged investors who according to bankruptcy laws were first in line to be recompensed; instead, he gave their share to the unions.

• Shut down oil drilling in the US, but then turned around and lent $2 billion to Brazil to support their government-controlled oil-drilling effort — and then promised the US would become one of Brazil's biggest oil customers.

• Sued Boeing in an effort to control where businesses could locate, kowtow to the unions, and block the creation of 1,000 jobs in South Carolina, a right-to-work (i.e. no forced unionization) state.

• Adopted a longstanding Socialist political slogan, "Forward!", as his 2012 campaign motto.

• Sent insulting form letters to the familes of dead SEALs.

• Neither disavowed nor distanced himself from anti-Romney campaign ads which threatened or implied violence against Republicans.

• Shortly after the recent eruption of anti-American violence in North Africa, Obama went to Las Vegas to do his debate preparation in a hotel...with a romanticized North Africa theme.

• Said in an interview that the Muslim call to prayer was "one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset."

• Union boss and far-left activist Andy Stern has visitied Obama in the White House at least 53 times, at last count — greater access than any other private citizen.

• Hosted at the White House many Islamist members of groups associated with Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, etc.

• Sponsored performances by and attended fundraisers with radical rappers like Michael Franti and Common, both of whose lyrics have in some cases been anti-police, anti-white, and anti-America.

• Hired Timothy Geithner, who is documented as cheating on his own personal taxes, to be Secretary of the Treasury.

• Told Joe "the Plumber" Wurzelbacher that it was good to "spread the wealth around."

• Told small business owners nationwide in a 2012 speech that "you didn't build that" — implying that they should not claim credit for their own success, since taxpayers (i.e. themselves and other business owners) had funded the national infrastructure.

• Insulted the British people by rudely returning to them a bust of Churchill which previously had been a ceremonial gift on display at the White House; when later confronted on this inexplicable action, he lied about it.

• Canceled plans to complete a missile defense shield in Poland, a move which was highly praised by Russia — the very nation whose missile threat would have been neutralized if the shield had been completed.

• By loudly publicizing (for personal political gain) the identity of exact SEAL teams who had killed Osama bin Laden, Obama made them a target for reprisals by Islamists; a short time later 22 SEALS were shot down and killed in Afghanistan, their worst loss of life ever.

• Established an extra-Constitutional top secret "kill list" of people (including Americans) Obama claims the right to kill on sight, and then bragged about it publicly.

• Set up a special email account, "Flag@Whitehouse.gov," to which Americans were supposed to inform the government of anyone they heard spreading "disinformation" about Obama's health care overhaul. (This was the first of three different "spy on your friends and neighbors" programs.)

• "Attack Watch" was Obama's second Big Brother attempt, a Web site on which you would report "attacks" on Obama's proposals and ideology; it was quickly shut down due to outrage and mockery.

• Finally, Obama set up the "Truth Team" program which encouraged citizens to report to the government any friends or relatives they hear repeating "lies" about Obama. The Truth Team site still exists.

• Twisted the arms of defense contractors to not issue layoff notices in early November, so as to avoid causing bad news for Obama right before the election — even though federal law (the "WARN Act") requires such notices.

• After the attacks on American interests in North Africa on September 11, 2012, Obama gave a speech to the U.N. and declared "The future must not belong to those who slander The Prophet of Islam" — transferring the blame from the attackers onto the makers of a film trailer that supposedly "offended" the Islamists.

• Repeatedly snubbed and got into public tiffs with Benjamin Netanyahu, who as the leader of Israel is supposed to be Obama's closest colleague in international affairs.

• On May 19, 2011, Obama told Israel they must return to the 1967 borders as a pre-condition for continuing talks with the Palestinians — even though the status of the borders was the main issue the talks were supposed to address.

• Encouraged politically biased hiring practices in the Justice Department.

• Soon after taking office, Obama rescinded the "Mexico City Policy," which previously had banned NGOs which are supported by American taxpayer funds from using those funds to perform abortions in foreign countries.

• Attempted to force returning veterans to pay huge increases for their health coverage...as a way to generate more funding for his Obamacare provisions.

• In June of 2011, he anointed his own underage daughters as "senior staff members" so that their vacation to Africa would be paid for with taxpayer money.

• Interviews with high school classmates revealed that Obama was a heavy and frequent user of marijuana in his teenage years (not to mention his self-admitted cocaine use in college).

• Played over 100 rounds of golf during his first three years in office, meaning that he was on the links close to 10% of the days he has been president.

• Voted to allow post-birth abortions (i.e. facilitating the deaths of babies who survive late-term abortions) not just once but three times in a row as an Illinois state senator.

• The pastor whom Obama selected to give the national benediction at his 2009 inauguration recently declared that "all white people are going to Hell."

• Sided with Hugo Chavez and the Castro regime regarding the Honduran Constitutional Crisis of 2009, the first time ever that the U.S. formed a political alliance with socialist governments in Latin America.

• Obama Administration OKed the nomination of Chas Freeman to chair the National Intelligence Council (which coordinates intelligence reports from all government agencies), despite the fact that he was openly hostile to Israel and strongly favored Arabist goals. (He later withdrew under pressure.)

• Chinese pianist Lang Lang played an offensively anti-American song at a 2011 White House dinner where Obama hosted Chinese president Hu Jintao, to the delight and amazement of the communist Chinese visitors, while Obama just sat there and smiled (the song's Chinese lyrics describe Americans as "warmongering jackals").

• There was a great deal of (still unverified) suspicion that the company LightSquared received favorable treatment from the Obama administration for approval of its broadband technology which interfered with the GPS system; an Air Force general claimed he was pressured by the Obama administration to downplay his criticism of LightSquared's technology in sworn testimony.

• Obama's Department of Energy awarded $529 million to Fisker Automotive to build their Karma hybrid electric cars — even though they are manufactured in Finland, cost over $100,000 each, and tend to explode.

• When Inspector General Gerald Walpin discovered during a 2009 investigation that one of Obama's political allies (the mayor of Sacramento) was misusing government funds for personal gain, Obama unceremoniously fired Walpin — even though rooting out fraud was the job description of the Inspector General.

• More than once Obama made so-called "recess appointments" when the Senate was not actually in recess, which directly violates Constitutional rules about how appointments must be made; in each case it was his way of getting his political allies into certain key positions without them being vetted or approved by the Senate, as required.

• After Nidal Malik Hasan massacred 13 people at Fort Hood while shouting "Allahu Akbar" so as to become a martyr for Islam, the Obama administration refused to classify his action as "terrorism" and instead deemed it merely "workplace violence."

• Despite the fact that the Falkland Islands have been part of Great Britain since 1833 and that Great Britain is supposed to be our strongest ally, Obama essentially sided with Argentina in its new claim on the Falklands, not only by adopting the Argentine position that their status is open to negotiation, but even by (attempting to) refer to the islands by their Spanish name (Malvinas).

• Convened the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform (a.k.a. the Simpson-Bowles commission) in order to address a major economic crisis...and then summarily dismissed and ignored their recommendations.

• Criticized the Supreme Court's legal reasoning (about the Citizen's United decision) during a State of the Union address, which many considered a dangerous precedent as it appeared to place political pressure on the court, violating the Constitution's separation of powers; but his bullying seems to have later paid off, when the Supreme Court apparently altered its Obamacare decision so as to not ruffle any political feathers.

• On April 27, 2009, Obama's staff (possibly at his direction) ordered Air Force One to make an unnecessary very low flight over part of Manhattan and the Statue of Liberty, which many residents mistakenly assumed must be a second 9/11 attack in progress; turned out that it was just a stunt to get a photo op of Obama's plane next to the Statue of Liberty.

• Obama somehow managed to insert mentions of himself into the official biographies of earlier presidents on the White House Web site — even presidents from the 19th century. After public outcry, the narcissistic Obama mentions were quietly removed without comment.

• Intentionally misquotes the Declaration of Independence in speeches, often leaving out the words "by their Creator" in the famous passage "...are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights," which Obama instead has recited as "...are endowed with certain unalienable rights."

• In June of 2009, Obama's Solicitor General (and now Supreme Court Justice) Elena Kagan filed a legal brief to prevent the families of 9/11 victims from appealing their lawsuits against the Saudi royal family for financing the 9/11 attacks.

• The 2009 National Christmas Tree in the White House was decorated with ornaments depicting Chairman Mao, a drag queen, and a picture of Mount Rushmore that included Obama's own head next to George Washington's.

• Compelled Catholic and other religious organizations to provide health plans with free contraception, even though such requirements violate their rights of religious freedom and conscience.

• It was revealed only after Obama became president that during the 1990s he was a leading member of the "New Party," a socialist-aligned far-left radical group in Chicago.

• Lied about his close associations with former Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers; pretended the two barely knew each other, when multiple sources document they were friends and close colleagues for years.

• When Obama was inaugurated as President on January 20, 2009, he at first flubbed the oath of office, so he had to re-take it behind closed doors for his inauguration to be valid. He did so, but during this second, true inauguration in private, he purposely failed to place his hand on a Bible, as is traditional — the first president ever to not swear the oath of office on the Bible.

• Obama's own author bio in his literary agent's catalog and on their Web site stated for 17 consecutive years that he was born in Kenya; this claim remained intact despite other portions of the bio being altered and updated repeatedly. It was only in 2007 after he decided to run for the presidency that the "born in Kenya" claim was taken down. The original info must necessarily have come from Obama himself; some theorize he likely falsely claimed foreign birth in order to gain admission or scholarships in college, and never bothered to fix his lie.

• After winning the 2008 election but before being sworn in, Obama bombastically concocted the official-seeming "Office of the President-Elect" as if it was some kind of real government department; in fact, it was just a self-congratulatory title he made up to look important before he actually became president.

• Obama administration came up with the bizarre euphemism "man-caused disasters" to describe acts of terrorism — because he wants to downplay terrorism as a significant political issue.

• For three years in a row his official budget proposals to Congress received exactly zero votes — not even a single vote from Democrats.

• Relied on an Islamic fundamentalist militia group called "The Martyrs of the February the 17th Revolution Brigade" to provide security at the American mission in Benghazi — and they not only failed to prevent the attack but perhaps even joined in on it.

• During the debate over Obamacare in 2009, Obama bluntly stated that doctors like to perform amputations rather than practice preventive medicine for no other reason than that they make a greater profit from amputations. The American College of Surgeons demanded an apology, which never arrived.

• Since 2008 the Los Angeles Times has been in possession of a videotape showing Obama honoring and praising anti-Western anti-Israel academic Edward Said, but they have steadfastly refused to release it to this day, for no discernible reason other than their belief it would damage Obama's reputation.

• When the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe recently held a conference on human rights, Obama sent an American representative — Salam al-Marayati, a Truther who blamed Israel for the 9/11 attacks and who also praises Hezbollah and Hamas. To the nations of Europe, al-Marayati spoke for all Americans on the topic of human rights.

• Obama's Department of Homeland Security specifically warned that Americans who are "dedicated to a
single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration" are potential terrorists, as are libertarian-minded voters who "favor of state or local authority" over centralized power. These "rightwing extremists" (who hold political beliefs shared by a majority of Americans) are deemed a greater threat to the nation than actual revolutionaries or jihadists.

• While campaigning in 2008 Obama declared that it was "unpatriotic" that Bush had increased the national debt at a rate of half a trillion dollars per year; but under Obama the rate of national debt increase has accelerated to almost three times the Bush rate ($6 trillion in new debt in under four years) — yet Obama has never apologized nor declared himself unpatriotic.

• For decades, every president has attended a "daily intelligence briefing" which updates him on critical world events each morning. Obama has skipped 60% of his daily intelligence briefings, including the ones leading up to the attack in Benghazi.

Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-complete-list-of-barack-obamas-scandals-misdeeds-crimes-and-blunders/#4sv8BeKwzUAkGIMr.99

[98valk]

 22 Historical Firsts

    President Barack Obama's List of Historic Firsts
    • First President to Preside Over a Cut to the Credit Rating of the United States Government.
    • First President to Violate the War Powers Act.
    • First President to Orchestrate the Sale of Murder Weapons to Mexican Drug Cartels.
    • First President to be Held in Contempt of Court for Illegally Obstructing Oil Drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
    • First President to Defy a Federal Judge's Court Order to Cease Implementing the 'Health Care Reform' Law.
    • First President to Require All Americans to Purchase a Product From a Third Party (insurance)
    • First President to Spend a Trillion Dollars on 'Shovel-Ready' Jobs -- and Later Admit There Was No Such Thing as Shovel-Ready Jobs.
    • First President to Abrogate Bankruptcy Law to Turn Over Control of Companies to His Union Supporters.
    • First President to Bypass Congress and Implement the DREAM Act Through Executive Fiat
    • First President to "Order a Secret Amnesty Program that Stopped the deportations of Illegal Immigrants Across the U.S. , Including Those With Criminal Convictions"
    • First President to Demand a Company Hand Over $20 Billion to One of HisPolitical Appointees
    • First President to Terminate America 's Ability to Put a Man into Space.
    • First President to Encourage Racial Discrimination and Intimidation at Polling Places (at least if you are a Black Panther that is).
    • First President to Have a Law Signed By an 'Auto-pen' Without Being "Present."
    • First President to Arbitrarily Declare an Existing Law Unconstitutional and Refuse to Enforce It
    • First President to Threaten Insurance Companies if they Publicly Speak out on the Reasons for their Rate Increases
    • First President to Tell a Major Manufacturing Company In Which State They are Allowed to Locate a Factory
    • First President to File Lawsuits Against the States He Swore an Oath to Protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN, etc.)
    • First President to Withdraw an Existing Coal Permit That Had Been Properly Issued Years Ago
    • First President to Fire an Inspector General of Americorps for Catching one of His Friends in a Corruption Case.
    • First President to Propose an Executive Order Demanding Companies Disclose their Political Contributions to Bid on Government Contracts.
    • First President to Golf 73 Separate Times in His First Two-and-a-Half Years in Office.

    But, remember: he will not rest until all Americans have jobs, affordable homes, green-energy vehicles, and the environment is repaired, etc., etc., etc.
    What you meant to say is, "Apparently he will not rest until he has completely destroyed the United States of America !"

    more enjoyable reading.

    http://biggovernment.com/bschaeffer/...istory-lesson/

    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...ite-House.aspx

[baldo]

Exactly what I expected.....nothing but "I don't have time to tell you, look it up" BS.

Kudos to you, CA. At least you put a little effort into it. Unfortunately, it's from a blog, someone's opinion, who I would suspect walks about on your side of the river. I'm asking for hard FACTS. If he's committed all these crimes you claim, WHY isn't there ever anything charged?

Why do all these 'scandals' just seem to die on the vine? Big news for weeks on end, then .....crickets.

I get it. You don't like the guy. Fine. I couldn't stand Bush and couldn't wait for him to get out. Now THERE'S something you could sink your teeth into if you're looking for some wrongdoing.

It's funny. I see Obama able to travel pretty much wherever he wants on this planet.

Bush and Cheney...not so much.

C'mon. if you want to be taken seriously. FACTS ARE FACTS....Come up with something hard and fast and I'll listen. Until then, you're wasting everyones' time.

[Willow]

...  C'mon. if you want to be taken seriously. FACTS ARE FACTS....Come up with something hard and fast and I'll listen. Until then, you're wasting everyones' time.

baldo, people convinced of their political position share a common view.  We all believe that anyone who sees it differently than do we is obviously mentally flawed.  You and I both suffer from that shortcoming.

Truthfully you will claim nothing is FASCT that disagrees with your position.  Others will do the same.  You're right about one thing.  Trying to convince most folks they are politically flawed is just wasting one another's time.

That's primarily why I generally stay away from these "discussions".  FACTS.  LOL.   

[Patrick]

Exactly what I expected.....nothing but "I don't have time to tell you, look it up" BS.
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Talk about BS. You really do have a reading comprehension problem and offer a typical liberal response. Someone has to do the all work for you cuz you need everything handed to you just so you can discount it without looking at it. You haven't believed a thing we've told you, so, once again, look it up yourself. You may be surprised. Some of us are recovering liberals and were once where you are.

[Jess from VA]

I'm going to take a little different approach on this.  

I certainly acknowledge the widening and entrenched gap in left and right in my Country.  

I completely understand the Free Sh!t Army (FSA) of takers in this country who will vote left in perpetuity in their own self interest for free money and benefits and subsidies, which they correctly understand will only continue unabated (and increase) under left stewardship.  I do not believe for the most part the FSA really understands or even cares about the left's (or the right's) ideology or political theory for governance of our Country.  There is really nothing beyond self interest, and the well publicized and widely supported lie that the left looks out for minority's better than the right.

What I have a harder time understanding is the educated, enlightened left's support for our current administration insofar as lies, usurpation of power, corruption and scandal.  

If it had been discovered that a republican administration had been using the IRS to target, delay and frustrate left leaning tax free organizations (which were entirely lawful in creation and operation), I (as a conservative) would not be happy about it and just hope it would go away.  I would expect it to be fully investigated, made public, perpetrators punished or fired, and the IRS purged of any political influence peddling in ANY direction.

If a republican administration was found to have let political issues lead them to allow a number of Americans (diplomat, civilian soldiers) to be first under-protected, then attacked and murdered, while denying available reinforcements, then lie about it, then fire military leaders who spoke out about it, I would want it fully investigated, made public, and perpetrators punished or fired.

If a republican administration together with DOJ/BATFE were found to have come up with a plan to let hundreds or thousands of guns to go to Mexican cartels to be used in the murder of drug bums and also innocent civilians and my own border patrol, I would want it fully investigated, made public, and perpetrators punished or fired.

If a republican administration loaned millions and millions of dollars to companies committed to developing alternative energy sources (or anything else for that matter), and sidestepped ordinary rules in allocating such monies, and then all of these companies promptly went bankrupt without even getting close to fulfilling their promises, and all that money disappeared like smoke, I would want it fully investigated, made public, and perpetrators punished or fired.

If a republican administration just decided to bypass and marginalize congress, to unilaterally declare and direct that existing valid laws it did not like would no longer be enforced, that major changes in immigration policy and procedure would be decided from the white house, or directed banking regulators to threaten banks to stop loaning money to or carrying lines of credit for legitimate companies in businesses they did not personally like, I would not support those actions even if I happened to agree with them politically.

I could keep going here, but won't.  You get the idea.  I didn't even get to the chronic, consistent lying.

In short, we have a Constitutional Republic here that starts with a Constitution and body of federal law and regulations.  We have a lawful system in place to change or amend or revoke all or any of them, and we should abide by them.  We are a nation of laws, not of men or monarchs.

How come the enlightened, educated left (and their loving media) is seemingly happy and satisfied (and notably silent) about all of this?  Any means justify the ends?  

Are the most basic elements of morality, honor and truth different from a left or right perspective?  Really?

Edit: I am well aware that some conservatives and republican politicians are and have been less than honest and truthful and even downright sinful in the performance of their duties to the public as well.  No question about it.  But I do not recall my party (or people) marching in lockstep in support of patent abuse of power in the governance of my Country.  

[..]

Damn it Jess.

Someones head might explode if they read what you psted.

Of course, if they are able to comprehend what they read.

[..]

If a Republican government said

We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It

Pelosi: "We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It"

The willingly ignorant would froth at the mouth.

And then a cheap shot cause she's either dumb, on prescription drugs, illegal drugs or early dementia.

Another Pelosi Meltdown, Is She Mentally Competent? Is The Empress Naked?

[98valk]

Exactly what I expected.....nothing but "I don't have time to tell you, look it up" BS.

Kudos to you, CA. At least you put a little effort into it. Unfortunately, it's from a blog, someone's opinion, who I would suspect walks about on your side of the river. I'm asking for hard FACTS. If he's committed all these crimes you claim, WHY isn't there ever anything charged?

Why do all these 'scandals' just seem to die on the vine? Big news for weeks on end, then .....crickets.

I'm sorry u cannot comprehend facts and why nothing has been done against the UN Marxist plant. one day u might wake up, God's blessing its not to late for u.

so why don't u put in a little effort and prove otherwise? Oh I know why.

[..]

Exactly what I expected.....nothing but "I don't have time to tell you, look it up" BS.

Kudos to you, CA. At least you put a little effort into it. Unfortunately, it's from a blog, someone's opinion, who I would suspect walks about on your side of the river. I'm asking for hard FACTS. If he's committed all these crimes you claim, WHY isn't there ever anything charged?

Why do all these 'scandals' just seem to die on the vine? Big news for weeks on end, then .....crickets.

I get it. You don't like the guy. Fine. I couldn't stand Bush and couldn't wait for him to get out. Now THERE'S something you could sink your teeth into if you're looking for some wrongdoing.

It's funny. I see Obama able to travel pretty much wherever he wants on this planet.

Bush and Cheney...not so much.

C'mon. if you want to be taken seriously. FACTS ARE FACTS....Come up with something hard and fast and I'll listen. Until then, you're wasting everyones' time.

Yep it's sad that Bush and Cheney can't travel anywhere that Obama can.

I'd like you to give us a list of where Obama can go and they can't. Thanks.

AND

Which are the scandals that have died on the vine?

Do you have the balls to list all the dead scandals?

We'd like to see them all to refresh why some of us think he's a pretty crap president.

Looking forward to your list of vine dead scandals.

Please respond. If you don't it simply makes ALL your previous and future posts as worthless as a stale fart.

So come on, your choice. List them or be known henceforward as the stale fart poster.

I'm looking forward to you response.

[BF]

The phrase "there are none so blind as those who will not see" has never been more appropriate than in baldo's case.

[Patrick]

The phrase "there are none so blind as those who will not see" has never been more appropriate than in baldo's case.

Ya, but, but, but, he can't see that !      Even if he could he wouldn't take time to read it.   

[Pete]

It is not possible to reason with a liberal.
BECAUSE

TO BE A LIBERAL ONE MUST BE ABLE TO DENY REALITY.

Otherwise nothing works.

I am out of here.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I am out of hear.

There have been a few posts recently about hearing aids. You should check them out.

[Patrick]

I am out of hear.

There have been a few posts recently about hearing aids. You should check them out.

LOL !